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On October 18 2013 03:00 Cold Warpgates wrote:I apologize if this has already been answered, but when it says: Show nested quote +* Buyback prevents gaining unreliable gold (creeps, neutrals, etc) until your normal respawn time finishes * When buying back, 25% of the remaining respawn time will be added to your next death Does that mean that after a buyback and until you would have respawned normally... a) you get 0 gold from unreliable sources (creeps etc) b) you get gold from unreliable sources, but you get it as reliable means a
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These patchnotes are 100% fake, or at least a lot of the changes will not appear in the final version. Too many drastic changes and a lot of the changes do not seem "realistic".
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It's gotta be a. It doesn't make any sense otherwise. It's mostly I think to prevent death->buyback->go farm.
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On October 18 2013 03:00 BurningSera wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 02:50 theqat wrote:On October 18 2013 02:49 Targe wrote:On October 18 2013 02:47 theqat wrote:On October 18 2013 02:46 Erasme wrote:On October 18 2013 02:44 Plansix wrote:On October 18 2013 02:41 Erasme wrote: i dont like that patch at all Someone doesn't like change or his cheese being moved. Not really, a lot of these changes don't make any sense I should prolly switch to LoL anyway til dota stops lagging for me You can't just say that things "don't make sense" without being specific. This just makes people think you haven't thought things through at all. It's like saying "the sky is falling" when you haven't seen the impact of the changes yet. What doesn't make sense? there's loads of big changes in there that you could think don't make sense, no need to be specific. Not one person who said "doesn't make sense" has named even a single change they think doesn't make sense. It's a stupid thing to post if you're not going to actually create a discussion about it. too many of them are pure ridiculous. 3mins fly courier limit, to nerf mid bottle crow and icefrog went full retard. Pudge's dagger - why dont they just implement Techies if they wished for serious pub greifing. Just too many. I get it this is the first patch that they purposely tweak and change stuffs based on dota2 engine but the amount of ridicules in the patch are just mindblowing. Not that I hate or like it but this is a whole new game from now on.
nerfing bottle crow is going "full retard?" What?
Who cares if pudge can get dagger? They made it impossible to trap people with it so it doesn't matter.
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On October 18 2013 03:02 jigga wrote: These patchnotes are 100% fake, or at least a lot of the changes will not appear in the final version. Too many drastic changes and a lot of the changes do not seem "realistic".
They are 100% real, confirmed by icefrog on his weibo account
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On October 18 2013 03:02 jigga wrote: These patchnotes are 100% fake, or at least a lot of the changes will not appear in the final version. Too many drastic changes and a lot of the changes do not seem "realistic". read the thread, confirmed by icefrog
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This finally confirms that IceFrog is in fact Kim Jong Un.
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Man there is a lot to digest with these changes. Pull camps, camps in general, 25% increase in passive gold rate, reduced xp gain from jungling; all that seems gamechanging.
I would like to see some explanation behind some of the changes though. Hopefully somethings gets published soon.
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The Roshan change seems good to me. You need to actively scout the pit instead of writing down a timer and then it ends in a boring 3 minute stalemate around the rosh pit.
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On October 18 2013 03:02 BlitzerSC wrote: I'm calling this patch a fake for 2 reasons:
1) It hasn't been posted on Playdota 2) Some of the changes are fucking stupid ( ex: roshan ).
Read the thread for once.
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I hope this is real if only to see Broodmother web cliffwalking.
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On October 18 2013 03:02 theqat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 03:00 BurningSera wrote:On October 18 2013 02:50 theqat wrote:On October 18 2013 02:49 Targe wrote:On October 18 2013 02:47 theqat wrote:On October 18 2013 02:46 Erasme wrote:On October 18 2013 02:44 Plansix wrote:On October 18 2013 02:41 Erasme wrote: i dont like that patch at all Someone doesn't like change or his cheese being moved. Not really, a lot of these changes don't make any sense I should prolly switch to LoL anyway til dota stops lagging for me You can't just say that things "don't make sense" without being specific. This just makes people think you haven't thought things through at all. It's like saying "the sky is falling" when you haven't seen the impact of the changes yet. What doesn't make sense? there's loads of big changes in there that you could think don't make sense, no need to be specific. Not one person who said "doesn't make sense" has named even a single change they think doesn't make sense. It's a stupid thing to post if you're not going to actually create a discussion about it. too many of them are pure ridiculous. 3mins fly courier limit, to nerf mid bottle crow and icefrog went full retard. Pudge's dagger - why dont they just implement Techies if they wished for serious pub greifing. Just too many. I get it this is the first patch that they purposely tweak and change stuffs based on dota2 engine but the amount of ridicules in the patch are just mindblowing. Not that I hate or like it but this is a whole new game from now on. nerfing bottle crow is going "full retard?" What? Who cares if pudge can get dagger? They made it impossible to trap people with it so it doesn't matter. Contrary to popular belief, nerfing bottle crow will make mid lane a lot less interesting.
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On October 18 2013 03:02 jigga wrote: These patchnotes are 100% fake, or at least a lot of the changes will not appear in the final version. Too many drastic changes and a lot of the changes do not seem "realistic".
Guess you haven't been playing dota for very long?
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On October 18 2013 02:39 WindWolf wrote:Show nested quote +
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* Buyback prevents gaining unreliable gold (creeps, neutrals, etc) until your normal respawn time finishes * When buying back, 25% of the remaining respawn time will be added to your next death
Something had to be done about buy-backs, good call imo I'm wondering how this will impact the meta-game. Possibly a bigger change than anyone things Interesting choice as well More N0tail rat doto ? Show nested quote + Animal Courier - Movement speed increased from 300 to 350 - HP increased from 45 to 75
Well, during TI3 we saw far more than enough courier kills Ward last 7 minutes while the first night at 4, then it's day time only 1 minute after ward expires.
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is there anything they didn change?
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So many of these changes make no sense. No more pooling regen? Huge nerfs to pulling? No more bottle jungling? No heroes on ancients early? Gem costs 900? What does "Evasion stacks diminishingly" even mean?
The Broodmother and Rubick changes are some serious troll changes too.
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On October 18 2013 03:05 Dexington wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/jmmUO78.jpg) The true race car build
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On October 18 2013 03:04 teapoted wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 03:02 theqat wrote:On October 18 2013 03:00 BurningSera wrote:On October 18 2013 02:50 theqat wrote:On October 18 2013 02:49 Targe wrote:On October 18 2013 02:47 theqat wrote:On October 18 2013 02:46 Erasme wrote:On October 18 2013 02:44 Plansix wrote:On October 18 2013 02:41 Erasme wrote: i dont like that patch at all Someone doesn't like change or his cheese being moved. Not really, a lot of these changes don't make any sense I should prolly switch to LoL anyway til dota stops lagging for me You can't just say that things "don't make sense" without being specific. This just makes people think you haven't thought things through at all. It's like saying "the sky is falling" when you haven't seen the impact of the changes yet. What doesn't make sense? there's loads of big changes in there that you could think don't make sense, no need to be specific. Not one person who said "doesn't make sense" has named even a single change they think doesn't make sense. It's a stupid thing to post if you're not going to actually create a discussion about it. too many of them are pure ridiculous. 3mins fly courier limit, to nerf mid bottle crow and icefrog went full retard. Pudge's dagger - why dont they just implement Techies if they wished for serious pub greifing. Just too many. I get it this is the first patch that they purposely tweak and change stuffs based on dota2 engine but the amount of ridicules in the patch are just mindblowing. Not that I hate or like it but this is a whole new game from now on. nerfing bottle crow is going "full retard?" What? Who cares if pudge can get dagger? They made it impossible to trap people with it so it doesn't matter. Contrary to popular belief, nerfing bottle crow will make mid lane a lot less interesting.
Okay, but that doesn't mean it's retarded. Maybe they're trying to de-emphasize mid because it has a drastically greater effect on the game than the other lanes in most cases? Maybe they don't want winning mid to rely on a tedious repetitive task like bottle crowing?
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On October 18 2013 03:05 Dexington wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/jmmUO78.jpg)
best day of my life
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