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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
March 25 2012 14:38 GMT
#5521
On March 25 2012 23:32 epoc wrote:
Well to me the blizzard dota sounds pretty cool. I mean there is zero point making an identical dota game with different hard carries and stuff. At least blizzard is trying different. I will at least try the game

Why call it dota? If it wasn't called dota we would have no problem, but they cal it dota even thou it's as casual as it gets and fairly lazy it seems(no attackspeed might as well be lazyness on their part ) and has less in common with dota than LoL does.
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
uNiGNoRe
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Germany1115 Posts
March 25 2012 14:43 GMT
#5522
On March 25 2012 12:47 Serpico wrote:


we should be happy blizzard didnt get to make dota 2.

If I had to create the worst possible Dota clone I can imagine it would look a lot like this. They should not be allowed to call it Dota.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 15:09:58
March 25 2012 15:05 GMT
#5523
Has anybody here ever played the game Demigod? it's part of the dota genre if you look at it from the most basic level: creeps from 2 bases fight each other in the middle of a map and heroes must push through towers to destroy the enemy's main building.

but beyond that, it's a completely different game. no lasthits, the ability to upgrade your creeps, capture points, etc...

that's how i imagine blizzard dota will be. Don't get me wrong, Demigod was a fun game, just A) not "dota" and B) not competitive. and according to that video Blizzard's design philosophy has neither of those goals in mind.

*edit: is there contention over who owns the acronym "dota"? I know guinsoo has "Defense of the Ancients," which is why it's dota 2 not defense of the ancients 2, but blizzard doesn't seem to be the type to share names in any way (remember what happened to World of Starcraft?)
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
March 25 2012 15:47 GMT
#5524
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 16:40:06
March 25 2012 15:58 GMT
#5525
On March 26 2012 00:47 Dattish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 00:05 Varpulis wrote:
*edit: is there contention over who owns the acronym "dota"? I know guinsoo has "Defense of the Ancients," which is why it's dota 2 not defense of the ancients 2, but blizzard doesn't seem to be the type to share names in any way (remember what happened to World of Starcraft?)

Blizzard owns DotA-Allstars and Defense of the Ancients, which Guinsoo gave them. Valve is trying to get Dota 2.

Is this the source of the legal crap between Valve and Blizzard?

Edit: thanks for the response, T_T that sucks
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
March 25 2012 16:03 GMT
#5526
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 19:34:12
March 25 2012 19:23 GMT
#5527
mouz practicing sing_sing on batrider... incoming new EU meta

rumor: fatal bond + midas = instant kill?
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 25 2012 19:36 GMT
#5528
On March 26 2012 04:23 NB wrote:
mouz practicing sing_sing on batrider... incoming new EU meta

EU damn slow to come back to batrider (they were playing him before) after his damage bugs were fixed. weaker than in dota1 sure but still damn good against a lot of lineups. nice to know mouz trying out more dota1 heroes, because they couldve beaten EG but werent too experienced with morphling use
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
March 25 2012 19:42 GMT
#5529
On March 26 2012 04:23 NB wrote:
mouz practicing sing_sing on batrider... incoming new EU meta

rumor: fatal bond + midas = instant kill?

Fatal bonds has a damage cap in dota 1
and i assume that same applies for dota2, other wise thing like purge/axe ulti/aa ulti would also be insta teamwipe
Roflhaxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1244 Posts
March 25 2012 19:46 GMT
#5530
On March 25 2012 23:43 uNiGNoRe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 12:47 Serpico wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWymJSal9IM#t=1316s

we should be happy blizzard didnt get to make dota 2.

If I had to create the worst possible Dota clone I can imagine it would look a lot like this. They should not be allowed to call it Dota.

Yeah, and the asian guy talks like it is based off of LoL not DotA, he mentions after killing 'roshan' that instead of getting a BUFF you get a guy pushing mid lane... :|
A game where the first thing you do is scout with a “worker”. Does that make any sense? Who scouts with a “worker”? That’s like sending out the janitor to perform recon, what general would do that? Retarded game.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
March 25 2012 19:47 GMT
#5531
Nearly 40,000 people online O.O. This Beta is really starting to get big.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 25 2012 19:55 GMT
#5532
On March 26 2012 04:47 Benjef wrote:
Nearly 40,000 people online O.O. This Beta is really starting to get big.

there was a huge wave of invites recently. valve probably upgraded their server capacity
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 20:07:07
March 25 2012 19:59 GMT
#5533
On March 25 2012 12:47 Serpico wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWymJSal9IM#t=1316s

we should be happy blizzard didnt get to make dota 2.

holy shit this is soooooo bad

armor and lasthitting was too complicated so we removed it wtf !?!?
qyk05328
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany635 Posts
March 25 2012 20:09 GMT
#5534
On March 25 2012 14:38 Varpulis wrote:
"so we asked ourselves, how do you play dota?

well, its really easy. first thing you do is open the wiki..."

XD

also what is blizzard's fixation with mounts?

edit: holy shit they got rid of armor and attack speed because they don't like math. wtf...

Math is hard. Let's go shopping in the Diablo III store.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 25 2012 20:13 GMT
#5535
On March 26 2012 04:55 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 04:47 Benjef wrote:
Nearly 40,000 people online O.O. This Beta is really starting to get big.

there was a huge wave of invites recently. valve probably upgraded their server capacity

i can confirm that, talk face to face with a guy from joindota last night and he is holding 30 keys HIMSELF...
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
March 25 2012 20:23 GMT
#5536
So I'm starting to get into that phase where I can effectively farm all game and play hard carries and holy fucking shit is this fun. It's a lot more responsibility than I'm used to, but just played a Void and OD game in SD and it's like...early on I get stomped on, but once I get going it's just so much fun. I still love support, but god damn what have I been missing.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 25 2012 21:18 GMT
#5537
On March 26 2012 05:23 Candadar wrote:
So I'm starting to get into that phase where I can effectively farm all game and play hard carries and holy fucking shit is this fun. It's a lot more responsibility than I'm used to, but just played a Void and OD game in SD and it's like...early on I get stomped on, but once I get going it's just so much fun. I still love support, but god damn what have I been missing.

you gona get bored once in a while......... currently 35-16 with naix jungle afk and i am not that proud of it.....
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
March 25 2012 21:42 GMT
#5538
On March 26 2012 06:18 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 05:23 Candadar wrote:
So I'm starting to get into that phase where I can effectively farm all game and play hard carries and holy fucking shit is this fun. It's a lot more responsibility than I'm used to, but just played a Void and OD game in SD and it's like...early on I get stomped on, but once I get going it's just so much fun. I still love support, but god damn what have I been missing.

you gona get bored once in a while......... currently 35-16 with naix jungle afk and i am not that proud of it.....


Oh yes of course. It's rather dull most of the time, but I like the new challenge. I'll probably in the end just gravitate back to my support loving, but for now, I'll 1v5 teams and get it out of my system
mdma-_-
Profile Joined October 2010
Nauru1213 Posts
March 25 2012 22:40 GMT
#5539
On March 25 2012 12:47 Serpico wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWymJSal9IM#t=1316s

we should be happy blizzard didnt get to make dota 2.

Its hard to believe that blizzard designed a dota game that is even easier than LoL
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
March 25 2012 23:13 GMT
#5540
On March 26 2012 07:40 mdma-_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 12:47 Serpico wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWymJSal9IM#t=1316s

we should be happy blizzard didnt get to make dota 2.

Its hard to believe that blizzard designed a dota game that is even easier than LoL


I think something not many people are bringing up is:

"We don't want people to get mad at each other. So we've removed kills, deaths, assists, and all that and just replaced it with takedowns. . .Everyone gets equal payment for taking someone down"

:|
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