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Protocon
Profile Joined February 2010
United States255 Posts
September 02 2013 01:53 GMT
#2761
Well if Navi is keeping their roster, I can't see them performing amazingly. The atmosphere won't be good when you know you're not gonna be in the team for long (kuro and funnik).
asdf
renfree
Profile Joined November 2012
4485 Posts
September 02 2013 01:57 GMT
#2762
On September 02 2013 10:53 Protocon wrote:
Well if Navi is keeping their roster, I can't see them performing amazingly. The atmosphere won't be good when you know you're not gonna be in the team for long (kuro and funnik).

Its actually not Kuro and Funn1k who is problematic.
What can change the nature of a man?
x256
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada28 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-02 02:00:27
September 02 2013 01:59 GMT
#2763
On September 02 2013 10:53 Protocon wrote:
Well if Navi is keeping their roster, I can't see them performing amazingly. The atmosphere won't be good when you know you're not gonna be in the team for long (kuro and funnik).


Since when did people start hating on Funn1k? There is literally nothing which would cause them to lose him after they got him from Empire. He is the best CIS offlaner, and good friends with XBOCT and Dendi.
Besides, the guy is amazing, a key playmaker at this point, and has a decent hero pool.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 02 2013 02:00 GMT
#2764
On September 02 2013 10:45 renfree wrote:
Another inside info is that Smile was kicked from VP because new trio refused to play with him in one team and made some kind of ultimatum - either them or Smile.


The Trio of G, LoH, Goblak? Thought LoH was on good terms with him.
renfree
Profile Joined November 2012
4485 Posts
September 02 2013 02:02 GMT
#2765
On September 02 2013 11:00 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 10:45 renfree wrote:
Another inside info is that Smile was kicked from VP because new trio refused to play with him in one team and made some kind of ultimatum - either them or Smile.


The Trio of G, LoH, Goblak? Thought LoH was on good terms with him.

I don't think anybody of them is on bad terms with him, most likely was just a case of different commitment.
What can change the nature of a man?
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
September 02 2013 02:04 GMT
#2766
On September 02 2013 10:51 iNteLStyLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 10:45 renfree wrote:
Inside info is that Na`Vi won't change roster, but not because everything is fine within the team, but because they waited for too long and dragged the decision to the point, that there is no appropriate players available to pick up anymore. That was one of the reasons on why VP delayed their new roster announcement, because there was uncertainty with Na`Vi's state. So - yes, they will stay the same, but for the good?

Another inside info is that Smile was kicked from VP because new trio refused to play with him in one team and made some kind of ultimatum - either them or Smile.


ZeroGravity was prob too busy with his eSports alliance. Understandable.
I have noticed a decrease in suckers lately.
Once you Goblak...
pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
September 02 2013 02:09 GMT
#2767
when someone mention a player immediately another one appears to ask why everyone is hating him lol
Niteblade_
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada292 Posts
September 02 2013 02:54 GMT
#2768
On September 02 2013 05:50 Zavior wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:47 Fusilero wrote:
On September 02 2013 04:53 Grettin wrote:
Didnt see this in the OP.

BlowYourBrain leaves.
http://www.team-empire.org/news/1420/

MVP.BYB incoming.


I can't honestly see phe'v in a non-russian speaking team. Never has been, probably never will be :o



Damn phe'v=byb? I remember him from Hon, I was wondering if he was somewhere in Dota. Did he ever play mid in Dota? Back in the day (different time difference day) he played a sick mid
"As Dendi and xboct were walking off stage, I hope Dendi was saying 'Man I can't believe we won that game that way, we are such a bunch of assholes"- James "2GD" Harding on Na'vi vs Tongfu
Niteblade_
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada292 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-02 03:02:13
September 02 2013 03:01 GMT
#2769
On September 02 2013 10:41 zaii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 10:35 Bisu-Fan wrote:
Maybe its depressing in that nothing changed? So he's saying it won't be obvious to the public?


except that he says later "change is for the better" meaning something has changed.


Actually he said sometimes change is for the better, meaning it's likely that nothing has changed. XD. Well they didn't drop aa and low right away last year I'd I remember correctly.

Sorry for double, on mobile and it's hard to put a second quote in
"As Dendi and xboct were walking off stage, I hope Dendi was saying 'Man I can't believe we won that game that way, we are such a bunch of assholes"- James "2GD" Harding on Na'vi vs Tongfu
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-02 03:03:38
September 02 2013 03:03 GMT
#2770
I don't get the 'they took too long'. Na'Vi can take any player they want. It might cost them a bit more but I can't imagine they'd have to pay all that much to get players from any team except maybe VP. (only considering CIS players here)
Once you Goblak...
renfree
Profile Joined November 2012
4485 Posts
September 02 2013 03:17 GMT
#2771
On September 02 2013 12:03 teapoted wrote:
I don't get the 'they took too long'. Na'Vi can take any player they want. It might cost them a bit more but I can't imagine they'd have to pay all that much to get players from any team except maybe VP. (only considering CIS players here)

Na`Vi don't want any player obviously, they want the best. And the best are now taken (see VP as hint).
What can change the nature of a man?
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-02 03:28:14
September 02 2013 03:24 GMT
#2772
I think the issue might be ok. Empire suddenly lost Blowyourbrain and Smile IS free as well.

If they are serious to change again, then... That's a thought. I don't hate Kuro, but I dislike his style of support. He is suppose to be 5 and he plays like a 3 on Support. It is irritating.

Edit: If this is real, and they are having internal issues, change WILL come eventually. It happened with Lost and Smile, it will happen again.
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teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-02 03:43:18
September 02 2013 03:41 GMT
#2773
On September 02 2013 12:17 renfree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 12:03 teapoted wrote:
I don't get the 'they took too long'. Na'Vi can take any player they want. It might cost them a bit more but I can't imagine they'd have to pay all that much to get players from any team except maybe VP. (only considering CIS players here)

Na`Vi don't want any player obviously, they want the best. And the best are now taken (see VP as hint).
And who would they want from VP? Resolution? God?

It wouldn't be Goblak, NS, LoH.

It just seems like nonsense to me. If Na'Vi wanted a player, they'd say "hey, wait with your decisions for a couple of weeks, play stand-in, whatever." And very few CIS players would say no to that opportunity.
Once you Goblak...
broodbucket
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia963 Posts
September 02 2013 03:41 GMT
#2774
Aui on support is still weird. He farms heaps and doesn't join in much on junglers.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
September 02 2013 03:47 GMT
#2775
On September 02 2013 12:41 broodbucket wrote:
Aui on support is still weird. He farms heaps and doesn't join in much on junglers.


So exactly like what Kuroky does?
secret - never again
renfree
Profile Joined November 2012
4485 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-02 03:57:38
September 02 2013 03:52 GMT
#2776
On September 02 2013 12:24 Seraphic wrote:
I think the issue might be ok. Empire suddenly lost Blowyourbrain and Smile IS free as well.

If they are serious to change again, then... That's a thought. I don't hate Kuro, but I dislike his style of support. He is suppose to be 5 and he plays like a 3 on Support. It is irritating.

Edit: If this is real, and they are having internal issues, change WILL come eventually. It happened with Lost and Smile, it will happen again.

Uh, Na`Vi won't take Smile back, and considering the positions of conflicting players i'd say you should look at available supports.

On September 02 2013 12:41 broodbucket wrote:
Aui on support is still weird. He farms heaps and doesn't join in much on junglers.

I hate Aui on support, he's just utterly useless for the first 10 mins, hiding in jungles to get his farm and not helping any lane ever. Compare him to Akke's junglers/Visage or to Puppey...man i don't even wanna go into it, his selfish play just makes me die inside. Not even Kuro that greedy, poor PLD have to get everything done on his own. Or solo laners for that matter.
What can change the nature of a man?
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
September 02 2013 04:03 GMT
#2777
On September 02 2013 12:52 renfree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 12:24 Seraphic wrote:
I think the issue might be ok. Empire suddenly lost Blowyourbrain and Smile IS free as well.

If they are serious to change again, then... That's a thought. I don't hate Kuro, but I dislike his style of support. He is suppose to be 5 and he plays like a 3 on Support. It is irritating.

Edit: If this is real, and they are having internal issues, change WILL come eventually. It happened with Lost and Smile, it will happen again.

Uh, Na`Vi won't take Smile back, and considering the positions of conflicting players i'd say you should look at available supports.

Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 12:41 broodbucket wrote:
Aui on support is still weird. He farms heaps and doesn't join in much on junglers.

I hate Aui on support, he's just utterly useless for the first 10 mins, hiding in jungles to get his farm and not helping any lane ever. Compare him to Akke's junglers/Visage or to Puppey...man i don't even wanna go into it, his selfish play just makes me die inside. Not even Kuro that greedy, poor PLD have to get everything done on his own. Or solo laners for that matter.


I'd argue Kuroky is exactly that greedy, if not more. They've had to give Kuroky farm over Xboct just so he could get his blink dagger in games.
secret - never again
GranDGranT
Profile Joined April 2011
Sri Lanka2141 Posts
September 02 2013 04:05 GMT
#2778
That isn't considered greedy
All Dota 2 casters are bad at their job
renfree
Profile Joined November 2012
4485 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-02 04:09:02
September 02 2013 04:07 GMT
#2779
On September 02 2013 13:03 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 12:52 renfree wrote:
On September 02 2013 12:24 Seraphic wrote:
I think the issue might be ok. Empire suddenly lost Blowyourbrain and Smile IS free as well.

If they are serious to change again, then... That's a thought. I don't hate Kuro, but I dislike his style of support. He is suppose to be 5 and he plays like a 3 on Support. It is irritating.

Edit: If this is real, and they are having internal issues, change WILL come eventually. It happened with Lost and Smile, it will happen again.

Uh, Na`Vi won't take Smile back, and considering the positions of conflicting players i'd say you should look at available supports.

On September 02 2013 12:41 broodbucket wrote:
Aui on support is still weird. He farms heaps and doesn't join in much on junglers.

I hate Aui on support, he's just utterly useless for the first 10 mins, hiding in jungles to get his farm and not helping any lane ever. Compare him to Akke's junglers/Visage or to Puppey...man i don't even wanna go into it, his selfish play just makes me die inside. Not even Kuro that greedy, poor PLD have to get everything done on his own. Or solo laners for that matter.


I'd argue Kuroky is exactly that greedy, if not more. They've had to give Kuroky farm over Xboct just so he could get his blink dagger in games.

Just like they had to sacrifice EE just for Aui to get Aghs? :D
And Kuro at least is helping the lanes early on, you cannot deny that he's very involved into ganks. In case of Aui it just passive farming.
What can change the nature of a man?
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-02 04:20:46
September 02 2013 04:18 GMT
#2780
On September 02 2013 13:07 renfree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 13:03 ch33psh33p wrote:
On September 02 2013 12:52 renfree wrote:
On September 02 2013 12:24 Seraphic wrote:
I think the issue might be ok. Empire suddenly lost Blowyourbrain and Smile IS free as well.

If they are serious to change again, then... That's a thought. I don't hate Kuro, but I dislike his style of support. He is suppose to be 5 and he plays like a 3 on Support. It is irritating.

Edit: If this is real, and they are having internal issues, change WILL come eventually. It happened with Lost and Smile, it will happen again.

Uh, Na`Vi won't take Smile back, and considering the positions of conflicting players i'd say you should look at available supports.

On September 02 2013 12:41 broodbucket wrote:
Aui on support is still weird. He farms heaps and doesn't join in much on junglers.

I hate Aui on support, he's just utterly useless for the first 10 mins, hiding in jungles to get his farm and not helping any lane ever. Compare him to Akke's junglers/Visage or to Puppey...man i don't even wanna go into it, his selfish play just makes me die inside. Not even Kuro that greedy, poor PLD have to get everything done on his own. Or solo laners for that matter.


I'd argue Kuroky is exactly that greedy, if not more. They've had to give Kuroky farm over Xboct just so he could get his blink dagger in games.

Just like they had to sacrifice EE just for Aui to get Aghs? :D
And Kuro at least is helping the lanes early on, you cannot deny that he's very involved into ganks. In case of Aui it just passive farming.

More like he sacrificed bOne7 to get Aghs. And you know what? It worked, because bOne7's Clock requires very little farm to be effective. Oh and do you not remember the number of times he came out of the jungle to back Sing up when he was facing ganks/retreating in mid?

This criticism against Aui is too early and too unjustified at the moment IMO. He's not exactly the best support and has clearly made positional mistakes as a support, but to think Supports/Junglers are only meant to babysit carries and plant wards is just nearsighted.
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