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IndyO
Profile Joined June 2012
392 Posts
October 17 2013 17:53 GMT
#241
Had a bit more time to think about the patch and its doing my head in.. Really insane patch, not even sure you can try to predict what will come of it o_o
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
October 17 2013 17:53 GMT
#242
On October 18 2013 02:51 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:49 Targe wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:47 theqat wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:46 Erasme wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:44 Plansix wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:41 Erasme wrote:
i dont like that patch at all

Someone doesn't like change or his cheese being moved.

Not really, a lot of these changes don't make any sense
I should prolly switch to LoL anyway til dota stops lagging for me


You can't just say that things "don't make sense" without being specific. This just makes people think you haven't thought things through at all. It's like saying "the sky is falling" when you haven't seen the impact of the changes yet.

What doesn't make sense?

there's loads of big changes in there that you could think don't make sense, no need to be specific.

Ok then. I think the patch is perfect. 100% amazing and every change makes perfect sense. I don't need to be specific, because it's obvious.

way to twist an argument buddy, I said there is plenty in there that you could think didn't make sense meaning you shouldn't need to point out what doesn't make sense.
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noBode
Profile Joined November 2010
Thailand439 Posts
October 17 2013 17:54 GMT
#243
Why are people saying the patch doesn't make sense? Most of the changes seem fine to me in a vacuum, but when bundled altogether in a single patch like this, it's gonna take a while for people to figure out the more subtle differences anyway. No one's gonna be able to just look at the patchnote and know how this patch's gonna pan out in the end.
Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 17:57:21
October 17 2013 17:54 GMT
#244
Alchesmist got destoyed, good ridance

Naix barely touched, still pretty ridiculous

Bat dead, finally

Furion basically not touched ... ? You increase the bounty on treants by absolutely nothing, when those fucking pieces of shit are tanky as hell?

However Shadow blade got nerfed hard so I hope this rat doto shit is dead

LOL at the 0 cd on Skywrath's ult. Unless you're stupidely farmed you'll never have enough mana to support 2 ults anyway

Some other cool changes, like the timber slight nerf. Some changes feel a bit random though.

And some heroes like necrolyte are still shit

EDIT: also, If you manage to farm an Aghanim on Disruptor, shit's freaking ridiculous
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
October 17 2013 17:54 GMT
#245
On October 18 2013 02:51 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:49 Targe wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:47 theqat wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:46 Erasme wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:44 Plansix wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:41 Erasme wrote:
i dont like that patch at all

Someone doesn't like change or his cheese being moved.

Not really, a lot of these changes don't make any sense
I should prolly switch to LoL anyway til dota stops lagging for me


You can't just say that things "don't make sense" without being specific. This just makes people think you haven't thought things through at all. It's like saying "the sky is falling" when you haven't seen the impact of the changes yet.

What doesn't make sense?

there's loads of big changes in there that you could think don't make sense, no need to be specific.

Ok then. I think the patch is perfect. 100% amazing and every change makes perfect sense. I don't need to be specific, because it's obvious.

I'm tempted to say this patch is the combination of things that he wanted to do for a long time but didn't work in WC3 and further attempts for shorter games/more aggression. The combination of increased gold over time, kill bonus, the jungle, 4 minute nighttime and a random factor for roshan basically screams "go fucking fight".
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
October 17 2013 17:55 GMT
#246
On October 18 2013 02:53 Targe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:51 Plansix wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:49 Targe wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:47 theqat wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:46 Erasme wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:44 Plansix wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:41 Erasme wrote:
i dont like that patch at all

Someone doesn't like change or his cheese being moved.

Not really, a lot of these changes don't make any sense
I should prolly switch to LoL anyway til dota stops lagging for me


You can't just say that things "don't make sense" without being specific. This just makes people think you haven't thought things through at all. It's like saying "the sky is falling" when you haven't seen the impact of the changes yet.

What doesn't make sense?

there's loads of big changes in there that you could think don't make sense, no need to be specific.

Ok then. I think the patch is perfect. 100% amazing and every change makes perfect sense. I don't need to be specific, because it's obvious.

way to twist an argument buddy, I said there is plenty in there that you could think didn't make sense meaning you shouldn't need to point out what doesn't make sense.

way to not really make an argument buddy
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 17 2013 17:55 GMT
#247
On October 18 2013 02:50 theqat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:49 Targe wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:47 theqat wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:46 Erasme wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:44 Plansix wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:41 Erasme wrote:
i dont like that patch at all

Someone doesn't like change or his cheese being moved.

Not really, a lot of these changes don't make any sense
I should prolly switch to LoL anyway til dota stops lagging for me


You can't just say that things "don't make sense" without being specific. This just makes people think you haven't thought things through at all. It's like saying "the sky is falling" when you haven't seen the impact of the changes yet.

What doesn't make sense?

there's loads of big changes in there that you could think don't make sense, no need to be specific.


Not one person who said "doesn't make sense" has named even a single change they think doesn't make sense. It's a stupid thing to post if you're not going to actually create a discussion about it.

Pros will find a way. They always do. Trust them to find every drop of Xp they can on the map.
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
October 17 2013 17:55 GMT
#248
On October 18 2013 02:54 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:51 Plansix wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:49 Targe wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:47 theqat wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:46 Erasme wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:44 Plansix wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:41 Erasme wrote:
i dont like that patch at all

Someone doesn't like change or his cheese being moved.

Not really, a lot of these changes don't make any sense
I should prolly switch to LoL anyway til dota stops lagging for me


You can't just say that things "don't make sense" without being specific. This just makes people think you haven't thought things through at all. It's like saying "the sky is falling" when you haven't seen the impact of the changes yet.

What doesn't make sense?

there's loads of big changes in there that you could think don't make sense, no need to be specific.

Ok then. I think the patch is perfect. 100% amazing and every change makes perfect sense. I don't need to be specific, because it's obvious.

I'm tempted to say this patch is the combination of things that he wanted to do for a long time but didn't work in WC3 and further attempts for shorter games/more aggression. The combination of increased gold over time, kill bonus, the jungle, 4 minute nighttime and a random factor for roshan basically screams "go fucking fight".

Yeah, it seems IceFrog wants way more action and less waiting around.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Osiccor
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada128 Posts
October 17 2013 17:55 GMT
#249
On October 18 2013 02:50 Targe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:48 Osiccor wrote:
huge changes:

solo offlanes can do so much against trilane such as courier snipes and steal jungle exp.
is br still a first ban first pick hero?
with rosh change, you now really need vision around the rosh pit and heroes like visage would rule the pit.
laning got a lot more difficult with the regen nerfs
the nerf to buy backs will change the game more drastically now.


you've missed the massive nerf to trilanes


sorry forgot but it is sorta implied when offlaners have a better time.
I think this change will lead to 2 changes:
neither we see more action early game with duo lanes or trilanes with more ganking action because you don't miss out on as much exp as before
or have duo safe lane and a greedy jungle like ls and ursa because there are 2 small camps which makes it easier for these heroes to jungle. Even though the gold and exp are nerfed, because your solo offlane can do so well, jungling will give a bigger gold lead.
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
October 17 2013 17:55 GMT
#250
On October 18 2013 02:53 Targe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:51 Plansix wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:49 Targe wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:47 theqat wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:46 Erasme wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:44 Plansix wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:41 Erasme wrote:
i dont like that patch at all

Someone doesn't like change or his cheese being moved.

Not really, a lot of these changes don't make any sense
I should prolly switch to LoL anyway til dota stops lagging for me


You can't just say that things "don't make sense" without being specific. This just makes people think you haven't thought things through at all. It's like saying "the sky is falling" when you haven't seen the impact of the changes yet.

What doesn't make sense?

there's loads of big changes in there that you could think don't make sense, no need to be specific.

Ok then. I think the patch is perfect. 100% amazing and every change makes perfect sense. I don't need to be specific, because it's obvious.

way to twist an argument buddy, I said there is plenty in there that you could think didn't make sense meaning you shouldn't need to point out what doesn't make sense.


Well clearly not everyone agrees on which changes make sense, which is why we'd like to have an actual discussion about it instead of people going "welp, don't like patch, fuck dota/it's fake"
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
October 17 2013 17:55 GMT
#251
On October 18 2013 02:51 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:49 Targe wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:47 theqat wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:46 Erasme wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:44 Plansix wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:41 Erasme wrote:
i dont like that patch at all

Someone doesn't like change or his cheese being moved.

Not really, a lot of these changes don't make any sense
I should prolly switch to LoL anyway til dota stops lagging for me


You can't just say that things "don't make sense" without being specific. This just makes people think you haven't thought things through at all. It's like saying "the sky is falling" when you haven't seen the impact of the changes yet.

What doesn't make sense?

there's loads of big changes in there that you could think don't make sense, no need to be specific.

Ok then. I think the patch is perfect. 100% amazing and every change makes perfect sense. I don't need to be specific, because it's obvious.

Too bad that some opinions matter more than others :p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 17:56:19
October 17 2013 17:55 GMT
#252
On October 18 2013 02:51 lightsentry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:48 Osiccor wrote:
huge changes:

solo offlanes can do so much against trilane such as courier snipes and steal jungle exp.
is br still a first ban first pick hero?
with rosh change, you now really need vision around the rosh pit and heroes like visage would rule the pit.
laning got a lot more difficult with the regen nerfs
the nerf to buy backs will change the game more drastically now.


I don't see how courier snipes are easier now, wasn't it just buffs for the walking courier?


In paper, it seems to be fairly easy to kill 75 hp walking courier before three minutes, even with the HP and speed increase.

Flying Courier
- Cannot be purchased until 3 minutes after creeps spawn
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
October 17 2013 17:56 GMT
#253
So many changes! I'm scared!
Bora Pain minha porra!
pedrotrv
Profile Joined August 2010
Brazil117 Posts
October 17 2013 17:56 GMT
#254
Well...

Patch to only Dota 2 heroes?

Where are the WC3 DotA heroes?

Sick patch, if its real. It will be interesting.
woot.
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
October 17 2013 17:56 GMT
#255
On October 18 2013 02:54 Fatalize wrote:
Alchesmist got destoyed, good ridance

Naix barely touched, still pretty ridiculous

Bat dead, finally

Furion basically not touched ... ? You increase the bounty on treants by absolutely nothing, when those fucking pieces of shit are tanky as hell?

However Shadow blade got nerfed hard so I hope this rat doto shit is dead

LOL at the 0 cd on Skywrath's ult. Unless you're stupidely farmed you'll never have enough mana to support 2 ults anyway

Some other cool changes, like the timber slight nerf. Some changes feel a bit random though.

And some heroes like necrolyte are still shit

I don't think this changes bat a ton ... I mean, lasso is harder to hit, but getting that bit closer shouldn't make bat useless, nor should the change to his base damage, considering his mostly ran in the jungle now-a-days.
https://soundcloud.com/papercranesdk
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 17 2013 17:56 GMT
#256
On October 18 2013 02:54 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:51 Plansix wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:49 Targe wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:47 theqat wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:46 Erasme wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:44 Plansix wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:41 Erasme wrote:
i dont like that patch at all

Someone doesn't like change or his cheese being moved.

Not really, a lot of these changes don't make any sense
I should prolly switch to LoL anyway til dota stops lagging for me


You can't just say that things "don't make sense" without being specific. This just makes people think you haven't thought things through at all. It's like saying "the sky is falling" when you haven't seen the impact of the changes yet.

What doesn't make sense?

there's loads of big changes in there that you could think don't make sense, no need to be specific.

Ok then. I think the patch is perfect. 100% amazing and every change makes perfect sense. I don't need to be specific, because it's obvious.

I'm tempted to say this patch is the combination of things that he wanted to do for a long time but didn't work in WC3 and further attempts for shorter games/more aggression. The combination of increased gold over time, kill bonus, the jungle, 4 minute nighttime and a random factor for roshan basically screams "go fucking fight".

Seriously. This patch reads to me like "I GAVE YOU ALL THIS GREAT GIFT OF A GAME AND YALL FUCK IT UP ON ME. NO MORE. YOU WILL FIGHT. AND YOU WILL LIKE IT."
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
October 17 2013 17:56 GMT
#257
On October 18 2013 02:55 Testuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:53 Targe wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:51 Plansix wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:49 Targe wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:47 theqat wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:46 Erasme wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:44 Plansix wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:41 Erasme wrote:
i dont like that patch at all

Someone doesn't like change or his cheese being moved.

Not really, a lot of these changes don't make any sense
I should prolly switch to LoL anyway til dota stops lagging for me


You can't just say that things "don't make sense" without being specific. This just makes people think you haven't thought things through at all. It's like saying "the sky is falling" when you haven't seen the impact of the changes yet.

What doesn't make sense?

there's loads of big changes in there that you could think don't make sense, no need to be specific.

Ok then. I think the patch is perfect. 100% amazing and every change makes perfect sense. I don't need to be specific, because it's obvious.

way to twist an argument buddy, I said there is plenty in there that you could think didn't make sense meaning you shouldn't need to point out what doesn't make sense.

way to not really make an argument buddy

You don't understand, I like that patch, I think it's really cool.
I'm just saying that there are enough big changes that you could conceive the patch to not make sense, that is my argument.

But you people are desperate to argue with every person that seems to be bashing the changes.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
October 17 2013 17:57 GMT
#258
it cant be real, no way.
SWolf
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands17 Posts
October 17 2013 17:57 GMT
#259
I hope it's fake.
I don't like alot of these changes.
mutantmagnet
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3789 Posts
October 17 2013 17:57 GMT
#260
Welcome to the new world order.

Spectre is viable as mid.

Viper can offlane.

Bloodseeker is space cow 2.0

Meepo's ultimate unlocks at level 4.

Aghanim's sceptre makes a ton of heroes viable as a #2 position.

If you want to share consumables you better be in lane.

If you want that jungle XP you need absolute control of that area.

More abilities require skill shots.

This. Is. Dota.
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