On July 11 2014 02:58 opterown wrote:
history is irrelevant and hardly a good predictor of results, especially when liquid isn't close to the same team, and how hold that was

Pretty true, Id say that is the least. Still good on liquid

AwfuL_

Netherlands6976 Posts

July 10 2014 20:53 GMT

#184

I know i know, i just like the observation that whatever team Hao and Mu have been in have always lost to whatever team TC has been in

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

July 10 2014 21:49 GMT

#185

It's somewhat notable that Newbee is the only one of the major Chinese teams that haven't been to a foreign LAN in the past few months. I feel like it's showing, given how lost Newbee looks drafting and playing against the major Western teams. VG, DK, and iG have all very recently played Western teams overseas and comparatively look much more well-adapted to how they're playing.

HighTimeDotA

Canada1412 Posts

July 10 2014 22:01 GMT

#186

you dont have to be at foreign lan to learn the playstyle of other teams. most western teams played 1-2 times in chinese lans they dont have a problem.

they probably just didnt study enough replays.

TRAP[yoo]

Hungary6026 Posts

July 10 2014 22:33 GMT

#187

you are definitely right about their drafting. xiao8 looks kinda lost :/

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

July 11 2014 02:24 GMT

#188

On the bright side, the worst is over--Newbee had 2 5-game days in the first 2 days (which seems kind of unfair when there are teams that got 2 4-game days, but whatever)--so they only have 5 matches in the last 2 days, one of which is vs. Arrow. Hopefully this means we can see a better Newbee when they've got less matches to worry about per day.

opterown

Australia54784 Posts

July 11 2014 02:25 GMT

#189

hopefully NAR, Empire, Arrow are relatively easy wins. then there's DK and Na`Vi, who they can beat, and they only play one of each of those each day.

man it's been a frustrating two days.

ForTehDarkseid

8139 Posts

July 11 2014 04:04 GMT

#190

Hope Newbee goes 4-0 and give DK needed 4th los therefore Newbee is top5 guaranteed.

opterown

Australia54784 Posts

July 11 2014 05:02 GMT

#191

apparently newbee got into some fight or something? TT

icystorage

Jollibee19350 Posts

July 11 2014 05:12 GMT

#192

"Its so fucking crazy being there live. apparently newbee got in a fight bad enough that valve personnel had to break it up (over heard a few staff talking at the courtesy desk)"

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2aeawq/the_international_2014_playoffs_post_day_3/ciu7dz6

gLhF.Revere

978 Posts

July 11 2014 05:19 GMT

#193

If the fight is true, then that's a disgrace.

Les Lau

Malaysia114 Posts

July 11 2014 05:40 GMT

#194

Valve is very unprofessional & unfair in preparing the group match

Obviously teams that need to play 10 matches, are in disadvantage over teams who only play 8.

HighTimeDotA

Canada1412 Posts

July 11 2014 05:52 GMT

#195

too much ego, these kids need to grow up. stop making the chinese look bad kkthx.

Les Lau

Malaysia114 Posts

July 11 2014 06:22 GMT

#196

On July 11 2014 14:40 Les Lau wrote:
Valve is very unprofessional & unfair in preparing the group match

Obviously teams that need to play 10 matches, are in disadvantage over teams who only play 8.

Kind of Sad for Team NB and Arrow Gaming...

opterown

Australia54784 Posts

July 11 2014 07:57 GMT

#197

On July 11 2014 14:52 HighTimeDotA wrote:
too much ego, these kids need to grow up. stop making the chinese look bad kkthx.

hey, so speaks the iG fan, whose team is much more known for infighting and egos rofl

calh

537 Posts

July 11 2014 08:57 GMT

#198

I don't even like Newbee, but this fighting is understandable if it is true. They are all well-established names representing a new brand, the pressure must be enormous especially with their success in China.

ahswtini

Northern Ireland22208 Posts

July 11 2014 09:27 GMT

#199

On July 11 2014 16:57 opterown wrote:

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hey, so speaks the iG fan, whose team is much more known for infighting and egos rofl

Hey at least iG don't have the worst jingoists in their team.

opterown

Australia54784 Posts

July 11 2014 10:04 GMT

#200

On July 11 2014 18:27 ahswtini wrote:

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Hey at least iG don't have the worst jingoists in their team.

eh it's just the most publicised, you might be surprised at the general attitude of most chinese teams, players and fans, this nationalism is prevalent in all of east/south-east asia. there's a lot of dirt on almost everyone, this is just the one that's the most well known. for example, DK is rumoured to be a front for a drug ring, which isn't exactly respectable. it's also a bit rich when the SEA fans who are the most offended by the controversy half a year ago are also part of very nationalistic countries and tendencies themselves.