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LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
March 30 2012 03:16 GMT
#6061
Well I'm 1-2 with NS and that's over 4 bars (8/0 end of first night time, can't do anything after that because *insert noob here* fed *insert a really hard carry here*)
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 30 2012 03:19 GMT
#6062
How do I get out of the High mmr bracket? I feel like my teammates are significantly worse now compared to when I first started in Low.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 04:12:10
March 30 2012 03:58 GMT
#6063
[image loading]
hahaha dota2 made front page reddit
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
March 30 2012 05:31 GMT
#6064
On March 30 2012 12:16 LAN-f34r wrote:
Well I'm 1-2 with NS and that's over 4 bars (8/0 end of first night time, can't do anything after that because *insert noob here* fed *insert a really hard carry here*)

Because when you're 8-0 at the end of the first night, it's also because the opponent team *insert noob here* fed *insert NS here*
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
March 30 2012 05:45 GMT
#6065
There is a difference between dieing repeatedly to your lane opponent without being ganked and dieing when when a DD/haste/3/fullhp/invis NSes comes out to own you as well as his 2 lane opponents.

Anyway, I was making a point about how the new hero performance thing, not trying to make a subtle brag or a QQ.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
March 30 2012 06:41 GMT
#6066
Col will play in the next joindota master tomorrow
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 30 2012 06:43 GMT
#6067
well its public match making: just like sc2 you will get cannon rushed once in a while. I got matched with an AM picker today (all AM) and he went aquila + transquil... Or right after that a female player who was lv6 while our entire team lv 12...

Its public match making and you just have to deal with it. The players who play carry roles will always have higher win % than support role but this means nothing once you transition into scrim. Shouldnt care about it too much and play for fun instead
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
March 30 2012 06:43 GMT
#6068
On March 30 2012 14:45 LAN-f34r wrote:
There is a difference between dieing repeatedly to your lane opponent without being ganked and dieing when when a DD/haste/3/fullhp/invis NSes comes out to own you as well as his 2 lane opponents.

Anyway, I was making a point about how the new hero performance thing, not trying to make a subtle brag or a QQ.

True =) Sorry, my answer wasn't meant in an aggressive way, usually when I wake up everything I post is negative for some reason.
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
March 30 2012 06:54 GMT
#6069
On March 30 2012 10:20 NB wrote:
anyone know how performance work? i am currently 6-6 with chen and its the highest out of all thing @_@... even though i have like 85% wr after 70 games with naix...

[image loading]


From what I know, how it tracks your progress is dependent on the hero. So for example, placing wards and getting assists is much more highly weighed than getting kills for Chen, while getting farm and kills for antimage is highly weighted.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 30 2012 07:41 GMT
#6070
On March 30 2012 15:54 Hoban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 10:20 NB wrote:
anyone know how performance work? i am currently 6-6 with chen and its the highest out of all thing @_@... even though i have like 85% wr after 70 games with naix...

[image loading]


From what I know, how it tracks your progress is dependent on the hero. So for example, placing wards and getting assists is much more highly weighed than getting kills for Chen, while getting farm and kills for antimage is highly weighted.

source?
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
March 30 2012 08:35 GMT
#6071
On March 30 2012 16:41 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 15:54 Hoban wrote:
On March 30 2012 10:20 NB wrote:
anyone know how performance work? i am currently 6-6 with chen and its the highest out of all thing @_@... even though i have like 85% wr after 70 games with naix...

[image loading]


From what I know, how it tracks your progress is dependent on the hero. So for example, placing wards and getting assists is much more highly weighed than getting kills for Chen, while getting farm and kills for antimage is highly weighted.

source?


Reddit it seems fairly logical though. My assumption is that they will somehow integrate these stats into match making so when ranked rolls around it pairs the higher ranked support players with the higher ranked carries, gankers, ect. Can't find the actual post anymore so I guess just take this as a rumor.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 08:38:57
March 30 2012 08:37 GMT
#6072
On March 30 2012 17:35 Hoban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 16:41 NB wrote:
On March 30 2012 15:54 Hoban wrote:
On March 30 2012 10:20 NB wrote:
anyone know how performance work? i am currently 6-6 with chen and its the highest out of all thing @_@... even though i have like 85% wr after 70 games with naix...

[image loading]


From what I know, how it tracks your progress is dependent on the hero. So for example, placing wards and getting assists is much more highly weighed than getting kills for Chen, while getting farm and kills for antimage is highly weighted.

source?


Reddit it seems fairly logical though. My assumption is that they will somehow integrate these stats into match making so when ranked rolls around it pairs the higher ranked support players with the higher ranked carries, gankers, ect. Can't find the actual post anymore so I guess just take this as a rumor.

That would be a terrible idea because those stats have absolutely nothing to do with your skill level. And not everyone plays the same role every game. "how many wards you lay down per minute" is a laughable stat.
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
March 30 2012 08:40 GMT
#6073
On March 30 2012 15:54 Hoban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 10:20 NB wrote:
anyone know how performance work? i am currently 6-6 with chen and its the highest out of all thing @_@... even though i have like 85% wr after 70 games with naix...

[image loading]


From what I know, how it tracks your progress is dependent on the hero. So for example, placing wards and getting assists is much more highly weighed than getting kills for Chen, while getting farm and kills for antimage is highly weighted.


Hmmm I don't really think thats true considering the ratings of some of my heroes.
Jieun <3
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
March 30 2012 08:42 GMT
#6074
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Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
March 30 2012 08:50 GMT
#6075
Yeah, the rating system for my heroes confuse me. My venomancer has three games, only one win and it is just below filling the fourth portion. Leshrac, I have 28/16 and it is just above the second portion.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
March 30 2012 08:51 GMT
#6076
On March 30 2012 17:42 Dattish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 17:40 PHILtheTANK wrote:
On March 30 2012 15:54 Hoban wrote:
On March 30 2012 10:20 NB wrote:
anyone know how performance work? i am currently 6-6 with chen and its the highest out of all thing @_@... even though i have like 85% wr after 70 games with naix...

[image loading]


From what I know, how it tracks your progress is dependent on the hero. So for example, placing wards and getting assists is much more highly weighed than getting kills for Chen, while getting farm and kills for antimage is highly weighted.


Hmmm I don't really think thats true considering the ratings of some of my heroes.

Wonder how that'd work on Furion, since he can pretty much do anything.


Haha well if the criteria for furion included warding and support items my furion woudn't be very highly rated....
Jieun <3
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
March 30 2012 09:30 GMT
#6077
On March 30 2012 17:51 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 17:42 Dattish wrote:
On March 30 2012 17:40 PHILtheTANK wrote:
On March 30 2012 15:54 Hoban wrote:
On March 30 2012 10:20 NB wrote:
anyone know how performance work? i am currently 6-6 with chen and its the highest out of all thing @_@... even though i have like 85% wr after 70 games with naix...

[image loading]


From what I know, how it tracks your progress is dependent on the hero. So for example, placing wards and getting assists is much more highly weighed than getting kills for Chen, while getting farm and kills for antimage is highly weighted.


Hmmm I don't really think thats true considering the ratings of some of my heroes.

Wonder how that'd work on Furion, since he can pretty much do anything.


Haha well if the criteria for furion included warding and support items my furion woudn't be very highly rated....


I almost solely play a support-type furion and generally feed and end with no farm. I still have over 4 bars.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
March 30 2012 10:03 GMT
#6078
On March 30 2012 15:54 Hoban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 10:20 NB wrote:
anyone know how performance work? i am currently 6-6 with chen and its the highest out of all thing @_@... even though i have like 85% wr after 70 games with naix...

[image loading]


From what I know, how it tracks your progress is dependent on the hero. So for example, placing wards and getting assists is much more highly weighed than getting kills for Chen, while getting farm and kills for antimage is highly weighted.


Based on my own bars, this seems logical. My Tidehunter is 4.5 bars and I always play him roaming and an assist bot. But it would be nice to get actual clarification on it. Some of my bars are huge with horrible stats and vice versa.
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
March 30 2012 10:14 GMT
#6079
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zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 10:43:57
March 30 2012 10:15 GMT
#6080
it's based on how well players of the same skill level play that particular hero. despite being 6-6 you play chen better than most of the players in your pool (chen isn't often seen in lower mms and people don't know how to play him well)

edit: clarification is in the patch notes

edit2: just mouse over "performance" in the heroes played tab and it'll explain what it represents
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