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ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-28 19:17:06
May 28 2014 18:59 GMT
#21
On May 29 2014 03:55 Yamulo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 03:46 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
if EG couldn't field Old Man for TI4, they won't make it to top6.

EG will be atleast top 6

With Mason standing in? I haven't seen following EG's online victories, but I think no one would deny it's all about outstanding support play and Universe's plays which make team snowball right from laning phase.

The problem is that you don't have a back plan with that kind of setup.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
May 28 2014 19:27 GMT
#22
Mason has done a very good job standing in for Fear. There's no question he's a very good player and the team works together amazingly well. The question mark would be how Mason fares on LAN. You have no idea if the pressure will affect him or not.

Love what Mason has done with the team, most teams would be happy to get a player like him, but I'm looking forward to Fear coming back.
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
May 28 2014 19:46 GMT
#23
On May 29 2014 03:59 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 03:55 Yamulo wrote:
On May 29 2014 03:46 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
if EG couldn't field Old Man for TI4, they won't make it to top6.

EG will be atleast top 6

With Mason standing in? I haven't seen following EG's online victories, but I think no one would deny it's all about outstanding support play and Universe's plays which make team snowball right from laning phase.

The problem is that you don't have a back plan with that kind of setup.


You haven't watched many EG games lately if you think they rely on snowballing.

Quite the contrary, they usually rely on pure levels and good execution to defend until Arteezy gets up to speed or the Midases start turning into real items. And then picks like Wraith King get to be a 4th core if the game goes late enough.

Sure, they snowball against a lot of teams, but that's largely from skill gap and not game plan.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Noya
Profile Joined April 2013
Uruguay11223 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-28 19:55:18
May 28 2014 19:54 GMT
#24
Please Fear come back I miss you
Mason rules but hes no Old Man
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 28 2014 20:20 GMT
#25
thanks for making the thread OuchyDathurts! you did good dw, hope fear recovers soon. interested to see how EG does with him back
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Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
May 28 2014 23:22 GMT
#26
I think I've found his stream and ppds to be my favorites recently. Stream more fear!!!
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wairai
Profile Joined May 2012
Malaysia1000 Posts
May 28 2014 23:57 GMT
#27
I got another fear sven set from offering and sold back for steam wallet.
It was meant to be!
Fear pls no more injury.
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Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
May 29 2014 02:32 GMT
#28
Fear is pretty much the first legendary player in Dota. It's also quite funny because after all those years, he's still right up there with the top players in the West!

My personal favorite hero for him would be his Naix MYM days.
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
May 29 2014 07:05 GMT
#29
I must say his nyx is much more impressive to me than his sven
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Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
May 29 2014 11:25 GMT
#30
Not looking good guys.

widdox
Profile Joined August 2011
166 Posts
May 29 2014 11:42 GMT
#31
I'm disappointed that Fear isn't playing with the team yet. It makes me worry about team chemistry.
braincandy
Profile Joined February 2013
Philippines179 Posts
May 29 2014 13:07 GMT
#32
if he doesnt play in the upcoming Summit LAN, i doubt he will be playing at TI which will be a big disappointment for me. i waited
TArujo
Profile Joined September 2009
Portugal1687 Posts
May 29 2014 13:14 GMT
#33
meh looks like Fear won't be playing at TI maybe he will step down to a coaching role in TI?
Snorkle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1648 Posts
May 29 2014 15:06 GMT
#34
When fear first said that he had tennis elbow I messaged him links to radial and cubital tunnel syndrome because I have the cubital form and it sounded exactly like what he had. Im not sure how big a difference it makes since conservative treatment is basically the same - rest and stretching.

I dont know about tennis elbow but my doc told me a cortisone shot was an option for my cts if rest and stretching didnt help and then surgery after that. If Fear really wants to play TI his best option is probably to get a cortisone shot and then if it is necessary have surgery after the event.
widdox
Profile Joined August 2011
166 Posts
May 29 2014 17:42 GMT
#35
I don't think that fear backing out will be an option for Valve if EG wants to keep its direct invite. That is what has me concerned. I will cheer for EG no matter what, but I hate to see them lose their spot.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
May 29 2014 17:48 GMT
#36
On May 30 2014 02:42 widdox wrote:
I don't think that fear backing out will be an option for Valve if EG wants to keep its direct invite. That is what has me concerned. I will cheer for EG no matter what, but I hate to see them lose their spot.

Mason was playing for EG a month before invites were sent out, and their win percentages were just as good then.

They shouldn't have any worries about substituting Fear for Mason if it should come to that.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Churrass
Profile Joined October 2013
573 Posts
May 29 2014 17:54 GMT
#37
Why do people think of Valve as some extremist who says STICK WITH THE ROSTER OR DIE ? they are just protecting their players from things like , " wow we are invited now lets replace the weakest link and increase our chances ( lets say IG kicks LUO and bring ZSMJ) "

They wont have any problem with EG replacing a player who is injured and cant play, its a totally different situation
TArujo
Profile Joined September 2009
Portugal1687 Posts
May 29 2014 18:15 GMT
#38
Good news, Fear is streaming boys!
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44191 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-29 19:17:19
May 29 2014 19:05 GMT
#39
And fear not doing so well with tinker.

And he listens to "Party in the USA" - Miley Cyrus(when she was still you know not whatsheisnow)

this is a quote
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
May 29 2014 19:53 GMT
#40
On May 30 2014 02:42 widdox wrote:
I don't think that fear backing out will be an option for Valve if EG wants to keep its direct invite. That is what has me concerned. I will cheer for EG no matter what, but I hate to see them lose their spot.


EG MAY have talked with valve and arranged something since Fear was known to be injured where they can use Mason in case of emergency if Fear can't play. No one knows for sure but they're in a different circumstance than other teams since they're dealing with an injury not trying to stack their team and it's been ongoing for 2 months. Hopefully it doesn't come to that but we'll find out eventually I guess.

On May 30 2014 00:06 Snorkle wrote:
When fear first said that he had tennis elbow I messaged him links to radial and cubital tunnel syndrome because I have the cubital form and it sounded exactly like what he had. Im not sure how big a difference it makes since conservative treatment is basically the same - rest and stretching.

I dont know about tennis elbow but my doc told me a cortisone shot was an option for my cts if rest and stretching didnt help and then surgery after that. If Fear really wants to play TI his best option is probably to get a cortisone shot and then if it is necessary have surgery after the event.


He did get a cortisone shot about 3 weeks ago. He said he was feeling better but that was a few weeks back so not sure if the condition has improved, got worse, or stayed the same in that time.

I've had tennis elbow and talked with him about it (when he thought he had tennis elbow). There's not a whole lot you can do with it like you said. It's basically take some advil, rest arm, wear brace, there's not some pill you take to fix it or miracle cure. Mine went away after 2 months or so and I never stopped playing games because wtf else am I going to do? His has been more like 3 months so far which isn't uncommon. I'm sure he could power through it for TI, deal with pain as it comes up but it's up to him and the team if that's an option.

Being that I had tennis elbow and he has this Radial tunnel syndrome playing through pain might not even be a possibility. I would get random flare ups from moving my arm in certain ways, lifting something, opening a door knob, just turning your arm in some way your elbow didn't agree with and it felt like someone shot you in the elbow, shit hurt. His flares up from clicking too much over long stretches of time. If you can mitigate that by having breaks after a few games it might be fine but if you get into a best of X series and get into some long drawn out series it might not be doable. Hopefully things have gotten markedly better and he's on his way to being over this.
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