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lozarian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1043 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 10:06:03
February 13 2012 10:05 GMT
#2281
Yeah, zeus is awesome, amazing burst damage, true sight rocks, lots of cheeky things you can do with him, for a pure "dumb" nuker (I.e. No complicated/clever skills) he has a really high skill cap. Seems like it's only the Russians that really rate him though, or it used to be.

Making me want to play Zeus now -.-

*sigh* 5 past 10 in the morning. Why is the working day not over yet?
For every battle honour a thousand heroes die alone, unsung, and unremembered.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
February 13 2012 10:13 GMT
#2282
Best thing to ever do with Zeus is save your own life with ministun from lightning bolt :D That Leoric was really pissed afterwards xD
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
lagmaster
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States374 Posts
February 13 2012 10:15 GMT
#2283
rabidch and dead9 wish they could play a drow like this

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PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
February 13 2012 10:26 GMT
#2284
On February 13 2012 19:05 lozarian wrote:
Yeah, zeus is awesome, amazing burst damage, true sight rocks, lots of cheeky things you can do with him, for a pure "dumb" nuker (I.e. No complicated/clever skills) he has a really high skill cap. Seems like it's only the Russians that really rate him though, or it used to be.

Making me want to play Zeus now -.-

*sigh* 5 past 10 in the morning. Why is the working day not over yet?


Haha at least its not 5 am for u... stayed up allnight playing dota! But what a good night it was.
Jieun <3
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
February 13 2012 10:27 GMT
#2285
damn
clan brazzers showing they know what's up when it comes to drow
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
February 13 2012 10:48 GMT
#2286
Anyone know of a source for Dota 2 replays? I am interested in watching GPM and seeing how I stack up/what I can do to replicate how the pro's farm. I don't have Dota 1 anymore so I can't watch those replays and vods generally don't give a good way for me to benchmark myself off of.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
February 13 2012 12:34 GMT
#2287
I just realized why my lag was so bad.

I thought I was active to China region and inactive to the rest. When in fact it was the opposite; I was inactive to China region and active to the rest.

Time to play games without 700 ping now, LOL.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
February 13 2012 13:23 GMT
#2288
I think Ursa in DotA2 Beta is very broken. Even in DotA 1 he did NOT deal that much dmg...... Anyone else feel like this?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
February 13 2012 13:32 GMT
#2289
idk about "very broken" but he definitely deals more damage

http://www.playdota.com/changelogs/6.73b
ctrl+f "ursa warrior"
KezseN
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1450 Posts
February 13 2012 13:45 GMT
#2290
On February 13 2012 21:34 writer22816 wrote:
I just realized why my lag was so bad.

I thought I was active to China region and inactive to the rest. When in fact it was the opposite; I was inactive to China region and active to the rest.

Time to play games without 700 ping now, LOL.


it takes forever to find a game in china though :/ Did u try SEA?
To Skeleton King: "Have you considered employment at Apple?"
Altsa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Finland990 Posts
February 13 2012 14:32 GMT
#2291
On February 13 2012 22:23 Seeker wrote:
I think Ursa in DotA2 Beta is very broken. Even in DotA 1 he did NOT deal that much dmg...... Anyone else feel like this?

Well, he got the +5 damage buff to Fury Swipes in the latest patch. He is the same in both games, though.

He actually used to be broken when his ultimate doubled the power of Fury Swipes when it was activated.
AoD
lozarian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1043 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 15:08:49
February 13 2012 15:03 GMT
#2292
I thought that was removed in a bugfix, then added back in deliberately, like tiny's avatoss.
Or not. Was the cast animation change I was thinking of.

Still does a lot of damage.
For every battle honour a thousand heroes die alone, unsung, and unremembered.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 18:30:03
February 13 2012 18:29 GMT
#2293
messed around with darkseer in dota 1 to check the kinds of differences he has in dota2

some immediate differences of vacuum

1. you cannot vacuum on a lot of cliffs. for example the following video is impossible to do with vacuum in dota1:


2. vacuum actually cares about unit size, fat clumps of units will not be pulled as far because itll stop the other units from getting to hte central point. in dota2, things actually pull to the point and then push out after reaching that. so vacuum is actually much stronger in dota2, especially for wall since all heroes and units will not exactly be pulled into the wall as planned
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 13 2012 20:34 GMT
#2294
What do you guys think about Crystal maiden skipping aura?I have been doing this sometimes(mostly when I feel like my team doesn't require much mana) and I feel its very strong for early game power and ganks.
WriterXiao8~~
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
February 13 2012 20:34 GMT
#2295
Just to touch up on one of rabidch's points, the collision size in Dota 2 is wonky. Like completely off at times, there are some times where I think I am blocked but not (like blocking creeps at start), there are times where I think I am not blocked, but am.

The most obvious is Veno's wards, it was next to impossible to block popular juke paths with just 1 ward in Dota 1, but in Dota 2, its much easier (noticeably so). The other obvious incidence is blocking enemy heroes with your hero model, in Dota 1, it was pretty much a guess and pretty avoidable by the blocked hero, not so much in Dota 2.

In either case, I am curious about the model size and collision data to come out (if it ever does) since there's something weird and significantly different between the different units.
Get it by your hands...
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
February 13 2012 21:06 GMT
#2296
On February 14 2012 05:34 Judicator wrote:
Just to touch up on one of rabidch's points, the collision size in Dota 2 is wonky. Like completely off at times, there are some times where I think I am blocked but not (like blocking creeps at start), there are times where I think I am not blocked, but am.

The most obvious is Veno's wards, it was next to impossible to block popular juke paths with just 1 ward in Dota 1, but in Dota 2, its much easier (noticeably so). The other obvious incidence is blocking enemy heroes with your hero model, in Dota 1, it was pretty much a guess and pretty avoidable by the blocked hero, not so much in Dota 2.

In either case, I am curious about the model size and collision data to come out (if it ever does) since there's something weird and significantly different between the different units.

i have a sneaking suspicion that batrider's firefly feels weaker because the radius+collision size isn't the same as in dota1. i havent really messed around with it, but firefly's aoe feels shitty in dota2
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 21:34:28
February 13 2012 21:33 GMT
#2297
On February 14 2012 05:34 Kipsate wrote:
What do you guys think about Crystal maiden skipping aura?I have been doing this sometimes(mostly when I feel like my team doesn't require much mana) and I feel its very strong for early game power and ganks.

Get as much of it as you feel your team needs. Be flexible about it. There's no unwritten rule that says you HAVE to take her aura early.
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Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 21:53:46
February 13 2012 21:33 GMT
#2298
On February 14 2012 05:34 Kipsate wrote:
What do you guys think about Crystal maiden skipping aura?I have been doing this sometimes(mostly when I feel like my team doesn't require much mana) and I feel its very strong for early game power and ganks.


Yeah it would primarily depend on your team line-up, and if you want to play heavy roaming which is what you should be doing with no aura. I generally just put 1 point into frostbite(W) and max out my AoE as soon as possible dumping the rest into aura. Prophet being in the game would be a huge deciding factor, and now aggressive he is being with his ganks, same can be said with how many other gankers are on the team and how effective they are.

Also what Yango said, there is no rule. I just have this thought process ---> (Sort of like playing as a Zerg) If I put additional points into Q or W will I make good use out of it? Is the game highly aggressive, or am I required to play super gank orientated/does my team need me to do it? Am I in a situation where Q would help me farm a bit better? If my mental checklist of criteria is not met, I'll invest in Brilliance Aura to help the team. (Drones!)
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
February 14 2012 01:33 GMT
#2299
Just watched the last game in the Ariana vs Dignitas series of The Defence. I think it was Dignitas Sony on Windrunner. It features some of the most amazing shackles I have ever seen. Consistently nailing 2 heroes multiple times a team fight every team fight. Absolutely an awesome game to watch.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
February 14 2012 01:42 GMT
#2300
Just got invoker for the first time ever, was hoping i would avoid randoming him lol. Didn't go so well....
Jieun <3
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