Team Liquid Dota 2 Power Rank - April 2014 - Page 6

On April 08 2014 11:29 TanGeng wrote:
Gotta echo this:

On April 08 2014 10:37 andyrau wrote:

uh then they stomped the shit out of tl in d2l


again, point is it's not completely inconceivable for someone to put them over eg in a ranking, especially if you consider that he ranks c9 below simply off a head to head winrate.
eg hasn't even played na'vi or alliance, whereas c9 has beat both teams, albeit in a small online sample size. not saying that eg is necessarily a worse team due to lack of sampling, but I could see the reasoning for ranking c9 > eg

how the hell could you put C9 over EG? They just continue to smash them head to head and they do just as well, if not better against other teams...

On April 08 2014 12:21 thebig1 wrote:
Dunno why I bother to read these comments, it's always just people trying to troll each other...


I think how you rank teams can be done by how well they have been doing, or how well you expect them to do going forward. Dwelling on that past seems to make the rankings kinda redundant, because well.. anyone can look at stats and try and bend them to whatever ranking they want... just going to cause arguments.

With that it mind I think EG's ranking is inflated a little more than it should be. EG was a "new" team, playing a "new" style of DotA, and the EU teams didn't really have any reason to study them. Yes they should have in the way that all teams should study other hot teams, but if it's not immediately important it doesn't tend to happen. It's not a unique phenomenon, and it's something that happens quite often in games. It happened with SIGMA, where they played a fairly specific style of early game DotA, and people (for some reason) jumped all over how good they were. Fast forward a few months, their style got figured out, and look where they are now.
Not that I really expect that to happen to EG in the same way as it did to SIGMA. I suspect they will be more way flexible than that, and things will just settle down some. Just food for through I guess?

That said, I would be hard pressed to actually rank a top 5. C9 seems to perform randomly (From #1 to #wtf?) based on the league they are playing, Fnatic is in the same inconsistent spot they always are, and Alliance just kinda seems lost somehow?

Also, we're really bagging on C9 that hard for losing to TL, when EG has come extremely close to losing important series to them? I'm not sure, but it might even be the same total amount of games lost?

Additional random though: I have seen a large amount of EE bashing lately, largely surrounding how greedy he can be, and how he can sometimes feed and lose games for his team. These are the same criticisms that XBOCT was facing a year ago before he toned things down and people starting calling him amazing. Is history going to repeat itself? Will be fun to watch.

On April 08 2014 12:16 jmbthirteen wrote:

No, i didn't do it simply off head to head. Go back and read my post.



EG has just been playing better than C9. EG has won three different tournaments over the last 2ish months. C9 hasn't won any. C9 was in those tournaments too. Not to mention C9 flamed out of MLG TKO by losing to TL... TL...

On April 08 2014 15:04 andyrau wrote:
as a sidenote I'd probably put eg over c9 too, simply because of consistency. c9 is amazing one game and awful another.

Na`Vi seems like the only team nonplussed unfazed by all the changes to retain their own style of Dota.

On April 08 2014 16:10 Jragon wrote:
As well you guys getting it all completely wrong as usual,

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