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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 14 2013 20:26 GMT
#461
On August 15 2013 05:10 yawnoC wrote:
It will be an interesting few weeks/months of DOTA scuffling :D

Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 04:53 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
David Gorman ‏@LDdota 1m

Expect a LOT of reshuffling. The only team that definitely won't make changes is Alliance.

---

LD gives permission to wildly speculate and make things up. In that spirit, Misery Link SyndereN Ryze Balsam! And a QPAD replaces SingSing with Walleater.
I miss watching Walleater farm like a maniac :/


I don't like the sounds of the new EG based of what Spitwad said...
NA dream team based off rumors:
Fear, Korok, Brax, Fogged/w2s, and Bdiz :D
Although a part of me wants fear to play mid for once ...


With that lineup you COULD have brax offlane (a given), Korok carry and fear mid (although korok mid is probably more likely). PS I think any NA dreamteam would probably have universe but I could be wrong. Bdiz and Korok are good friends but I'm not sure bdiz is really all that great.
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gosublade
Profile Joined May 2011
632 Posts
August 14 2013 20:26 GMT
#462
On August 15 2013 05:21 renfree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 00:51 TheTuna wrote:
Booting any of the core trio who have placed Top 2 at The International for 3 years now would be nuts. People love to criticize XBOCT and claim that he is "the weakest link" but the fact is that he's a damn good player, and to lose a proven success for an unknown quantity is a bet no team should be willing to take.

I can't see Puppey being kicked as Puppey and Dendi are the face of Na'Vi to most of the team's fans. Firing either of them would be a PR disaster, especially since they have proven that they are still capable of playing the game at a very high level.

If XBOCT is smart he'll reassess the situation once he's gained some distance from the loss emotionally and realize the folly of rocking the boat based solely on emotion for a team which has earned him hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Kuroky being let go I could see as he seems to be the largest cause of internal strife among the team, but firing Puppey could be absolutely disastrous for Na'Vi in terms of retaining the massive fanbase they have come to enjoy.

Why don't you think it's a mutual desire to part ways?



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Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10655 Posts
August 14 2013 20:29 GMT
#463
On August 15 2013 05:21 renfree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 00:51 TheTuna wrote:
Booting any of the core trio who have placed Top 2 at The International for 3 years now would be nuts. People love to criticize XBOCT and claim that he is "the weakest link" but the fact is that he's a damn good player, and to lose a proven success for an unknown quantity is a bet no team should be willing to take.

I can't see Puppey being kicked as Puppey and Dendi are the face of Na'Vi to most of the team's fans. Firing either of them would be a PR disaster, especially since they have proven that they are still capable of playing the game at a very high level.

If XBOCT is smart he'll reassess the situation once he's gained some distance from the loss emotionally and realize the folly of rocking the boat based solely on emotion for a team which has earned him hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Kuroky being let go I could see as he seems to be the largest cause of internal strife among the team, but firing Puppey could be absolutely disastrous for Na'Vi in terms of retaining the massive fanbase they have come to enjoy.

Why don't you think it's a mutual desire to part ways?

Cause it HAS to be drama when team split... Hue hue...

Anyways, Im praying for EG Korok+Brax. Or even Liquid Bdiz(I only say this because he was wearing that Liquid shirt in the Hotbid interview)+Korok+Brax. I honestly dont care which team they go to, as long as they end up together. Most likely will be EG though, well see.
Skol
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
August 14 2013 20:32 GMT
#464
On August 15 2013 05:26 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 05:10 yawnoC wrote:
It will be an interesting few weeks/months of DOTA scuffling :D

On August 15 2013 04:53 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
David Gorman ‏@LDdota 1m

Expect a LOT of reshuffling. The only team that definitely won't make changes is Alliance.

---

LD gives permission to wildly speculate and make things up. In that spirit, Misery Link SyndereN Ryze Balsam! And a QPAD replaces SingSing with Walleater.
I miss watching Walleater farm like a maniac :/


I don't like the sounds of the new EG based of what Spitwad said...
NA dream team based off rumors:
Fear, Korok, Brax, Fogged/w2s, and Bdiz :D
Although a part of me wants fear to play mid for once ...


With that lineup you COULD have brax offlane (a given), Korok carry and fear mid (although korok mid is probably more likely). PS I think any NA dreamteam would probably have universe but I could be wrong. Bdiz and Korok are good friends but I'm not sure bdiz is really all that great.
Ah this was more of my dreamteam ^_^ I agree on all point except for bdiz not being great
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
Snorkle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1648 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 20:39:47
August 14 2013 20:37 GMT
#465
On August 15 2013 05:26 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 05:10 yawnoC wrote:
It will be an interesting few weeks/months of DOTA scuffling :D

On August 15 2013 04:53 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
David Gorman ‏@LDdota 1m

Expect a LOT of reshuffling. The only team that definitely won't make changes is Alliance.

---

LD gives permission to wildly speculate and make things up. In that spirit, Misery Link SyndereN Ryze Balsam! And a QPAD replaces SingSing with Walleater.
I miss watching Walleater farm like a maniac :/


I don't like the sounds of the new EG based of what Spitwad said...
NA dream team based off rumors:
Fear, Korok, Brax, Fogged/w2s, and Bdiz :D
Although a part of me wants fear to play mid for once ...


With that lineup you COULD have brax offlane (a given), Korok carry and fear mid (although korok mid is probably more likely). PS I think any NA dreamteam would probably have universe but I could be wrong. Bdiz and Korok are good friends but I'm not sure bdiz is really all that great.

I'm telling ya, Fear is keeping jeyo and universe is going to be on that team as well. My newest tinfoil hat speculation is those three plus MSS and P0werNet. This is based on powernet standing in for eg near the end when demon was too busy hooking up with LoL girls to play and Powernet tweeting @ MSS (when he has never tweeted at him before) when mss tweeted that he was still just standin.mss

Prove me wrong!
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
August 14 2013 20:38 GMT
#466
My actual NA Dream team that would never happen

1 - Fear
2 - TC
3 - Brax
4 - Fluff
5 - MSS
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10655 Posts
August 14 2013 20:42 GMT
#467
Hm... EG could be:
1 - Jeyo
2 - Korok
3 - Brax
4 - Fear
5 - Bdiz

If this were to come true, then they would be my ultimate dream team. Besides Fnatic ofc ^_^
Skol
Souone
Profile Joined July 2012
Brazil470 Posts
August 14 2013 20:43 GMT
#468
I just realized NA Dream Team could look a lot like the old Quantic (Brax, Korok, Universe, 1437) + Fear. How was that team not better ?
Jragon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1471 Posts
August 14 2013 20:45 GMT
#469
On August 15 2013 01:09 superstartran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 00:51 TheTuna wrote:
Booting any of the core trio who have placed Top 2 at The International for 3 years now would be nuts. People love to criticize XBOCT and claim that he is "the weakest link" but the fact is that he's a damn good player, and to lose a proven success for an unknown quantity is a bet no team should be willing to take.

I can't see Puppey being kicked as Puppey and Dendi are the face of Na'Vi to most of the team's fans. Firing either of them would be a PR disaster, especially since they have proven that they are still capable of playing the game at a very high level.

If XBOCT is smart he'll reassess the situation once he's gained some distance from the loss emotionally and realize the folly of rocking the boat based solely on emotion for a team which has earned him hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Kuroky being let go I could see as he seems to be the largest cause of internal strife among the team, but firing Puppey could be absolutely disastrous for Na'Vi in terms of retaining the massive fanbase they have come to enjoy.



Hvost was having such major issues with Puppey that he ignored some of his calls in-game at the tournament. I don't think Puppey survives very long on the team if Hvost can't get over it. They honestly should have lost to Tongfu had it not been for fountain hooks; Hvost clearly fucked that game up for Na'vi by ignoring Puppey's call.

And Kuroky is likely to be let go simply because of language issues. Hvost had a good tournament, but still made alot of bad mistakes that a carry player shouldn't make. Last TI2 was almost a complete joke; it was like the whole team was playing around the fact that he had an extremely limited hero pool. He's expanded his hero pool alot, and he's certainly been better, but I still wouldn't consider him a top 5 carry yet.


How do you know xboct was having issues with Puppey and ignoring his calls in-game?
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Spit-wad
Profile Joined June 2011
United States297 Posts
August 14 2013 20:45 GMT
#470
1. The fact that I posted from an open bar means nothing
2. Nobody actually knows what's happening yet, including the players.
3. My speculation is based on my ability to decipher bullshit rumors from hints of truth. I heard a lot of things that I did not include in that thread. The majority of my information comes from sober sources, but I do not discredit what I heard from the loose-lipped drunks.
4. If someone told me about a roster change in confidence, I wouldn't post it. I never have -- that's why they tell me. The only reason I made that thread is because I truly believe nobody knows what's happening yet.
5. If I had to pick one change I'm most confident about, it's that Sneyking will no longer be on Team Dignitas.
6. Bdiz thinks he's getting booted from EG. The rest of my EG info is pure speculation based on the fact that Fear is amazing and the team has consistently underperformed with and without Maelk.
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 20:50:12
August 14 2013 20:46 GMT
#471
On August 15 2013 05:38 Klonere wrote:
My actual NA Dream team that would never happen

1 - Fear
2 - TC
3 - Brax
4 - Fluff
5 - MSS


here's mine

1. Korok
2. Brax
3. Bulba/Universe
4. Fear
5. 1437

On August 15 2013 05:43 Souone wrote:
I just realized NA Dream Team could look a lot like the old Quantic (Brax, Korok, Universe, 1437) + Fear. How was that team not better ?


Hopefully that team forms after TI3, That lineup would have happened earlier if only China didn't snatch Brax and 1437 from us.
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
August 14 2013 20:50 GMT
#472
On August 15 2013 05:46 zaii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 05:38 Klonere wrote:
My actual NA Dream team that would never happen

1 - Fear
2 - TC
3 - Brax
4 - Fluff
5 - MSS


here's mine

1. Korok
2. Brax
3. Bulba/Universe
4. Fear
5. 1437


NA Dream team:
Korok
TC
Fluff
Mike
Bulba


..... oh wait
GOGOGOGOGOGO Liquid!!! and please stay together and don't
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Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
August 14 2013 20:51 GMT
#473
On August 15 2013 05:45 Spit-wad wrote:
1. The fact that I posted from an open bar means nothing
2. Nobody actually knows what's happening yet, including the players.
3. My speculation is based on my ability to decipher bullshit rumors from hints of truth. I heard a lot of things that I did not include in that thread. The majority of my information comes from sober sources, but I do not discredit what I heard from the loose-lipped drunks.
4. If someone told me about a roster change in confidence, I wouldn't post it. I never have -- that's why they tell me. The only reason I made that thread is because I truly believe nobody knows what's happening yet.
5. If I had to pick one change I'm most confident about, it's that Sneyking will no longer be on Team Dignitas.
6. Bdiz thinks he's getting booted from EG. The rest of my EG info is pure speculation based on the fact that Fear is amazing and the team has consistently underperformed with and without Maelk.


Thanks for the post spit, I really liked bust a nads btw

do you know if demon is 100% quitting or is that still up in the air?
hermitcrab
Profile Joined August 2013
10 Posts
August 14 2013 20:52 GMT
#474
Demon said on his stream last night that he is planning on continuing his competitive career. I guess we'll see if its with EG or a different team.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 14 2013 20:54 GMT
#475
Brax developed a lot as a player in china IMO. I don't think you can particularly compair Quantic.brax and LGD.int.brax.
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Spit-wad
Profile Joined June 2011
United States297 Posts
August 14 2013 20:54 GMT
#476
Idk, I'll ask him, but I'm guessing he doesn't even know yet.

That's an extremely difficult decision for someone in his position.
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
August 14 2013 20:54 GMT
#477
On August 15 2013 05:50 YourGoodFriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 05:46 zaii wrote:
On August 15 2013 05:38 Klonere wrote:
My actual NA Dream team that would never happen

1 - Fear
2 - TC
3 - Brax
4 - Fluff
5 - MSS


here's mine

1. Korok
2. Brax
3. Bulba/Universe
4. Fear
5. 1437


NA Dream team:
Korok
TC
Fluff
Mike
Bulba


..... oh wait
GOGOGOGOGOGO Liquid!!! and please stay together and don't </3



Current TL has a very indecisive playstyle, hard to mesh that old complexity passive style and Koroks aggressive play style.
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
August 14 2013 21:00 GMT
#478
Imagine one of these two scenarios for Na'Vi:

1) XBOCT stays, they replace Kuroky with someone irrelevant for this scenario and dominate years to come, proving XBOCT or in fact anyone in the team isn't a weak link

2) They boot XBOCT and go undefeated for years

:D
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
August 14 2013 21:03 GMT
#479
so liquid replacing korok with a-god??? [confirm/deny]
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
August 14 2013 21:06 GMT
#480
I don't understand this na'vi drama. Their result was really good. Alliance were unbeatable and they got 2nd. What more do you ask for? Beating EG.eu, eh, Alliance?

So xboct is upset that his supports play like shit. Has there ever been any carry who didn't feel this?
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