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Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 29 2012 20:16 GMT
#6021
On March 30 2012 05:13 Slardar wrote:
Na'Vi is ripping apart Gosu right about now.

I wonder what Bulba's thoughts are on the game.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 29 2012 20:29 GMT
#6022
man... im feeling sorry for noobs watching itsgosu stream... so many mislead information.

SUCH GOOD GAME AND NO ONE UNDERSTAND x(
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
March 29 2012 20:35 GMT
#6023
On March 30 2012 05:29 NB wrote:
man... im feeling sorry for noobs watching itsgosu stream... so many mislead information.

SUCH GOOD GAME AND NO ONE UNDERSTAND x(


Do feel free to post a few more accurate comments on how things are panning out!

As a noob I think I'm finally pretty sorted on the basics, but I definitely don't grasp most of the subtleties =)
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
March 29 2012 20:36 GMT
#6024
yeah, haha. russians are fucking stupid at this game.


[image loading]

i was qop btw

User was temp banned for this post.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 29 2012 20:36 GMT
#6025
lol necrobook
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
March 29 2012 20:36 GMT
#6026
On March 30 2012 03:36 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 03:14 PassiveAce wrote:
On March 30 2012 03:11 Qbek wrote:
On March 30 2012 03:07 Skullflower wrote:
On March 30 2012 01:42 Unleashing wrote:
On March 30 2012 01:41 snow2.0 wrote:
Is there any information about the announcer for Dota2?

The current voice is very quiet and unexciting. Sounds like she was forced to do it and didnt put one bit of fun into it.

There's a Juggernaut, Prophet and Dr. Kleiner announcer planned.
I for one, am looking forward to 2 of these.
Juggernaut and Kleiner.


I'm hoping for a GLaDOS announcer

You'll get it along with companion cube hex

TAAAKEE MYYYY MONNEYYYYYY

When you think about it, it's funny how Valve made like 2 oryginal titles(Half life and portal are the ones I remember) and everything else is mods adopted by them and they manage to merge it all, make SO MUCH MONEY of them and do so in the way nobody has anything against it(they have some haters, but they're one of the best companies in the industry)


Portal is not original to Valve. The gameplay concept came from a student project demo which Valve saw the potential of. The story is certainly set in the half life 2 universe but gameplay was the innovative part.

Incidentally in the demo you could shoot new portals through portals.

Uh, back on topic, just tried syllabear in a bot game and he's hilarious. The bots don't even know how to react to the bear so you just a-click with him and kill everything.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
March 29 2012 20:52 GMT
#6027
aL are going to have been playing/waiting for games for like 10 hours by the time this is finished xD
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 21:14:59
March 29 2012 21:01 GMT
#6028
On March 30 2012 05:35 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 05:29 NB wrote:
man... im feeling sorry for noobs watching itsgosu stream... so many mislead information.

SUCH GOOD GAME AND NO ONE UNDERSTAND x(


Do feel free to post a few more accurate comments on how things are panning out!

As a noob I think I'm finally pretty sorted on the basics, but I definitely don't grasp most of the subtleties =)

Start out after the fb to lycan , the intention of dire to camp SK VS at bot lane to shut down lycan (2 offensive wards in jungle) was read by CLG and followed up by the genius move: sending lycan to jungle by paijkat. Instead of lv1 and die 3 times, he got lv3 almost at the same time as mirana while SK and VS basicly got 0 farm 0 exp into mid game. The kill later on lycan was a small gamble by pajkat: enchan ES lesh was pushing top tower down so CLG was expecting dire supports to move top. What they didnt know however was the lack of money in dire support which result no money for TP so they couldnt tele top in time. As result, lycan died for a free tower.

Then the game started to transition into CLG push-carry focus while AL is playing gank-carry focus. This is why bleeky had to move away from bot lane, giving away his farming time for some uncertain kills. They luckily squeezed out a few kills on loda but anything less than 4 people swipe isnt enough. Loda free farm top, WR spam power shot against venom ward push mid so she got farm too, lycan alternative jungle/bot feeling good. All and all ES/enchan roaming between top mid did decent (this is why enchan has cheap urn instead of exp mek) while SK VS need to stay on top mid which results the lack of stun in bot lane to kill lycan.

AL understood that they need to get radiant mid tower but the combo between ES/wr + enchan creep basically tank the mid position for CLG which result an ultimate map control advantage for CLG. Remember at this point CLG got 3+ towers while AL got a single tower and 1 got denied. With map control, CLG forced a 3 men push on top and SK+QoP ulti missed which result only 2 death on CLG in trade for roshan.

The last team fight SK ulti targeted ES first which was a genius move but thats a stun that doesnt land on lycan/leshrac -> kill all the thing despite 0 BKB. Notice how the line up of CLG deal MUCH MORE dmg compare to AL if both team has 0 stun.

there were just so much small important detail on the game that the casters failed to point out. Also the dagon 2 on QoP game 3...
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
March 29 2012 21:03 GMT
#6029
Why are people still baning AM in the first banstage if the games tend to evolve around hard pushes where he can't contribute anyway and are over before he becomes the unstoppable killing mashine?
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
March 29 2012 21:05 GMT
#6030
On March 30 2012 06:03 CruelZeratul wrote:
Why are people still baning AM in the first banstage if the games tend to evolve around hard pushes where he can't contribute anyway and are over before he becomes the unstoppable killing mashine?


Look at the banlist

once sylla, panda, and ck make it to dota 2, there will be too many midgame pushing cores to make antimage viable in any but very specialized lineups
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
English
Profile Joined April 2010
United States475 Posts
March 29 2012 21:09 GMT
#6031
On March 30 2012 06:01 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 05:35 Asha` wrote:
On March 30 2012 05:29 NB wrote:
man... im feeling sorry for noobs watching itsgosu stream... so many mislead information.

SUCH GOOD GAME AND NO ONE UNDERSTAND x(


Do feel free to post a few more accurate comments on how things are panning out!

As a noob I think I'm finally pretty sorted on the basics, but I definitely don't grasp most of the subtleties =)

Start out after the fb to lycan which give lycan fb, the intention of dire to camp SK VS at bot land to shut down lycan (2 offensive wards in jungle) was read by CLG and followed up by the genius move sending lycan to jungle by paijkat. Instead of lv1 and die 3 times, he got lv3 almost at the same time as mirana while SK and VS basicly got 0 farm 0 exp into mid game. The kill later on lycan was a small gamble by pajkat: enchan ES lesh was pushing top tower down so CLG was expecting dire supports to move top. What they didnt know however was the lack of money in dire support bc they had none so they could tele top in time. As result, lycan died for a free tower.

Then the game start transition into CLG push-carry focus while AL is gank-carry focus. This is why bleeky had to move away from bot lane, giving away his farming time for some uncertain kills. The luckily squeezed out a few kills on loda but anything less than 4 people swipe isnt enough. Loda free farm top, WR spam power shot against venom ward push mid so she got farm too, lycan alternative jungle/bot feeling good. All and all ES/enchan roaming between top mid did decent (this is why enchan has cheap urn instead of exp mek) while SK VS need to stay on top mid which results the lack of stun in bot lane to kill lycan.

AL understood that they need to get radiant mid tower but the combo between ES/wr + enchan creep basically tank the mid position for CLG which result an ultimate map control advantage for CLG. Remember at this point CLG got 3+ towers while AL got a single tower and 1 got denied. With map control, CLG forced a 3 men push on top and SK+QoP ulti missed which result only 2 death on CLG in trade for roshan.

The last team fight SK ulti targeted ES first which was a genius move but thats a stun that doesnt land on lycan/leshrac -> kill all the thing despite 0 BKB. Notice how the line up of CLG deal MUCH MORE dmg compare to AL if both team has 0 stun.

there were just so much small important detail on the game that the casters failed to point out. Also the dagon 2 on QoP game 3...


You should try casting
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
March 29 2012 21:16 GMT
#6032
TT that was a very tired Ravage ><
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 29 2012 21:36 GMT
#6033
that was a dumb idea by CLG.
WriterXiao8~~
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-29 21:45:47
March 29 2012 21:38 GMT
#6034
aL on tear, they are performing better than NaVi in last 1.5 month.

congrats!
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 29 2012 21:40 GMT
#6035
just test sylla jungle again... 15mins rad is not impossible :-/ lv 12!
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
March 29 2012 21:41 GMT
#6036
When was the last game a BF AM went well any team? I feel like that hasn't worked for at least a month, but almost everyone still goes for it.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
March 29 2012 21:42 GMT
#6037
On March 30 2012 06:40 NB wrote:
just test sylla jungle again... 15mins rad is not impossible :-/ lv 12!



with bots?
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
March 29 2012 21:42 GMT
#6038
No pajkatt AM, no win =p

fuck yeah aL, nice to see them manage to actually win a finals after the consecutive JD masters runner ups.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 29 2012 21:45 GMT
#6039
On March 30 2012 06:42 Kznn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 06:40 NB wrote:
just test sylla jungle again... 15mins rad is not impossible :-/ lv 12!



with bots?

after rad bot will take like 1 min... if bot(s) before rad could be delayed til 18.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
March 29 2012 21:48 GMT
#6040
On March 30 2012 06:45 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 06:42 Kznn wrote:
On March 30 2012 06:40 NB wrote:
just test sylla jungle again... 15mins rad is not impossible :-/ lv 12!



with bots?

after rad bot will take like 1 min... if bot(s) before rad could be delayed til 18.


can you explain me your jungle rotation/skill build? you dont even try to gaink/go back to base? It must a hard style to pull it off without bots, you need quite a lot of wards and support to not get ganked
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