EPTWould be cool to have a Alliance v Navi game in the main event, how has it been since that ? TI3 i guess ? Since TI4 alliance didnt get out of groups and TI5 didnt qualify, and NaVi hasnt played any majors
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
Would be cool to have a Alliance v Navi game in the main event, how has it been since that ? TI3 i guess ? Since TI4 alliance didnt get out of groups and TI5 didnt qualify, and NaVi hasnt played any majors | ||
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
On April 27 2016 22:06 lookfirewood wrote: No not at all. If they'd made it to top 8 and only 8 invites I'd felt it was lucky, and even unfair. But with 12 invites I cant see any other team that could take their place. If valve wanted 12, A's invite is not lucky at all. Well alliance was lucky, because Valve invited 12 teams;) | ||
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Racket
3023 Posts
On April 27 2016 23:50 hunter_x wrote: Well alliance was lucky, because Valve invited 12 teams;) Just as NaVi | ||
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GinNtoniC
Sweden2945 Posts
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bluzi
4703 Posts
On April 28 2016 00:03 GinNtoniC wrote: To be honest I'm quite disappointed we got invited. I think the boys are still in the mindset of "we deserve to be invited" while in fact they're just not that good atm. Playing through a tough qualifier might be exactly what they need to wake up. But that's just my 2c. or BRAKE UP  , not going to the Major will set them back ages , it will make TI6 a dream most likely , I`m happy i can see them play in the major , otherwise i wouldve probably watch little live and mostly vod`s , now i will enjoy it much more. , so unlike you im actually HYPPPPPPEEEEDDDDD | ||
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Tesgah
Norway71 Posts
On April 27 2016 23:50 hunter_x wrote: Well alliance was lucky, because Valve invited 12 teams;) I can taste the salt. Sweet, liquid salt | ||
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Zea!
9589 Posts
Fuck the haters, we'll support our boys in Manila, no matter what, let's unite once more, all [A] fans around the world! Hope, we'll be able to get top 4 to lock our invite to TI6... our real dream and big target of the year. ALLIANCE FIGHTING!!! But first, let's have fun at Epicenter  | ||
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Meiffeltower
Sweden674 Posts
On April 28 2016 00:03 GinNtoniC wrote: To be honest I'm quite disappointed we got invited. I think the boys are still in the mindset of "we deserve to be invited" while in fact they're just not that good atm. Playing through a tough qualifier might be exactly what they need to wake up. But that's just my 2c. i kind of agree with you here.. i mean.. ofc im happy they got invited.. but they truly need to step up.. they did not look that good at starladder.. i think even someone said they didnt really practise for it and that makes me super worried.. | ||
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GinNtoniC
Sweden2945 Posts
On April 28 2016 05:56 Meiffeltower wrote: i kind of agree with you here.. i mean.. ofc im happy they got invited.. but they truly need to step up.. they did not look that good at starladder.. i think even someone said they didnt really practise for it and that makes me super worried.. Yep. Especially the "didnt really practise" part. Loda says he felt very moťivated to practise this week, but some of the other players' tweets (esp. Akke) have been more about "buhu we deserve an invite based on past merits" rather than "fuckit, lets practise and show who's boss". It's a quesion of attitude imo. The competition is stiff. Are they still hungry enough? But what the heck do I know... I guess we'll see. | ||
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bluzi
4703 Posts
On April 28 2016 07:20 GinNtoniC wrote: Yep. Especially the "didnt really practise" part. Loda says he felt very moťivated to practise this week, but some of the other players' tweets (esp. Akke) have been more about "buhu we deserve an invite based on past merits" rather than "fuckit, lets practise and show who's boss". It's a quesion of attitude imo. The competition is stiff. Are they still hungry enough? But what the heck do I know... I guess we'll see. I hated the fact we went through 6.86 without playing Invoker & Earth spirit , both heroes were so good and we didnt run them ,I also hate the fact we never run Ember spirit , They are not flexiable at all in the drafting in the mid lane , everyone talking about AB hero pool , but we already know what S4 is going to play before the game starts , and Mid has way more impact on the game , thats just how it is. I wouldnt think they practiced any new heroes , because we didnt see them in the last Lan , where is was more of the same , lets hope for Manila they will show us new heroes , it cant be that hard to practice them..... | ||
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
Oh do you? Well that was intended. I just dont like it, when teams get invited because they are popular. | ||
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lookfirewood
1212 Posts
On April 28 2016 17:32 hunter_x wrote: Oh do you? Well that was intended. I just dont like it, when teams get invited because they are popular. I think it was more about a hard time for Volvo to pick last 2 in a convincing manner, so a good way, perhaps doubtful to some, was to invite all of those in the hard to judge zone. More that then popularity. I like how they dealt with it, not cuz A was invited, but it was original and mostly fair. Ofc one can argue it takes away cred from those who were easy to judge, but that were never the problem.. Either way.. A in qualifiers, I wud have been satisfied, A invited makes me satisfied. It's all the same really... | ||
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
On April 29 2016 01:56 lookfirewood wrote: I think it was more about a hard time for Volvo to pick last 2 in a convincing manner, so a good way, perhaps doubtful to some, was to invite all of those in the hard to judge zone. More that then popularity. I like how they dealt with it, not cuz A was invited, but it was original and mostly fair. Ofc one can argue it takes away cred from those who were easy to judge, but that were never the problem.. Either way.. A in qualifiers, I wud have been satisfied, A invited makes me satisfied. It's all the same really... I get your point, but even so, i think 3-4 of those teams should not be invited. You always have discussions about invites, you cant make everyone happy. Getting a invite to the major's should be a reward for the best teams, who actually acchieved something the past few month. We really need a point System or something, not this volvo random invite System. 12 invites is just to much....i would also say this, if liquid was in doubt of getting an invite, that doesnt matter here. | ||
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Zea!
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lookfirewood
1212 Posts
On April 29 2016 02:20 hunter_x wrote: I get your point, but even so, i think 3-4 of those teams should not be invited. You always have discussions about invites, you cant make everyone happy. Getting a invite to the major's should be a reward for the best teams, who actually acchieved something the past few month. We really need a point System or something, not this volvo random invite System. 12 invites is just to much....i would also say this, if liquid was in doubt of getting an invite, that doesnt matter here. Yeah I agree. I'd rather have seen 4 invites and more qualifier slots. But I cant imagine Volvo didn't look at it that way as well, and decided it wasnt good enough. I cant say I feel volvo invites are random, I believe they are well thought through. Either way, in general it feels fair for all but the top teams, but they are invited as well. The importance for the invites is to get above the threshold, nothing else. Top teams are gonna end up with "lesser" teams wether they qualify or get invited. All in all it feels fair. | ||
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Yurie
11856 Posts
So if they went to 8 invites they would have to give 3 qualifier slots to China an EU. That would probably go over even worse than their current decision. Or do something like a play in for the slots between the regions which takes time since it can't really be done well online. | ||
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
On April 30 2016 19:47 Yurie wrote: The problem with increasing qualifier slots is that they would have EG and coL invites and then 2 more NA teams when there is just one good enough to warrant a slot. Then the same thing happens in SEA where they invite both good teams and have 0 teams that are good enough to deserve to get through the qualifiers. So if they went to 8 invites they would have to give 3 qualifier slots to China an EU. That would probably go over even worse than their current decision. Or do something like a play in for the slots between the regions which takes time since it can't really be done well online. I dont think thats a problem at all. Just give invites to the 4-8 best teams. The Rest has to get a slot through qualifiers. Whoever gets through, has proven themselves to be worthy. The stronger regions get more qualifier slots. It's actually quite simple. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On April 30 2016 19:47 Yurie wrote: The problem with increasing qualifier slots is that they would have EG and coL invites and then 2 more NA teams when there is just one good enough to warrant a slot. Then the same thing happens in SEA where they invite both good teams and have 0 teams that are good enough to deserve to get through the qualifiers. So if they went to 8 invites they would have to give 3 qualifier slots to China an EU. That would probably go over even worse than their current decision. Or do something like a play in for the slots between the regions which takes time since it can't really be done well online. No, Col was the 9th invite so if you go down to 8 invites they would not have gotten one. If you go down even further like people have suggested they obviously wouldn't have gotten one either. The teams who would have been shafted would have been: col, [A], navi, LGD (starting with LGD) It would have been EG for the only NA invite and then 2 qualifiers for NA with good chances for col and DC but that sounds perfectly fine to me. Or 2 spots for NA as well as everyone else + 2 wildcard spots (battle royale between all the 3rd place finishers in the regional quals) if they go down to 6. | ||
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copocom
Indonesia4 Posts
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razor10854
Indonesia8 Posts
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