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On February 13 2012 21:34 writer22816 wrote:
I just realized why my lag was so bad.
I thought I was active to China region and inactive to the rest. When in fact it was the opposite; I was inactive to China region and active to the rest.
Time to play games without 700 ping now, LOL.
Try SEA, I see a lot of people from China there so the ping shouldn't be too high, and it should be faster too.
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On February 14 2012 10:42 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Just got invoker for the first time ever, was hoping i would avoid randoming him lol. Didn't go so well....
All you need to do is max W and then Q and spam EMP tornado and your team will think you're good, you never even need to invoke anything else really
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Just had to play Sand King with broken graphics (everything green, 70% of time screen is entirely black besides health bars) along with about a 1500ms Ping. Randomed into a group of 4 pre-made, which was amazing since they were so nice and worked together so well. Managed to rack up 3 triple kills by sheer luck, and went 9-9-26. Never playing on this computer again.
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On February 14 2012 10:58 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 10:42 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Just got invoker for the first time ever, was hoping i would avoid randoming him lol. Didn't go so well.... All you need to do is max W and then Q and spam EMP tornado and your team will think you're good, you never even need to invoke anything else really
Ya i "know how" to play him, just never have before. I did ok, but just like every other game I've played today the other team is doing level 1 rosh and nobody wants to fucking help defend it. Even after we stop them, put up wards, and watch them walk in 1 min later, no one will come. Thats 3 games in a row with lvl 1 rosh's. And hte last one my rl friend i was playing with fed 6 kills in the first 8 mins as prophet... super fun time!
Also, i may be retarded, but is there a way to invoke a spell into my "F" slot instead of the "D" one, so if i want emp/tornado, and my emp is already in the F i dont have to invoke twice? Is it just different combinations?
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Oh yeah I mean, I kind of know you know =P I'm just saying that if you're just starting out with Invoker that's the best way to play, there's no sense in my opinion to start messing with the more complicated stuff as that works kind of fine(in comparison to getting confused with all the skills and accomplishing nothing that is)
And yeah whenever I premade in either DotA or HoN it's always lvl 1 rosh, freewin as no one is good enough to stop it even if you go like Enigma Ursa Prophet Lich Beastmaster. "OMG WHAT DEY GUNNA DO?"
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On February 14 2012 11:19 Shikyo wrote:
Oh yeah I mean, I kind of know you know =P I'm just saying that if you're just starting out with Invoker that's the best way to play, there's no sense in my opinion to start messing with the more complicated stuff as that works kind of fine(in comparison to getting confused with all the skills and accomplishing nothing that is)
And yeah whenever I premade in either DotA or HoN it's always lvl 1 rosh, freewin as no one is good enough to stop it even if you go like Enigma Ursa Prophet Lich Beastmaster. "OMG WHAT DEY GUNNA DO?"
Lol also doens't help when your teams first 3 picks are Pudge, void, and prophet, so the last 2 guys pick storm spirit and AM.... makes for such good laning.
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On February 14 2012 06:33 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 05:34 Kipsate wrote:
What do you guys think about Crystal maiden skipping aura?I have been doing this sometimes(mostly when I feel like my team doesn't require much mana) and I feel its very strong for early game power and ganks. Get as much of it as you feel your team needs. Be flexible about it. There's no unwritten rule that says you HAVE to take her aura early.
This. Chinese CM -> max nova by 7 with one level in aura.
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On February 14 2012 11:03 ch33psh33p wrote:
Just had to play Sand King with broken graphics (everything green, 70% of time screen is entirely black besides health bars) along with about a 1500ms Ping. Randomed into a group of 4 pre-made, which was amazing since they were so nice and worked together so well. Managed to rack up 3 triple kills by sheer luck, and went 9-9-26. Never playing on this computer again.
I feel for you.
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^Holy shit yes exactly.
Most miserable thing ever when your team is mega nice and you don't want to let them down.
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Haha looks like Furion is underwater...
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ok seriously, how do you fucking lane vs a windrunner? I am so lost right now ~_~... her dmg and animation are pretty much perfect for last hitting and her 3rd skill just make her unkillable. She doesnt even need items mid game so if she dual lane with some carry she could just switch to baby siting without losing much mid game.
She reminds me of Clock or kunkka when they first came out: multiple usage and imbalance. Unless you stack up 2 stuns or more, there is no way you could kill a decent windrunner and thats a huge commitment in the end of early game phase.
If anyone know how to shut her down early on please do tell otherwise im just gona pick her every time in pub now ~_~
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On February 14 2012 13:35 NB wrote:
ok seriously, how do you fucking lane vs a windrunner? I am so lost right now ~_~... her dmg and animation are pretty much perfect for last hitting and her 3rd skill just make her unkillable. She doesnt even need items mid game so if she dual lane with some carry she could just switch to baby siting without losing much mid game.
She reminds me of Clock or kunkka when they first came out: multiple usage and imbalance. Unless you stack up 2 stuns or more, there is no way you could kill a decent windrunner and thats a huge commitment in the end of early game phase.
If anyone know how to shut her down early on please do tell otherwise im just gona pick her every time in pub now ~_~
There are a lot of lanes that work against WR. The real consideration is your entire lineup so your other lanes do fine.
A number of heroes can solo against her (plus they have the advantage of short lane). A common one is Nature's Prophet. You can also have dual lanes that work well. A dual lane of carry + Venomancer is good. For example, Slardar + Veno. A jungling hero next to safe lane (chen, enchantress, enigma) can help gank her as well.
Again, if you're focusing on just shutting down WR you need to make sure you don't throw the other lanes, because their carry is probably farming. You usually let WR get a bit of farm+xp in exchange for aiding other lanes.
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Windrunner is great in that she can survive against a lot of other lane combinations but she's not great in a 1v1 situation. In a 2 on 2 situation where Windrunner isn't acting as the primary farmer trade hits with her if you can. Windrunner has really low starting armour (1.4) so your attacks will hurt quite a bit.
Windrunner also has mana conservation issues. Low cooldown skills may entice you to use them often, but her mana pool isn't that great since her intelligence gain is slightly less than average for an intelligence hero.
Stacking slows is also extremely effective against Windrunner. You oftentimes don't get more than one level of the Windrunner ability (max Powershot and Shackleshot instead) so if you can keep her slowed during the duration of her Windrunner ability, she's toast.
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So I was on a 9 game winning streak... and now Im closing in on a 9 game losing streak, what a shitty day of dota Last game of the night actually got pretty crazy. I randomed Necrolyte and we fell so far behind to some Ursa just raping everyone(this happens like 80% of my games). We eventually pulled it back due to me being a total boss(not bragging totally true). The game went on for like an hour and a half, with us defending against mega creeps for like 20 mins and still almost pulled out the win. Rapiers were switching hands everywhere and shit, but we kept winning teamfights, until our bounty hunter suicided for like the 10th time by being out in the middle of nowhere and chasing people, and finally lost Was definitely a roller coaster ride though!
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/kepNH.png)
Necrolyte is definitely one of my favorite heroes in dota2.
Edit: Also the fact that doombringers ult goes through BKB is so stupid....
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On February 14 2012 17:55 PHILtheTANK wrote:So I was on a 9 game winning streak... and now Im closing in on a 9 game losing streak, what a shitty day of dota Last game of the night actually got pretty crazy. I randomed Necrolyte and we fell so far behind to some Ursa just raping everyone(this happens like 80% of my games). We eventually pulled it back due to me being a total boss(not bragging totally true). The game went on for like an hour and a half, with us defending against mega creeps for like 20 mins and still almost pulled out the win. Rapiers were switching hands everywhere and shit, but we kept winning teamfights, until our bounty hunter suicided for like the 10th time by being out in the middle of nowhere and chasing people, and finally lost Was definitely a roller coaster ride though! Necrolyte is definitely one of my favorite heroes in dota2. Edit: Also the fact that doombringers ult goes through BKB is so stupid....
holy shit, that late game.
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On February 14 2012 17:59 Kznn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 17:55 PHILtheTANK wrote:So I was on a 9 game winning streak... and now Im closing in on a 9 game losing streak, what a shitty day of dota Last game of the night actually got pretty crazy. I randomed Necrolyte and we fell so far behind to some Ursa just raping everyone(this happens like 80% of my games). We eventually pulled it back due to me being a total boss(not bragging totally true). The game went on for like an hour and a half, with us defending against mega creeps for like 20 mins and still almost pulled out the win. Rapiers were switching hands everywhere and shit, but we kept winning teamfights, until our bounty hunter suicided for like the 10th time by being out in the middle of nowhere and chasing people, and finally lost Was definitely a roller coaster ride though! Necrolyte is definitely one of my favorite heroes in dota2. Edit: Also the fact that doombringers ult goes through BKB is so stupid.... holy shit, that late game.
Lol most exhausting game ever Had we won would have been all worth it.
Edit: Also didn't help we were playing against some 5 man premade, all with stupid names..
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On February 14 2012 11:11 PHILtheTANK wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 10:58 Shikyo wrote:On February 14 2012 10:42 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Just got invoker for the first time ever, was hoping i would avoid randoming him lol. Didn't go so well.... All you need to do is max W and then Q and spam EMP tornado and your team will think you're good, you never even need to invoke anything else really Ya i "know how" to play him, just never have before. I did ok, but just like every other game I've played today the other team is doing level 1 rosh and nobody wants to fucking help defend it. Even after we stop them, put up wards, and watch them walk in 1 min later, no one will come. Thats 3 games in a row with lvl 1 rosh's. And hte last one my rl friend i was playing with fed 6 kills in the first 8 mins as prophet... super fun time! Also, i may be retarded, but is there a way to invoke a spell into my "F" slot instead of the "D" one, so if i want emp/tornado, and my emp is already in the F i dont have to invoke twice? Is it just different combinations?
If one of those games are me, Draz and MrCon, I apologize in advance. They won't though because they're too busy getting chain kills on the bottom lane 
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On February 14 2012 15:17 flamewheel wrote:
Windrunner is great in that she can survive against a lot of other lane combinations but she's not great in a 1v1 situation. In a 2 on 2 situation where Windrunner isn't acting as the primary farmer trade hits with her if you can. Windrunner has really low starting armour (1.4) so your attacks will hurt quite a bit.
Windrunner also has mana conservation issues. Low cooldown skills may entice you to use them often, but her mana pool isn't that great since her intelligence gain is slightly less than average for an intelligence hero.
Stacking slows is also extremely effective against Windrunner. You oftentimes don't get more than one level of the Windrunner ability (max Powershot and Shackleshot instead) so if you can keep her slowed during the duration of her Windrunner ability, she's toast.
There was a recent chinese game where windrunner didn't get shackleshot until level 8 or 9, in a solo lane.
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Fun game yesterday:
I was solo bottom as Tiny really wondering why the fuck mid never comes to help/gank (1on2 lane, I did not too bad.. Died twice iirc when they HC towerdived)...
End of the game I watch the lasthit/denie stats:
Invoker (mid) --> 40 denies and a decent amount of lasthits (a bit less than our Venge (babysitted by Necro) and Chen (woods).
After that I also knew why their prophet was so pissed :D.
That seriously was in general the best game i had since i don't know how long.. No one in the entire game was terrible.. It felt really nice for a change ^^.
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