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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
March 11 2012 18:44 GMT
#4141
On March 12 2012 03:43 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 03:41 konadora wrote:
On March 12 2012 03:36 TheYango wrote:
On March 12 2012 03:34 konadora wrote:
On March 12 2012 03:33 TheYango wrote:
On March 12 2012 03:31 konadora wrote:
never played batrider (i realise i never play a lot of the "new heroes", invoker huskar all only played this year in dota 2, never in dota 1), but how good is he?

Batrider and Lycanthrope are far and away the most banned heroes in Chinese competitive DotA 1.

hmm but why? i never played batrider myself so idk how he works

He's one of the strongest solo laners in the game, one of the scariest gankers in the game, and one of the most reliable initiators in the game.

hmm then why isn't he being picked more often? teams opting for more push-heavy heroes? that's the feel i've been getting from all the lineups i've been seeing, the typical bm/veno/furion/chen/enchant etc etc. only saw him being used once in that defense compilation hype video lol


On March 12 2012 03:41 Kipsate wrote:
On March 12 2012 03:38 konadora wrote:
On March 12 2012 03:36 red_ wrote:
On March 12 2012 03:34 konadora wrote:
On March 12 2012 03:33 TheYango wrote:
On March 12 2012 03:31 konadora wrote:
never played batrider (i realise i never play a lot of the "new heroes", invoker huskar all only played this year in dota 2, never in dota 1), but how good is he?

Batrider and Lycanthrope are far and away the most banned heroes in Chinese competitive DotA 1.

hmm but why? i never played batrider myself so idk how he works


Napalm OP.

does napalm itself do damage? also, does it amplify dmg from other heroes/units? man i so dont know this hero lol

amplifies damage from all instances higher then 36(dont quote me on this) damage, that includes heroes, creeps, dots everything.


lol that is pretty gay


iirc there are a couple of differences between DotA 1 and Dota 2's BR, such as:

Napalm stack count is visible in fog of war, and is treated as a 'flying unit' by WC3 engine in DotA 1

the flying unit doesn't really matter too much though, doesn't it? not like there's techies in dota 2 yet
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34510 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 18:45:18
March 11 2012 18:44 GMT
#4142
Wat. EG completely winning this.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
March 11 2012 18:45 GMT
#4143
tide with 2k gold

wat
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
March 11 2012 18:46 GMT
#4144
oh DAT HOOK

did that increase the hook's aoe point or something? iirc the last time i played pudge in dota 2, the hook's point aoe wasn't so big o_O
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 11 2012 18:47 GMT
#4145
I believe the hook in Dota 2 is larger then in Dota 1.
WriterXiao8~~
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
March 11 2012 18:49 GMT
#4146
On March 12 2012 03:47 Kipsate wrote:
I believe the hook in Dota 2 is larger then in Dota 1.

not the hook size, but the aoe at the end of the hook
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34510 Posts
March 11 2012 18:49 GMT
#4147
I don't think so, would go against the entire 'Dota 1 = Dota 2' concept.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
March 11 2012 18:50 GMT
#4148
oh okay, maybe it's just the graphics change that makes me think so :s
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
March 11 2012 18:50 GMT
#4149
The hook is rather odd in dota2, in dota1 it didn't have that strange thing on the top It feels strange to me most of the time, like the aoe doesn't really match the model.
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
March 11 2012 18:52 GMT
#4150
haha finally a hook hits after 3 attempts :p third time's a charm!
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 18:59:46
March 11 2012 18:52 GMT
#4151
On March 12 2012 03:41 konadora wrote:
hmm then why isn't he being picked more often? teams opting for more push-heavy heroes? that's the feel i've been getting from all the lineups i've been seeing, the typical bm/veno/furion/chen/enchant etc etc. only saw him being used once in that defense compilation hype video lol

Because there were like a million bugs with him that didn't get fixed until a couple of the recent patches. Check the patch notes for details.

On March 12 2012 03:44 konadora wrote:
the flying unit doesn't really matter too much though, doesn't it? not like there's techies in dota 2 yet

It only matters in one case right now and that's CM's Frostbite. Since Frostbite is coded based on Entangling Roots, it can't target flying units in DotA 1.
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Corr
Profile Joined January 2009
Denmark796 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 18:54:42
March 11 2012 18:54 GMT
#4152
next.KZ know they're there but venge goes to howl roshan so EG can bring him down before next.kz's ready for the fight, wp?
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
March 11 2012 18:55 GMT
#4153
EG vs Next.kz, coL vs Mouz, Dendi streaming a scrim..

if I understood ukrainian/russian this would be perfect
ffxiv enjoyer
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 19:02:52
March 11 2012 18:58 GMT
#4154
mm EG definitely overextended


On March 12 2012 03:52 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 03:41 konadora wrote:
hmm then why isn't he being picked more often? teams opting for more push-heavy heroes? that's the feel i've been getting from all the lineups i've been seeing, the typical bm/veno/furion/chen/enchant etc etc. only saw him being used once in that defense compilation hype video lol

Because there were like a million bugs with him that didn't get fixed until a couple of the recent patches. Check the patch notes for details.

holy that's a lot of bugs lol

On March 12 2012 03:52 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 03:44 konadora wrote:
the flying unit doesn't really matter too much though, doesn't it? not like there's techies in dota 2 yet

It only matters in one case right now and that's CM's Frostbite. Since Frostbite is coded based on Entangling Roots, it can't target flying units in DotA 1.

so in dota 2 it doesn't matter at all whether it's flying or not yet? u think if techies gets introduced, land mines wont be triggered by flying heroes? :p
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 19:05:09
March 11 2012 19:03 GMT
#4155
3 hand of midas in this game :p

wow a pudge just vaporized in 0.5 seconds lol
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34510 Posts
March 11 2012 19:05 GMT
#4156
Next completely vaporised there. Horrible game.
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 11 2012 19:05 GMT
#4157
Im pretty sure OD was frostbiteable in Dota 1 but didn't trigger land mines did he?
WriterXiao8~~
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
March 11 2012 19:07 GMT
#4158
suicide into fountain into buyback yeah!
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
March 11 2012 19:07 GMT
#4159
On March 12 2012 04:05 Kipsate wrote:
Im pretty sure OD was frostbiteable in Dota 1 but didn't trigger land mines did he?

now that you mention it, i remember viper being frostbite-able too
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 11 2012 19:09 GMT
#4160
On March 12 2012 04:05 Kipsate wrote:
Im pretty sure OD was frostbiteable in Dota 1 but didn't trigger land mines did he?

Mechanically they were not flying heroes (they couldn't move over terrain, didn't have flying vision, etc.). The only hero that's a flying hero in the game mechanics sense was Batrider during Firefly.
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