EPTOn August 27 2014 02:16 idonthinksobro wrote:
most likely there will be a test client patch before the real deal.
most likely there will be a test client patch before the real deal.
Doubt that. Its a huge patch itll go straight to the game
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Adrian_mx
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Doubt that. Its a huge patch itll go straight to the game | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 27 2014 02:26 Kishin2 wrote: You need Upheaval for your other 2 skills and ultimate to be most effective so maxing it first seems right. To get the max slow it takes 12/6/4/3 seconds, so maxing it first isn't the most efficient. Leaving it at level 3 should be best since 4 seconds is a good time to stop channeling and use other spells while 6 seconds is too long. I'd probably go 0/2/3 at level 5, another point in the DoT or bonds at 7, then max fatal bonds. The timing for everything just seems right with that. The thing is, the max slow isn't really relevant until enemies have sources of % MS. Off base MS, you reach minimum MS after 65-70% slow, so it's actually more like 10/5/4/3 to get the maximum effective slow until people have enough % MS for you to need the slow % beyond that. Upheaval also tends to be the most suspect of the 3 skills in lane given it's long CD and weaker effectiveness in laning situations that involve fewer heroes. | ||
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idonthinksobro
3138 Posts
On August 27 2014 02:30 Firebolt145 wrote: Put yourself in jD's position prior to today. Reasons to accept the casting job: - They are paid money to cast - TT and Na`Vi's new team are involved, both highly talked about teams right now - SeeMePlay's service probably won't be as good as Twitch, but it should be fine Reasons to decline the casting job: - Unknown streaming company could be so bad that it hurts jD's reputation What would you have chosen? others were smart enough to not play in this tournament. Can you name a single streamingservice that suddenly appeared that was at least working? I can't. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On August 27 2014 02:30 Firebolt145 wrote: Put yourself in jD's position prior to today. Reasons to accept the casting job: - They are paid money to cast - TT and Na`Vi's new team are involved, both highly talked about teams right now - SeeMePlay's service probably won't be as good as Twitch, but it should be fine Reasons to decline the casting job: - Unknown streaming company could be so bad that it hurts jD's reputation What would you have chosen? Not saying they shouldn't have accepted. The reward pretty clearly outweighs the risk. But they also shouldn't be shocked when people blame the production company. | ||
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Kishin2
United States7534 Posts
On August 27 2014 02:28 Sn0_Man wrote: u literally started out with "495 dmg nuke or heal is ass" lol It's not burst damage. It's 124/206/289/371 damage over 11 seconds. There's a huge difference between that deals 225 dps, a nuke, and a 30 dps DoT. You cast it with your shitty .5 cast point and they eat a tango. After level 6 you're probably not even going to use it much because you want to teamfight and farm aghs. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34492 Posts
On August 27 2014 02:34 LuckoftheIrish wrote: Not saying they shouldn't have accepted. The reward pretty clearly outweighs the risk. But they also shouldn't be shocked when people blame the production company. I'm not shocked people are blaming the production company, I'm just trying to explain to a few of those people why they shouldn't put ALL the blame on them. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
I'd say warlock needs a cast point buff but really every hero with a shitty cast point does. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 27 2014 02:32 idonthinksobro wrote: https://twitter.com/ppdDota/status/504308007262769154 others were smart enough to not play in this tournament. Can you name a single streamingservice that suddenly appeared that was at least working? I can't. Well then blame the streaming platform, not the guys who were hired to cast the match. Seriously, they are going to hire someone and then you could blame them instead, but they might not be as popular. Or would you rather JD just back out at the last minute because they had a bad feeling. Cause you know, EG and C9 didn't get a bunch of shit for doing that recently. Its damned if you do, damned if you don't. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 27 2014 02:37 Sn0_Man wrote: I mean I don't think u even max it etc but my statement wasn't inaccurate. I'd say warlock needs a cast point buff but really every hero with a shitty cast point does. I don't think he needs a cast point buff more than Icefrog needs to give all these new-fangled 0 cast point heroes real cast points. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
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2stra
Netherlands928 Posts
On August 27 2014 02:37 LuckoftheIrish wrote: Also there's gonna be a Pokemon fighting game in the Tekken engine made by Namco. | ||
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Kishin2
United States7534 Posts
On August 27 2014 02:31 TheYango wrote: The thing is, the max slow isn't really relevant until enemies have sources of % MS. Off base MS, you reach minimum MS after 65-70% slow, so it's actually more like 10/5/4/3 to get the maximum effective slow until people have enough % MS for you to need the slow % beyond that. Upheaval also tends to be the most suspect of the 3 skills in lane given it's long CD and weaker effectiveness in laning situations that involve fewer heroes. 65-70% slow is still really good. A hero needs 417 ms to get the max slow. I don't think it's important if you lose out on ~10% of slow if you're able to get so many more right clicks off. Also, people should be smarter about when to cast disables on targets that have upeaval on them. Optimally, you should stun them ~3 seconds after they get out of the AoE. On August 27 2014 02:38 TheYango wrote: It's still a lot of damage compared to other DoTs, lol. It's 11.3/18.7/26.3/33.7 dps. It's more damage than most other DoT but it's still not much. Other DoTs compensate for having a secondary effect like slow though while Warlock's DoT has the option of being a HoT. | ||
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idonthinksobro
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On August 27 2014 02:37 Plansix wrote: Well then blame the streaming platform, not the guys who were hired to cast the match. Seriously, they are going to hire someone and then you could blame them instead, but they might not be as popular. Or would you rather JD just back out at the last minute because they had a bad feeling. Cause you know, EG and C9 didn't get a bunch of shit for doing that recently. Its damned if you do, damned if you don't. They deserve all the hate they get for working with someone that can't provide a quality service. Just imagine the nfl hires some dude to film superbowl with his phone, everyone would complain and blame the nfl nobody would say oh yeah they couldn't know that this dude with his phone will not deliver hd quality. + Show Spoiler + it is the worst analogy i could come up with, sry. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 27 2014 02:50 idonthinksobro wrote: They deserve all the hate they get for working with someone that can't provide a quality service. Just imagine the nfl hires some dude to film superbowl with his phone, everyone would complain and blame the nfl nobody would say oh yeah they couldn't know that this dude with his phone will not deliver hd quality. + Show Spoiler + it is the worst analogy i could come up with, sry. Yeah, your analogy is kinda crap. Blaming companies for the stupid actions of their clients because "they should have known better" is just naive. People who give me shit for the stupid actions of my clients are my least favorite people. I have had people say "why does your firm represent them?" or "Can't you control them?" as if we somehow have special powers. You work for the people who pay you until it doesn't become worth it. You don't shoot down potential income because it might go all wrong. Of course they deserve some of the public ire for providing a poor broadcast and they shouldn't work with this service again. But if you are going to say they shouldn't have taken the deal in the first place, I'm gunna laugh and assume you have never had to worry about a bottom line. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On August 27 2014 02:37 LuckoftheIrish wrote: Also there's gonna be a Pokemon fighting game in the Tekken engine made by Namco. >Arcade only for now Hype balloon deflated | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bv-52YiCAAACQ6r.jpg) Apparently this is ACE's list of roster changes. Player X moves from team A to team B is the format. | ||
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andyrau
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On August 27 2014 02:50 idonthinksobro wrote: They deserve all the hate they get for working with someone that can't provide a quality service. Just imagine the nfl hires some dude to film superbowl with his phone, everyone would complain and blame the nfl nobody would say oh yeah they couldn't know that this dude with his phone will not deliver hd quality. + Show Spoiler + it is the worst analogy i could come up with, sry. lmao you are literally blaming john madden for agreeing to an analyst gig for the nfl rather than blaming the organizer for the poor camera work (in this case, stream network), you're blaming the analyst who was brought in to cast. I'm not against bitching when poor services is delivered, but at least use your common sense and bitch at the right people | ||
BluemoonSC
SoCal8910 Posts
ultimately he will have the VODs available on JoinDOTA's youtube without the stream's bullshit. i'd say there's a lot less to lose in terms of brand association for them than, for instance, EG and C9 who won't have control over the VODs like JD. | ||
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tehh4ck3r
Magrathea7048 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + livestreamer hlsvariant://fe1.cdn.vip.seemeplay.ru/live/BattleArena-EN_all/playlist.m3u8 360p | ||
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