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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-18 16:46:12
April 18 2015 16:41 GMT
#841
Alliance playing a really solid game right now vs Empire, not using any minus armor/Treant shenanigans.

Feel like the team still needs time to reach its full potential and expand on their strategic options. People shouldn't be so hasty to jump to conclusions.
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sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
April 18 2015 17:24 GMT
#842
well A just won , honestly that game could end at 35 min
6nnn
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
April 18 2015 17:58 GMT
#843
And now they just got annihilated... i don't know why they can't handle zeus, never :/... btw, i'm sorry for Niqua but he really doesn't look like a t1 player.
The Real Power~
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
April 18 2015 18:01 GMT
#844
A want to silent troll early but they forgot to take care of zeus

1-1
6nnn
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
April 18 2015 19:06 GMT
#845
It turns out @theAllianceGG are outof @d2cleague due to having the worst head to head match between the 3 days. Grats to PR/NiP who stay in

lol
The Real Power~
sweetkay
Profile Joined January 2015
206 Posts
April 19 2015 07:41 GMT
#846
What, No tiebreakers?!
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
April 19 2015 21:19 GMT
#847
On April 19 2015 16:41 sweetkay wrote:
What, No tiebreakers?!


No since alliance has worst head to head score among the tiebreaker teams
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
sweetkay
Profile Joined January 2015
206 Posts
April 20 2015 04:15 GMT
#848
Oh well. D2CL always was a crap tournament anyway.
GiveMeYourtTots
Profile Joined May 2014
990 Posts
April 20 2015 04:56 GMT
#849
On April 20 2015 13:15 sweetkay wrote:
Oh well. D2CL always was a crap tournament anyway.


Plus they're going to play Starladder, Dreamleague and ESL. Not sure how good it is to play too many tournaments.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-24 19:58:18
April 24 2015 19:57 GMT
#850
Yikes. I said in several posts before. Alliance ain't that good despite that short few weeks of good results. The reason being that their results were due more on their signature drafts, rather than them actually improving as a team fundamentally. In a sense their improvements were relatively short term because once teams figured out their drafts, they start playing like shit. You can see team being more prepared now with the sladar bans etc.

You contrast alliance with navi, and there's a difference. Navi has changed dynamically in terms of their playstyle and strategy since artstyle joined. You see more emphasis now in protecting Dendi, and they start showing their signature navi aggression again.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
April 24 2015 20:15 GMT
#851
They're both bad, that's it.
The Real Power~
sang
Profile Joined February 2011
United States251 Posts
April 24 2015 20:18 GMT
#852
Le-sigh what the hell is Alliance doing. Like seriously. Really weak drafts and play...I can't even break it down. Like why the hell did they pick slark 5th for loda.... They could have easily drafted troll+bat+lion+ES+1 in game 2. Game 1 was a complete meltdown. I don't know how alliance let iG blatantly roam their jungle after getting such an early lead. Ferrari went from bottom lane through mid into dire jungle and still got a kill with clock...how the hell does that happen.

Alliance win shit-ton of games using a farming carry + initiating carry and then for the past two weeks have completely abandoned what has worked for them. Their movements and rotations look completely out of whack. While iG moves around their jungle and ganking, Alliance is just off farming different parts of the map while constantly getting picked off.

Even if they are going to continue to pick against the style that has been proven time and time again to work for them, they need to play more as a team. Sitting back and farming while hoping to naturally get kills out of the lane is a terrible way to play. Ultimately I just don't understand the attempt to switch things up now. They have proven to be near unbeatable while drafting and playing to their strengths, don't change your draft and strategy now. You fucking go down playing what your best at.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
April 24 2015 21:21 GMT
#853
It's not a problem of draft, it's a problem of skill... they got outplayed freaking hard, let's face it, we're not at the same level of certain teams, not anymore.
The Real Power~
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
April 24 2015 21:27 GMT
#854
I think yes, the problem is hardly from a draft point of view, 7mad has been doing a decent job at it, pretty good addition to the team i might add. but they just dont "feel" them.

Its really hard to say, but they dont feel comfortable playing this kind of Dota, they need to find their footing and stick to their guns, all teams do that.
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
April 25 2015 02:32 GMT
#855
On April 25 2015 06:27 Faruko wrote:
I think yes, the problem is hardly from a draft point of view, 7mad has been doing a decent job at it, pretty good addition to the team i might add. but they just dont "feel" them.

Its really hard to say, but they dont feel comfortable playing this kind of Dota, they need to find their footing and stick to their guns, all teams do that.


Yea. Fundamentally they are lacking. They only had a good run of games then on the back of some decent strategies that were not countered, and not because they actually started being good again.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
April 25 2015 10:05 GMT
#856
And they did, and they won...

Who knew that finding a decent and working strat you are comfortable with would work !

Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Nycaloth
Profile Joined October 2010
147 Posts
April 25 2015 11:26 GMT
#857
Very nice games out of alliance this morning, i did not expect them to perform like this. A very welcome start to the weekend!
"I'm still confused, but on a higher level" ~Fermi
GiveMeYourtTots
Profile Joined May 2014
990 Posts
April 25 2015 11:28 GMT
#858
I don't understand why people were panicking yesterday, they lost vs a great team and only the second game was a stomp.
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
April 25 2015 12:14 GMT
#859
On April 25 2015 20:28 GiveMeYourtTots wrote:
I don't understand why people were panicking yesterday, they lost vs a great team and only the second game was a stomp.


Getting stomped like that always makes a team look like shit. But it happens everyone now and then. Some teams more than others. And in Alliance's case it happens more often because they are not completely comfortable together yet. But, unlike some ppl, I actually see them improve alot in most areas. Their hero pic is wider, and they strategies are wider. Skill i agree tho, they have kinda stagnated, but that's probably because they are focusing on team effort. And it's on that part you really stand out in progression.
The first game was a loss versus a better team. No shame there.
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
April 25 2015 13:48 GMT
#860
On April 25 2015 20:28 GiveMeYourtTots wrote:
I don't understand why people were panicking yesterday, they lost vs a great team and only the second game was a stomp.


That's also because secret let them play 2 drafts that alliance are so comfortable playing with. I'd like to see them win with a different style.
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