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FetTerBender
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany1393 Posts
September 05 2014 11:57 GMT
#127821
How can people fuck up with ench that much? Ench is so strong :-o
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-05 12:01:50
September 05 2014 12:01 GMT
#127822
On September 05 2014 20:46 Targe wrote:
techies is going to be exactly the same as earth spirit and wisp that hes going to be useless in 99% of pubs
and this is going to hold true forever

IO is actually ridiculously strong in pubs provided that you have any remote idea of how to play the hero. The only thing you need is a carry who can farm even a little bit.

Max overcharge first and become the extra item your carry needs to really dish out the damage.

For best results I suggest LC.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-05 12:15:27
September 05 2014 12:13 GMT
#127823
WRONG THREAD
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
September 05 2014 12:16 GMT
#127824
oh boy i forgot im staying out of LR threads

this forums gone to shit so hard ^^^^
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
September 05 2014 12:18 GMT
#127825
On September 05 2014 21:01 LeLoup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 20:46 Targe wrote:
techies is going to be exactly the same as earth spirit and wisp that hes going to be useless in 99% of pubs
and this is going to hold true forever

IO is actually ridiculously strong in pubs provided that you have any remote idea of how to play the hero. The only thing you need is a carry who can farm even a little bit.

Max overcharge first and become the extra item your carry needs to really dish out the damage.

For best results I suggest LC.

i didnt mean the heroes are strong, i mean if people pick/random it theyre going to be terrible
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
September 05 2014 12:25 GMT
#127826
On September 05 2014 20:57 FetTerBender wrote:
How can people fuck up with ench that much? Ench is so strong :-o


ench needs a bunch of items to be relevant in the lategame (but greedy jungling midas -> orchid etc. often loses the game before you had any impact). The hero only works if your team actually pushes with you, unlike a lycan or furion ench can't really push much alone. You want to push early with ench, but often players are in the mindset that they are still in the "laning phase" and they don't want to gather and push with you. Also low MMR players have problems to control creeps.
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
September 05 2014 12:29 GMT
#127827
On September 05 2014 20:47 Acritter wrote:
Poor Alchemist. When will we see him buffed again?



Problem with alch is the people that play him. I see too many Alch carries. He doesn't work so well as carry right now, but he is still a good support or mid.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 05 2014 12:44 GMT
#127828
On September 05 2014 21:01 LeLoup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 20:46 Targe wrote:
techies is going to be exactly the same as earth spirit and wisp that hes going to be useless in 99% of pubs
and this is going to hold true forever

IO is actually ridiculously strong in pubs provided that you have any remote idea of how to play the hero. The only thing you need is a carry who can farm even a little bit.

Max overcharge first and become the extra item your carry needs to really dish out the damage.

For best results I suggest LC.

IO also requires the person you are working with to have the ability to quickly move the mini map and not be an idiot. This is a lot to ask of the average dota player.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
September 05 2014 12:49 GMT
#127829
On September 05 2014 21:44 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 21:01 LeLoup wrote:
On September 05 2014 20:46 Targe wrote:
techies is going to be exactly the same as earth spirit and wisp that hes going to be useless in 99% of pubs
and this is going to hold true forever

IO is actually ridiculously strong in pubs provided that you have any remote idea of how to play the hero. The only thing you need is a carry who can farm even a little bit.

Max overcharge first and become the extra item your carry needs to really dish out the damage.

For best results I suggest LC.

IO also requires the person you are working with to have the ability to quickly move the mini map and not be an idiot. This is a lot to ask of the average dota player.

Honestly the number of times that I relocate with IO per game is less than 3. Literally just overcharge and tether heals all day.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-05 13:02:05
September 05 2014 12:53 GMT
#127830
On September 05 2014 21:49 LeLoup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 21:44 Plansix wrote:
On September 05 2014 21:01 LeLoup wrote:
On September 05 2014 20:46 Targe wrote:
techies is going to be exactly the same as earth spirit and wisp that hes going to be useless in 99% of pubs
and this is going to hold true forever

IO is actually ridiculously strong in pubs provided that you have any remote idea of how to play the hero. The only thing you need is a carry who can farm even a little bit.

Max overcharge first and become the extra item your carry needs to really dish out the damage.

For best results I suggest LC.

IO also requires the person you are working with to have the ability to quickly move the mini map and not be an idiot. This is a lot to ask of the average dota player.

Honestly the number of times that I relocate with IO per game is less than 3. Literally just overcharge and tether heals all day.

Yeah, I like IO and it is a super cool hero, just working with some of my trench carry friends is just to annoying. But these are the same dolts who refuse to play support and then let an unused BKB sit in their inventory all game.

Also, Techies has been as ineffective as I expected. Only one scary moment with stasis trap to report at point. But techies is no match for a mildly farmed BB with a hood.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
September 05 2014 13:03 GMT
#127831
anyone knows if they fixed the all hero challenge? I won my meepo game on the first try yesterday, just for it to not count, and I'd rather be sure that it's fixed before trying again
Romanes eunt domus
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
September 05 2014 13:20 GMT
#127832
Alch is still one of my favorite mid heroes. People underestimate his damage output with level 3 stun and level 2 acid spray.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
September 05 2014 13:49 GMT
#127833
On September 05 2014 20:41 TMG26 wrote:
[image loading]

Guys, Techies is not the guy with less win rate, so stop flaming techies in your games.

Wat. How is Shadow Demon that far down.
There is no need to be mad.
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
September 05 2014 13:50 GMT
#127834
On September 05 2014 22:49 ykl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 20:41 TMG26 wrote:
[image loading]

Guys, Techies is not the guy with less win rate, so stop flaming techies in your games.

Wat. How is Shadow Demon that far down.


because he saves ur enemies and kills ur teammates with disruption
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
September 05 2014 13:51 GMT
#127835
On September 05 2014 22:49 ykl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 20:41 TMG26 wrote:
[image loading]

Guys, Techies is not the guy with less win rate, so stop flaming techies in your games.

Wat. How is Shadow Demon that far down.


He nerfed so hard, you can't even win anymore
Jokes aside, pub win rates mostly dominated by people don't know how to play that hero.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 05 2014 13:51 GMT
#127836
On September 05 2014 22:49 ykl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 20:41 TMG26 wrote:
[image loading]

Guys, Techies is not the guy with less win rate, so stop flaming techies in your games.

Wat. How is Shadow Demon that far down.

Shadow Demon is hard to play and difficult to understand. He is no every man hero like EarthShaker. Its why when I am captain and someone requests them, I give it to them. Because no one requests that hero unless they know how he works.

And then he is a tiny god.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
September 05 2014 13:57 GMT
#127837
I'm 4-2 with techies so far.
Fun fun fun
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
September 05 2014 13:59 GMT
#127838
On September 05 2014 22:51 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 22:49 ykl wrote:
On September 05 2014 20:41 TMG26 wrote:
[image loading]

Guys, Techies is not the guy with less win rate, so stop flaming techies in your games.

Wat. How is Shadow Demon that far down.

Shadow Demon is hard to play and difficult to understand. He is no every man hero like EarthShaker. Its why when I am captain and someone requests them, I give it to them. Because no one requests that hero unless they know how he works.

And then he is a tiny god.

One of my favorite supports, but I'm still not all that great with him. Getting soul catcher placement right is so hard sometimes...
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 05 2014 14:03 GMT
#127839
SD has some of the best set up in the game and I love having a good one on my team, but man that hero is hard. I can't play him yet and I am not willing to make my team suffer through my learning when I could just play ES and do work.

Plus ES super fun and a good ult can just make my day.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
September 05 2014 14:06 GMT
#127840
Honestly the two supports that I really would love to learn better right now are Kaolin and SD.

Specifically if I could get any semblance of how to play Kaolin I'd be fucking ecstatic.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
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