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gaymon
Germany1023 Posts
On March 12 2012 03:29 konadora wrote: wow you're right, i've watched dozens of dota 2 vods and ZERO shadow fiend... even if the metagame is now about early-mid pushing, SF should handle it pretty well no? not a single ability which helps him survive ( not even a slow ) kills his viability | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 12 2012 03:29 konadora wrote: wow you're right, i've watched dozens of dota 2 vods and ZERO shadow fiend... even if the metagame is now about early-mid pushing, SF should handle it pretty well no? Smoke getting added to the game killed Shadowfiend in competitive play. His early game is already shaky, and Smoke lets supports abuse the fact that he's one of the most gankable solo mids in the game--and if SF gets ganked once or twice, he can get completely shut out of the game. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66366 Posts
On March 12 2012 03:30 TheYango wrote: Don't worry, that will only last until we get 1-2 more high priority bans in the pool, or until people realize that Batrider is insane again. never played batrider (i realise i never play a lot of the "new heroes", invoker huskar all only played this year in dota 2, never in dota 1), but how good is he? btw, any idea which heroes might be coming next? people are saying lycan + syllabear + shadow demon? | ||
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
On March 12 2012 03:30 TheYango wrote: Don't worry, that will only last until we get 1-2 more high priority bans in the pool, or until people realize that Batrider is insane again. he was bugged untill the latest patch wasnt he ? | ||
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FantaFanta
Germany225 Posts
On March 12 2012 03:30 Qbek wrote: Dendi played some SF yesterday, guess it was in the dignits cup did they lose? Regarding the 5 Bans, I think it's very good. So we don't always see 100% the same heroes. There are like 100 heroes (don't know exactly... don#t have fcking key yet) to chose from and every game veno, the anker guy, chen, furion, mirana | ||
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konadora
Singapore66366 Posts
On March 12 2012 03:31 Firebolt145 wrote: Does fountain hook work in dota1? :/ iirc it does On March 12 2012 03:31 TheYango wrote: Smoke getting added to the game killed Shadowfiend in competitive play. His early game is already shaky, and Smoke lets supports abuse the fact that he's one of the most gankable solo mids in the game--and if SF gets ganked once or twice, he can get completely shut out of the game. why not as a side lane hero with a support then? sf shines early on because of his nuke, not his damage no? | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 12 2012 03:31 konadora wrote: never played batrider (i realise i never play a lot of the "new heroes", invoker huskar all only played this year in dota 2, never in dota 1), but how good is he? Batrider and Lycanthrope are far and away the most banned heroes in Chinese competitive DotA 1. On March 12 2012 03:33 konadora wrote: why not as a side lane hero with a support then? sf shines early on because of his nuke, not his damage no? Because he needs levels way too badly. If he takes twice as long to reach level 5/7, that's twice as long where he has absolutely no influence on the game. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66366 Posts
On March 12 2012 03:33 TheYango wrote: Batrider and Lycanthrope are far and away the most banned heroes in Chinese competitive DotA 1. hmm but why? i never played batrider myself so idk how he works | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On March 12 2012 03:34 konadora wrote: hmm but why? i never played batrider myself so idk how he works Napalm OP. | ||
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Fishgle
United States2174 Posts
On March 12 2012 03:34 konadora wrote: hmm but why? i never played batrider myself so idk how he works from playdota: Notes • Disable works on magic immune units. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 12 2012 03:34 konadora wrote: hmm but why? i never played batrider myself so idk how he works He's one of the strongest solo laners in the game, one of the scariest gankers in the game, and one of the most reliable initiators in the game. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34510 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66366 Posts
does napalm itself do damage? also, does it amplify dmg from other heroes/units? man i so dont know this hero lol | ||
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
On March 12 2012 03:37 Firebolt145 wrote: I expected Fear to be on Naix, Demon on Enigma, Maelk on Tide. Rather surprised. Maelk played Veno pretty often for EG before he was an 'official' member, and Demon was playing Furion earlier, in the semi I believe. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On March 12 2012 03:38 konadora wrote: does napalm itself do damage? also, does it amplify dmg from other heroes/units? man i so dont know this hero lol It slows turn rate(super annoying) and adds damage to every instance you do(fire fly has shitload of instances) | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On March 12 2012 03:38 konadora wrote: does napalm itself do damage? also, does it amplify dmg from other heroes/units? man i so dont know this hero lol amplifies damage from all instances higher then 36(dont quote me on this) damage, that includes heroes, creeps, dots everything. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66366 Posts
On March 12 2012 03:36 TheYango wrote: He's one of the strongest solo laners in the game, one of the scariest gankers in the game, and one of the most reliable initiators in the game. hmm then why isn't he being picked more often? teams opting for more push-heavy heroes? that's the feel i've been getting from all the lineups i've been seeing, the typical bm/veno/furion/chen/enchant etc etc. only saw him being used once in that defense compilation hype video lol On March 12 2012 03:41 Kipsate wrote: amplifies damage from all instances higher then 36(dont quote me on this) damage, that includes heroes, creeps, dots everything. lol that is pretty gay | ||
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
On March 12 2012 03:41 konadora wrote: hmm then why isn't he being picked more often? teams opting for more push-heavy heroes? that's the feel i've been getting from all the lineups i've been seeing, the typical bm/veno/furion/chen/enchant etc etc. only saw him being used once in that defense compilation hype video lol lol that is pretty gay iirc there are a couple of differences between DotA 1 and Dota 2's BR, such as: Napalm stack count is visible in fog of war, and is treated as a 'flying unit' by WC3 engine in DotA 1 | ||
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konadora
Singapore66366 Posts
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On napalm from playdota. He wasn't played so far coz he was bugged/not properly ported to dota2, and he got fixed but people need to train him a bit before they play him. | ||
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