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theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
October 17 2013 17:47 GMT
#221
On October 18 2013 02:46 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:44 Plansix wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:41 Erasme wrote:
i dont like that patch at all

Someone doesn't like change or his cheese being moved.

Not really, a lot of these changes don't make any sense
I should prolly switch to LoL anyway til dota stops lagging for me


You can't just say that things "don't make sense" without being specific. This just makes people think you haven't thought things through at all. It's like saying "the sky is falling" when you haven't seen the impact of the changes yet.

What doesn't make sense?
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
October 17 2013 17:47 GMT
#222
On October 18 2013 02:46 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:43 Yoshi- wrote:
Fun Fact people have been saying "back to 2-1-2" since trilanes started

Yeah, if anything 2-1-2 might be an option now. But tri lanes are just to good to give up.

maybe 1-1-2 (1) with a roaming support but you can't sustain two supports' experience levels on a small camp and a pull through. especially since it's not super likely that you'll even kill off the whole creep wave that way. pulling might just be a pushing measure now, interestingly enough.
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
October 17 2013 17:47 GMT
#223
On October 18 2013 02:46 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:43 Ryuu314 wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:42 trinxified wrote:
Anyone confirm this yet?!

I like some of the changes, but the others are just way TOO big to be changed now.

Notes were posted on Valve dev forum. Unless April Fool's came early from Valve, this is legit.

http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=109826

Icefrog Weibo confirmed.

http://t.qq.com/p/t/316437025509766

some people don't read the thread
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
OrchidThief
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark2298 Posts
October 17 2013 17:48 GMT
#224
Glad they further nerfed Io/Batrider. A bit of a strange Slark change though, Slark hasn't exactly been dominating or anything. Shadow Blade nerf is a nerf to NP too, so he seems to have been toned down quite a bit.
Osiccor
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada128 Posts
October 17 2013 17:48 GMT
#225
huge changes:

solo offlanes can do so much against trilane such as courier snipes and steal jungle exp.
is br still a first ban first pick hero?
with rosh change, you now really need vision around the rosh pit and heroes like visage would rule the pit.
laning got a lot more difficult with the regen nerfs
the nerf to buy backs will change the game more drastically now.

Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
October 17 2013 17:49 GMT
#226
On October 18 2013 02:47 theqat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:46 Erasme wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:44 Plansix wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:41 Erasme wrote:
i dont like that patch at all

Someone doesn't like change or his cheese being moved.

Not really, a lot of these changes don't make any sense
I should prolly switch to LoL anyway til dota stops lagging for me


You can't just say that things "don't make sense" without being specific. This just makes people think you haven't thought things through at all. It's like saying "the sky is falling" when you haven't seen the impact of the changes yet.

What doesn't make sense?

there's loads of big changes in there that you could think don't make sense, no need to be specific.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
October 17 2013 17:49 GMT
#227
- Broodmother now has completely unobstructed movement when under the web (can walk over cliffs, trees, etc)
is this real life
:)
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 17 2013 17:50 GMT
#228
On October 18 2013 02:46 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:44 Plansix wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:41 Erasme wrote:
i dont like that patch at all

Someone doesn't like change or his cheese being moved.

Not really, a lot of these changes don't make any sense
I should prolly switch to LoL anyway til dota stops lagging for me

Good, then I won't feed you in the inhouse games and get yelled at for it.

But the game needed spicing up. A lot of the changes are fun and let people play new stuff. We don't want to be like SC2 where all the games focus on the same thing every game.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
October 17 2013 17:50 GMT
#229
On October 18 2013 02:48 Osiccor wrote:
huge changes:

solo offlanes can do so much against trilane such as courier snipes and steal jungle exp.
is br still a first ban first pick hero?
with rosh change, you now really need vision around the rosh pit and heroes like visage would rule the pit.
laning got a lot more difficult with the regen nerfs
the nerf to buy backs will change the game more drastically now.


you've missed the massive nerf to trilanes
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
October 17 2013 17:50 GMT
#230
Wait a minute... is a a minute cooldown to use a tango to eat a tree each time or only a minute cooldown to give a charge to someone else?!?!
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
October 17 2013 17:50 GMT
#231
On October 18 2013 02:49 Targe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:47 theqat wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:46 Erasme wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:44 Plansix wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:41 Erasme wrote:
i dont like that patch at all

Someone doesn't like change or his cheese being moved.

Not really, a lot of these changes don't make any sense
I should prolly switch to LoL anyway til dota stops lagging for me


You can't just say that things "don't make sense" without being specific. This just makes people think you haven't thought things through at all. It's like saying "the sky is falling" when you haven't seen the impact of the changes yet.

What doesn't make sense?

there's loads of big changes in there that you could think don't make sense, no need to be specific.


Not one person who said "doesn't make sense" has named even a single change they think doesn't make sense. It's a stupid thing to post if you're not going to actually create a discussion about it.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
October 17 2013 17:50 GMT
#232
On October 18 2013 02:47 Targe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:46 r.Evo wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:43 Ryuu314 wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:42 trinxified wrote:
Anyone confirm this yet?!

I like some of the changes, but the others are just way TOO big to be changed now.

Notes were posted on Valve dev forum. Unless April Fool's came early from Valve, this is legit.

http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=109826

Icefrog Weibo confirmed.

http://t.qq.com/p/t/316437025509766

some people don't read the thread


Why what does it mean?
lightsentry
Profile Joined May 2011
413 Posts
October 17 2013 17:51 GMT
#233
On October 18 2013 02:48 Osiccor wrote:
huge changes:

solo offlanes can do so much against trilane such as courier snipes and steal jungle exp.
is br still a first ban first pick hero?
with rosh change, you now really need vision around the rosh pit and heroes like visage would rule the pit.
laning got a lot more difficult with the regen nerfs
the nerf to buy backs will change the game more drastically now.


I don't see how courier snipes are easier now, wasn't it just buffs for the walking courier?
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
October 17 2013 17:51 GMT
#234
On October 18 2013 02:50 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:47 Targe wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:46 r.Evo wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:43 Ryuu314 wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:42 trinxified wrote:
Anyone confirm this yet?!

I like some of the changes, but the others are just way TOO big to be changed now.

Notes were posted on Valve dev forum. Unless April Fool's came early from Valve, this is legit.

http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=109826

Icefrog Weibo confirmed.

http://t.qq.com/p/t/316437025509766

some people don't read the thread


Why what does it mean?

It was posted earlier in the thread, it's IceFrog confirming the changes on weibo.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
soverRR
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden348 Posts
October 17 2013 17:51 GMT
#235
Bat, Wisp, Troll, ET, Barathrum huge nerfs

Jungling nerfed

Shadow Blade nerfed

Brood buffed

Best. Patch. Ever.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 17 2013 17:51 GMT
#236
On October 18 2013 02:49 Targe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:47 theqat wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:46 Erasme wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:44 Plansix wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:41 Erasme wrote:
i dont like that patch at all

Someone doesn't like change or his cheese being moved.

Not really, a lot of these changes don't make any sense
I should prolly switch to LoL anyway til dota stops lagging for me


You can't just say that things "don't make sense" without being specific. This just makes people think you haven't thought things through at all. It's like saying "the sky is falling" when you haven't seen the impact of the changes yet.

What doesn't make sense?

there's loads of big changes in there that you could think don't make sense, no need to be specific.

Ok then. I think the patch is perfect. 100% amazing and every change makes perfect sense. I don't need to be specific, because it's obvious.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
lightsentry
Profile Joined May 2011
413 Posts
October 17 2013 17:52 GMT
#237
On October 18 2013 02:50 Gentso wrote:
Wait a minute... is a a minute cooldown to use a tango to eat a tree each time or only a minute cooldown to give a charge to someone else?!?!

I think if you target someone with your tango it creates a separate "tango" item in their inventory and that item has a 60s cooldown
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
October 17 2013 17:52 GMT
#238
On October 18 2013 02:50 Gentso wrote:
Wait a minute... is a a minute cooldown to use a tango to eat a tree each time or only a minute cooldown to give a charge to someone else?!?!

The CD is for giving it to someone else.

Also, it'll be interesting to see how teams will do in the future, since this means pulling is basically over. Or well, you just can't pull a ton to your carry anymore.
https://soundcloud.com/papercranesdk
bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
October 17 2013 17:52 GMT
#239
On October 18 2013 02:41 Stancel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:38 r.Evo wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:36 Plansix wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:34 cecek wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:33 Plansix wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:30 LaLuSh wrote:
this seems insane

Seem standard for Icefrog. Everything is new.

This is not standard even for IceFrog.

"- Added Aghanim's upgrade: Static Storm silences items, and lasts an extra 2 seconds"
7 seconds AoE Doom. Because fuck you, that's why.

It's majestic. Everything is buffed and everything is awesome and stupid.

After the initial shock I'm with you.

Icefrog. <3


I am the 1%

if this is real, cya dota2 time to play WoW full time


or go full time lich with the buffs XD
ELqQQT_T
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
October 17 2013 17:53 GMT
#240
The dire jungle is now even better, than before
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