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Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
September 03 2013 07:12 GMT
#2901
I can't find the spat they had on weibo. Must have been good.
mydb9
Profile Joined September 2013
China16 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-03 07:46:43
September 03 2013 07:46 GMT
#2902
My take on the current situation:

Apart from VG, no team is set and moreover, no team will have less than two changes when the dust settles. The current situation is very volatile and the catalyst for everything is Tongfu.

Tongfu: Hao and Mu are both actively looking, with Mu very keen to settle in Shanghai. Hao looks to be iG's first-choice replacement with DK next in line. Mu meanwhile looks almost certain to join RisingStars, as replacement for Air, with KingJ also speculated to form a formidable trio with Xiaotuji. This leaves Banana as a very interesting support piece, particularly for DK if they don't land their man in Chuan. As for Tongfu's future if all this goes as expected? Very bleak.

iG: Contrary to some reports, their team is far from confirmed even if Hao lands as expected. Rumor still surrounds Chuan and there's a minuscule chance 430 could end up trading places with Mushi in DK. I'm predicting Chuan will leave and with that, Sansheng to come in.

DK: Insiders have all but confirmed the triumvirate of Burning, Mushi and LaNm (who is currently at their Yunnan base). Their other moves will depend how the Hao-iG rumor plays out which would likely see them targeting Sylar and less likely, Zhou. The final piece will depend on Chuan's choice and if that falls through, Sydm and Banana could be good fits.

LGD: Xiao8, in Shanghai, has expressed there's a chance they may target Zhou to replace Sylar. Chances of Hao slipping through are slim at best and the only other rumors are of proteges Cty or Maybe getting a run. While this seems the most obvious need, when Tongfu blows up, I would expect them to make serious enquiries about Sansheng and Banana to re-invigorate the team.

RisingStars: The big winners of all this. Very straight-forward in all their dealings so far, they are odds-on favorite to feast off Tongfu in the upcoming shakeup with Mu and KingJ very much in their sights. With Xiaotuji and Super, this forms a very formidable core to build on.

Again, everything is conjecture built around various Chinese sources and some insider info but if one thing is for sure, it's that Zhou's departure is nothing compared to what's coming around the corner with Tongfu.
renfree
Profile Joined November 2012
4485 Posts
September 03 2013 08:03 GMT
#2903
Ironically TongFu were the ones that performed the best at TI3, yet they will suffer the most coming out of this.Why, what the reasoning, were they not pleased with conditions or is there internal conflicts within the team?
What can change the nature of a man?
FractalsOnFire
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1756 Posts
September 03 2013 08:11 GMT
#2904
On September 03 2013 17:03 renfree wrote:
Ironically TongFu were the ones that performed the best at TI3, yet they will suffer the most coming out of this.Why, what the reasoning, were they not pleased with conditions or is there internal conflicts within the team?


Money?
GodBlessMali
Profile Joined December 2012
France251 Posts
September 03 2013 08:12 GMT
#2905
On September 03 2013 17:03 renfree wrote:
Ironically TongFu were the ones that performed the best at TI3, yet they will suffer the most coming out of this.Why, what the reasoning, were they not pleased with conditions or is there internal conflicts within the team?


Speculations =) Mu and KingJ to RisingStars is not a done deal, far from it.
"The man who does more than he is paid for will soon be paid for more than he does." Napoleon Hill
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
September 03 2013 08:19 GMT
#2906
IG has a lot of pocket change, they can afford to entice just about any player in China to join their team as well as dropping anyone as well.

My predictions for iG was wrong (I presumed this would have been the easy prediction) but my Tong Fu analysis is looking spot on. So LGD I expect Sylar to move but wouldn't be surprised if DK were to let Burning slide either. It anything I'm almost positive Burning will not remain on a 1 position.

DK's roster might be the hardest to predict. Seriously if you really think about it, nothing at all is solidified when it comes to what will happen with DK.
Xynch
Profile Joined August 2013
40 Posts
September 03 2013 08:20 GMT
#2907
https://www.facebook.com/TongFudota/posts/726248060735155

Hello everybody! Long time no see. How have you been? We visited our Facebook pages a few days ago and saw more than 120 private messages so we thought that giving you some updates about our team would be a good idea.

We read a lot of rumors on the Chinese websites, we don't know about the western websites but many many rumors are not true. Our team will undergo some roster changes. We won't say who will leave/join because nothing is confirmed yet, but we can assure you that our team will still be strong.

We need you to wait for our official announcement.

Thanks very much.

PS: After reading so many messages of encouragement, we will use Facebook and maybe Twitter? (we are not familiar with Twitter yet) again. Before TI3, we didn't feel that our page was necessary, but after the event, so many fans contacted us and congratulated us so we feel that we should update our fans outside of China. Expect more from us.
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
September 03 2013 08:20 GMT
#2908
On September 03 2013 17:03 renfree wrote:
Ironically TongFu were the ones that performed the best at TI3, yet they will suffer the most coming out of this.Why, what the reasoning, were they not pleased with conditions or is there internal conflicts within the team?

I dont know all that about Chinese teams, but IG and LGD seem like the wealthiest teams over there, with DK lurking in the same region, those three are historically also the three biggest chinese teams in Dota2.
Im very happy RisingStars looks to make good aquisitions tho ;-)

PS: Chinese scene pros: What happened to all the Cty fanboys? And is he not looked upon as the biggest rising star anymore, as noone looks to be interested in him?
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 03 2013 08:23 GMT
#2909
His ego is twice the size of A-god I believe

or something like that, hard to play with in a team.
WriterXiao8~~
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
September 03 2013 08:23 GMT
#2910
--- Nuked ---
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
September 03 2013 08:25 GMT
#2911
On September 03 2013 17:23 Kipsate wrote:
His ego is twice the size of A-god I believe

or something like that, hard to play with in a team.

I c... Hope he can get he's head straight, he had some fantastic play for VG at times (Some brain farts too, but.. ).
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3440 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-03 08:32:10
September 03 2013 08:27 GMT
#2912
On September 03 2013 17:20 Xynch wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/TongFudota/posts/726248060735155

Hello everybody! Long time no see. How have you been? We visited our Facebook pages a few days ago and saw more than 120 private messages so we thought that giving you some updates about our team would be a good idea.

We read a lot of rumors on the Chinese websites, we don't know about the western websites but many many rumors are not true. Our team will undergo some roster changes. We won't say who will leave/join because nothing is confirmed yet, but we can assure you that our team will still be strong.

We need you to wait for our official announcement.

Thanks very much.

PS: After reading so many messages of encouragement, we will use Facebook and maybe Twitter? (we are not familiar with Twitter yet) again. Before TI3, we didn't feel that our page was necessary, but after the event, so many fans contacted us and congratulated us so we feel that we should update our fans outside of China. Expect more from us.

Good to hear that TongFu is reaching out more to the fans. Always a good thing . Also congrats on the TI3 performance

About DK, I literally have 0 clue about who are the supports gonna be, since the support players currently available is, well, almost no one. Lamn ? Then who else ? For mid, I prefer Cty more than Mushi, even though the later seems more likely. Also I hope that Burning will remain on 1 position, cause you know, it's Burning, and he never slump on that role like, ever. But then there is absolutely no one available for the offlane right now ...
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
September 03 2013 08:27 GMT
#2913
On September 03 2013 17:23 Dattish wrote:
A thought on TongFu, what if KingJ moves to carry after Hao leaves, Sansheng back on offlane and then just pick up one of the DK supports? Pretty strong lineup right there.

Or they could pickup Sylar?
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
renfree
Profile Joined November 2012
4485 Posts
September 03 2013 08:28 GMT
#2914
On September 03 2013 17:19 Kuroeeah wrote:
IG has a lot of pocket change, they can afford to entice just about any player in China to join their team as well as dropping anyone as well.

My predictions for iG was wrong (I presumed this would have been the easy prediction) but my Tong Fu analysis is looking spot on. So LGD I expect Sylar to move but wouldn't be surprised if DK were to let Burning slide either. It anything I'm almost positive Burning will not remain on a 1 position.

DK's roster might be the hardest to predict. Seriously if you really think about it, nothing at all is solidified when it comes to what will happen with DK.

They can't get BurNIng, they've tried though. So no, money is not everything even if you're iG.
What can change the nature of a man?
mydb9
Profile Joined September 2013
China16 Posts
September 03 2013 08:41 GMT
#2915
Regarding TongFu's facebook post, I'd surmise their optimism stems from calls to Zhou and previous contact with Cty or even both. Mu is hellbent on living in Shanghai and I doubt Hao can resist iG. Either way, getting one or both of those would go a long way to rebuilding the team but I don't think the changes there will stop at two, imho.
renfree
Profile Joined November 2012
4485 Posts
September 03 2013 08:48 GMT
#2916
Someone, translate please - http://dota2.replays.net/news/page/20130903/1849163.html
What can change the nature of a man?
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
September 03 2013 09:03 GMT
#2917
DK = Sylar, Mushi, BurNing, LanM +1 looks incredibly strong, but Mali said there wouldn't be dream-team lineup for them, huh. I think Zhou is still world-class player, he just got tired of carry role, therefore it's unlikely he would land at LGD.

If I were LGD, I would take CTY while he is still aviable.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
GodBlessMali
Profile Joined December 2012
France251 Posts
September 03 2013 09:11 GMT
#2918
On September 03 2013 18:03 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
DK = Sylar, Mushi, BurNing, LanM +1 looks incredibly strong, but Mali said there wouldn't be dream-team lineup for them, huh. I think Zhou is still world-class player, he just got tired of carry role, therefore it's unlikely he would land at LGD.

If I were LGD, I would take CTY while he is still aviable.


I might be wrong about DK... but I don't think we will see a Dream Team.
"The man who does more than he is paid for will soon be paid for more than he does." Napoleon Hill
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-03 09:42:21
September 03 2013 09:17 GMT
#2919
On September 03 2013 17:48 renfree wrote:
Someone, translate please - http://dota2.replays.net/news/page/20130903/1849163.html


Basically, there are 2 person asking far seer question. They asked if Dream 4 player team will has any change, there are no replies. Far seer said that DK new line-up definitely had the abilities to win championship again and that it will not disappoint the fans. ( more star power?)

Zhuai asked if Mushi and Lamn(I am not sure if Lamn is 国士) is joining DK and Far seer gave a smile face.

Far seer said Tongfu is having a full shuffle ( I guess everyone in the team are sought out). He said only VG roster are ready among the Chinese team and mentioned that there will not be any new players( pub star?) joining DK.

The rest of the informations are not as relevant or already known.
renfree
Profile Joined November 2012
4485 Posts
September 03 2013 09:38 GMT
#2920
Ty very much!
What can change the nature of a man?
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