EPTeven worse
Lothars is cheaper
gives more damage
gives more movement speed, while windwalked
and a pretty good escape
For serious games bkb into hotd.
And the janggo should be carried by a support
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
even worse Lothars is cheaper gives more damage gives more movement speed, while windwalked and a pretty good escape For serious games bkb into hotd. And the janggo should be carried by a support | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 13 2012 03:49 Yoshi- wrote: even worse Lothars is cheaper gives more damage gives more movement speed, while windwalked and a pretty good escape Yes Lothar's is cheaper, but also gives worse stats and is on the whole less cost-effective. Janggo/Yasha also build from small, easy-to-build components, so the two potential advantages of cheap items (cost-effective, gets you to fights quickly) do not favor Lothar's at all in this comparison. No, Lothar's does not give more damage. Janggo + Yasha gives 25 Agility + 9 damage, but Trueshot Aura multiplies Agility based damage and not plain damage, meaning that if you have 2nd rank or higher of Trueshot Aura, Janggo + Yasha gives more damage. This is not even considering the fact that Janggo + Yasha also gives +45% IAS passively, plus another 10 actively, when Lothar's gives a measly 10%. Janggo + Yasha gives 15% MS passively, and another +10% actively. That's more than Lothar's in all scenarios. The escape is unreliable. You're gambling on the fact that not 1 of the 5 people on the enemy team will buy dust for you. In the average case, having more HP/armor/movespeed from Janggo + Yasha is more likely to get you out alive. While HotD/Manta based builds are indeed safer and more stable, Janggo + Yasha is more directly comparable to Lothar's in pub games, because it builds from small components that come together quickly and get you into fights immediately. And the combination compares extremely favorably to Lothar's. On February 13 2012 03:49 Yoshi- wrote: And the janggo should be carried by a support Janggo can be carried by ANYONE. BH, Invoker, CK, and Panda are all common Janggo carriers in competitive play. While a support may get Janggo later, the stats are cost-effective even considering the redundant auras, and buying a new Janggo on someone else is more cost-efficient than refilling Janggo by re-buying the recipe. | ||
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N3rV[Green]
United States1935 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 13 2012 04:18 N3rV[Green] wrote: So i've played a couple games, gone 2/4 overall but it says ive "abandoned" 2 games. I went out for a smoke which took maybe 3 minutes and came back before the game ended twice but how the fuck can those be abandoning a game thats totally over? This put me into the "low priority" MM group for 24 hours apparently, and after I came back from lunch pressing the find game button did nothing. So I quit dota 2, tried to load it back up and steam says it can't sync my files with the cloud and the game won't work. WTF?!?! Steam is down for everyone right now, as far as I'm aware. | ||
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N3rV[Green]
United States1935 Posts
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Pseudoku
Canada1279 Posts
On February 13 2012 04:18 N3rV[Green] wrote: So i've played a couple games, gone 2/4 overall but it says ive "abandoned" 2 games. I went out for a smoke which took maybe 3 minutes and came back before the game ended twice but how the fuck can those be abandoning a game thats totally over? This put me into the "low priority" MM group for 24 hours apparently, and after I came back from lunch pressing the find game button did nothing. So I quit dota 2, tried to load it back up and steam says it can't sync my files with the cloud and the game won't work. WTF?!?! You get an abandon if you go afk for 5 minutes (if your character doesn't perform any actions - so talking does not count). | ||
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N3rV[Green]
United States1935 Posts
On February 13 2012 05:01 Pseudoku wrote: You get an abandon if you go afk for 5 minutes (if your character doesn't perform any actions - so talking does not count). I guess they really frown on afking. Guess I won't be doing that anymore T.T | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On February 13 2012 05:02 N3rV[Green] wrote: I guess they really frown on afking. Guess I won't be doing that anymore T.T Afking in many cases is more annoying and worse than just quitting the game. | ||
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mrgerry
United States1508 Posts
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ArcticVanguard
United States450 Posts
On February 13 2012 05:26 mrgerry wrote: Tobi + Mulan = win This. I was resisting every urge to sing along with him. I didn't know he was such a good singer! | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
On February 13 2012 05:41 ArcticVanguard wrote: This. I was resisting every urge to sing along with him. I didn't know he was such a good singer! He is when he picks the right song. Sometimes though....(Jack Sparrow comes to mind  ) | ||
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
On February 13 2012 04:20 TheYango wrote: Steam is down for everyone right now, as far as I'm aware. I have no idea what happened in the past few hours, is it still down? | ||
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rabidch
United States20288 Posts
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Quadratic
Canada249 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
I'm saying toss up between BH and Axe. | ||
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PHILtheTANK
United States1834 Posts
On February 13 2012 10:03 Nevuk wrote: Best drunk hero? I'm saying toss up between BH and Axe. I have quite a bit experience playing drunk lol. Axe is sweet but I think Storm Spirit is definetly the best drunk hero. Just flying around everywhere like a boss. Also skeleton king is sweet while hammered because you just run around into 1v5 and never die... so satisfying. | ||
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KezseN
Singapore1450 Posts
On February 13 2012 09:20 Quadratic wrote: For anyone wondering. Playdota has updated their key giveaway cut off date in their forums. Now anyone who registered before today and posted in that thread is now eligible. Good Luck guys. So if i registered today (13th feb), im eligible for a key? | ||
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Quadratic
Canada249 Posts
On February 13 2012 11:13 KezseN wrote: So if i registered today (13th feb), im eligible for a key? Sorry I forgot this site is on KST. It's Feb 12th. (I'm EST, still Feb 12th here). Sorry if that got your hopes up. I would sign up anyways and post on in the key thread because they keep raising the date of eligibility. | ||
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KezseN
Singapore1450 Posts
On February 13 2012 11:50 Quadratic wrote: Sorry I forgot this site is on KST. It's Feb 12th. (I'm EST, still Feb 12th here). Sorry if that got your hopes up. I would sign up anyways and post on in the key thread because they keep raising the date of eligibility. Ah no worries, was wondering cus i wanna get my brother a key as well | ||
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PHILtheTANK
United States1834 Posts
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