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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-09 23:00:30
April 07 2014 16:15 GMT
#1


Our Power Rank is back, and at an exciting time at that! With so many leagues and tournaments going on, it can sometimes be difficult to say who is at the very top of the Dota scene, and yet, in this month's Power Rank, we've made the tough calls.

This will be a controversial PR, and we not only welcome your comments, criticisms and qq, but encourage it! Arguing over the Power Rank is a hallowed Team Liquid tradition, and we're all for everyone coming up with their own ranks and breaking down the lists of others.

Without further ado then, here's the TL Dota 2 April 2014 Power Rank!




China/SEA Power Rank



1.

Team DK

The Beast from the East, DK is without a doubt the strongest team in Asia and possibly the world. Their strength lies not just in the assortment of superstars in a single lineup, but in the fact that the team believes in its own strength and trusts in each other to a degree that one would not generally associate with a chorus of huge names and giant egos. This has led to the team having some of the best farm-allocation of any pro-team, as well as fantastic coordination in teamfights.

Taking home the Sina Cup, DK has a record of 17-8 in 6.80 against the best of China. While the team dominates as hard as any other when things are going smoothly, it’s the way the machine plays from behind that makes them the undisputed early favorite on the road to TI4.


2.

Invictus Gaming

On paper, the current iG roster is just as strong as that of DK; Luo, YYF, and 430 are all at the top of their game in their respective roles. However, the team hasn't quite pieced everything together, and they have yet to showcase the level of fluidity and flexibility that DK has. The team tends to be very tempo based as they like to play an aggressive midgame with their mid and support heroes engaging in frequent skirmishes.

Their 24-10 record in 6.80 is a little inflated by their Netolic cup results (which DK did not participate in) but still showcases a team that's hot on the heels of DK. Their style looks very sharp and deadly when successfully executed, but lies on an edge in which slightly inferior farm allocation and lack of full commitment in the midgame puts the supports far behind, making comebacks hard to achieve should they lose the early game.



3.

Vici Gaming

Between iG/DK and VG/Newbee there exists a small yet crucial gap in individual skill. As a whole VG has fallen off quite a bit since their victories last winter. Their flamboyant, overly aggressive style has been reined in both by 6.80 and other teams adapting to the new flow of the game. The team is still a constant threat to the other top teams, but their style of Dota suffers from its inherent risky nature that does not lend well to best-of-5 series.

17-13 is a middling record that is really better than it looks, with a close 3-2 loss to DK in the Sina cup finals. Right now we have a team that is on the cusp of greatness, but without any clear idea as to how to take the next step.



4.

NewBee

There was a great deal of hype for the new ‘Dream Team’ when they were first announced. Unfortunately, most of it died down when they acquired the solid but uninspiring veterans KingJ and Banana, and whatever was left after that disappeared with the team's debut fiasco in Sina Cup as they bombed out against amateur teams.

Since then, the team has come quite some way, and the issue of conflicting positions has mostly been solved despite some remaining unease. After dismantling LGD in WPC, NewBee has taken a solid step up the ladder of Chinese Dota, but their lopsided record against DK and iG doesn't bode well for the team's future unless they make another breakthrough.



5.

LGD
LGD has fallen far since their D2L win in the middle of winter. The departure of iconic captain Xiao8 has put the team and brand in a do or die position, and the direct TI4 invite that was once taken for granted is quickly fading in the horizon. Icy is a solid player, but he provides neither the soul nor face that the team desperately needs.

Crowned by a pair of crushing defeats from iG and NewBee in recent days, 14-13 is simply not a good record. LGD is slowly becoming the gatekeeper that still beats amateur teams handily but is utterly impotent against the other members of the big 5.







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EU/NA Power Rank


While the Eastern PR had our staff smiling and shaking hands with each other, our Western counterpart was a bloody and merciless battle. We look forward to having you all join us in the pitchforking of each other’s incorrect opinions.

1.

Na`Vi
We’re not gonna lie - we really argued this one out. In the end, however, Na`Vi retains their top spot via various flashes of brilliance as well as a solid win over Alliance in their last encounter. Admittedly, the team's play has recently oscillated between their typical brilliance and some utterly horrendous showings. However, with the entire Western scene in a state of complete chaos, Na`Vi seems like the only team unfazed by all the changes to retain their own style of Dota.

Even with their schedule slightly disrupted last month by Dendi's trip to the States for the Free-To-Play premier and a general break for the team, Na`Vi retains much of the magic they've always had. Sitting in the finals of the XMG CD Invitational with relatively blank slates in both Starladder and Dreamleague, Na`Vi is likely to return in force as they refocus. While 23-18 isn't a great record for a team that we’re claiming to be #1, it is interesting to note that half of those losses came from the MLG TKO league, an event that the team has approached with what appeared to be complete abandon.


2.

Team Empire
Several of us actually felt Empire deserved the first place position, and if online results over the last month was the only thing we evaluated by, Empire would be hands-down the best team in the world. However, in a scene notorious for instability, it feels impossible to give Empire a well-deserved first place without first seeing them in action on LAN. The core style of the team often relies on a gank-based 4-1 that comes alive in the midgame to crush their opponents with overwhelming force. This kind of momentum-based play is indeed absurdly strong when working as intended, but as their series vs C9 showed in the D2CL semifinals, it doesn't work the best when put on the back foot.

With a monstrous 60-17 record in 6.80, Empire is expected to sail smoothly into the LAN finals of both Dreamleague and Starladder. Those will be the events that tell us whether the current Empire is a force to be reckoned with on the road to TI4, or whether they are merely a clone of the Empire of yesteryear.


3.

Evil Geniuses
EG's true skill level is very much obscured by their inconsistency and infrequent contact with the top European teams. They have a style that tends to rely on dual cores, and many EG games end up coming down to whether or not A-God wins his lanes (which he admittedly does more often than not) as the team reliably moves into a comfortable midgame with a pair of very farmed carries decimating the opposition. These setups rely very much on the early game momentum and the ability to deflect pressure on the midlane, two factors for which there's no guarantee the team will always be able to maintain.

Truth be told, being able to destroy the NA opposition with a 61 - 13 record doesn't really mean all that much for a team seeking to compete at a global level, but it does showcase what they are capable of. The evaluation has since become even murkier with Fear's injury-related absence. With the team’s top potential shrouded until LAN, we can at least watch the best (real) NA team perform at the top level, even without old-man-Fear watching their backs.


4.

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Yes, our reigning world champions are not at their best, and yes, they did lose their D2CL Semi Finals match to Na`Vi. However, they only did so in a hard fought bo5 that went to a fifth game.

One of the main criticisms of Alliance is that they haven’t adapted well to 6.80, and while they certainly have needed time to adapt during the 2013 - 2014 season, they still are one of the highest individual skill teams. It is also important to consider that a new patch is likely on the cards before TI4, making their diminished performance on 6.80 slightly less concerning. As defending champions, they are guaranteed an invite to TI4, and what will be crucial is how they do on 6.81.


5.

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Still the epitome of greed and the sworn enemy of BKBs, C9 is an interesting team, and the fact that they are both capable of defeating Empire and losing to TL in equally decisive fashion makes them exceedingly difficult to rank. With a 50-30 record, C9 is probably the most unpredictable team in the world, with no real pattern to their results. It seems like teams that grapple with C9 regularly, most notably EG, seem to have the team's number, while unprepared teams are often swept away by EEkami's wrath. A set of eclectic characters with a large fanbase, C9 certainly makes heads turn.










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Contributors: kupon3ss, shostakovich, Tephus, k-poptosis
Gfx: shirousagi, heyoka, miwi
Editors: Firebolt145, riptide

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Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
April 07 2014 16:20 GMT
#2
Nice but I thought c9 would be above alliance at least.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
fusefuse
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Estonia4644 Posts
April 07 2014 16:23 GMT
#3
ffs you guys got it all wrong AGAIN
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shostakovich
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Brazil1429 Posts
April 07 2014 16:24 GMT
#4
Empire is 5-0 against Na'Vi this year so I placed them first on my PR.
riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
April 07 2014 16:25 GMT
#5
All I gotta say is, DK #1. But you knew that.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 07 2014 16:29 GMT
#6
Holy shit I summoned a power rank :D
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Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
April 07 2014 16:30 GMT
#7
Has EG really played that many games, or are you including games played under the previous banner?

Either way, I think its way too early to give EG such a high ranking. Every team that breaks into the scene literally has the same trajectory (like sigma, fnatic circa late 2011, early Kaipi), where they win hell of a lot of games before teams figure them out and then they go into a losing streak before stabilizing.
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mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
April 07 2014 16:35 GMT
#8
Empire have fallen off lately so I think it's only fair that they get 2nd spot. All in all awesome power rank I think! All teams in Europe showing inconsistency but signs of absolutely brilliant play, but I still feel that once TI4 comes around Alliance and Na'vi will dominate, and have a real shot at beating DK.

My biggest hope for TI4 is a Na'vi vs DK finals. Doesn't matter who wins and I'm happy with that finals! :D
@Munck
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
April 07 2014 16:40 GMT
#9
On April 08 2014 01:30 Piledriver wrote:
Has EG really played that many games, or are you including games played under the previous banner?

Either way, I think its way too early to give EG such a high ranking. Every team that breaks into the scene literally has the same trajectory (like sigma, fnatic circa late 2011, early Kaipi), where they win hell of a lot of games before teams figure them out and then they go into a losing streak before stabilizing.


Yes, it includes the 22-0 of Sadboys against mostly medicore NA competition

since EG is based on USW now, they rarely play against top European teams, which is one of the reasons for its lopsided winrate.
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 07 2014 16:43 GMT
#10
On April 08 2014 01:40 Kupon3ss wrote:
Yes, it includes the 22-0 of Sadboys against mostly medicore NA competitionEmpire at the height of their untouchable streak online

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VonHausen
Profile Joined November 2011
Italy28 Posts
April 07 2014 16:48 GMT
#11
I really like the way EG have been playing, maybe I would even put them 2nd.
And I would switch C9 with fnatic but maybe I'm biased
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Sunfish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria162 Posts
April 07 2014 16:48 GMT
#12
On April 08 2014 01:40 Kupon3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 01:30 Piledriver wrote:
Has EG really played that many games, or are you including games played under the previous banner?

Either way, I think its way too early to give EG such a high ranking. Every team that breaks into the scene literally has the same trajectory (like sigma, fnatic circa late 2011, early Kaipi), where they win hell of a lot of games before teams figure them out and then they go into a losing streak before stabilizing.


Yes, it includes the 22-0 of Sadboys against mostly medicore NA competition

since EG is based on USW now, they rarely play against top European teams, which is one of the reasons for its lopsided winrate.


Lol I think it's far past time to give Evil Geniuses this ranking. Also, Evil Geniuses is (at least) 5-0 against Empire in recent games, I believe (three of which were played as SADBOYS). Still, no reason to give them a top spot until they play Na'Vi this week in the D2L.
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.yo
Profile Joined December 2013
United States29 Posts
April 07 2014 16:49 GMT
#13
I find the difference between agreement about the rankings between the two scenes fascinating.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 07 2014 16:50 GMT
#14
I'm at least semi-surprised that titan didn't get the nod over LGD from at least one person in the east considering their run in WPC or w/e but I guess they did lose to all the good teams except iG with a standin. Describing their loss to DK as "losing to SPG.cn with 2 standins" while hilarious is also dumb since, well, B-god.
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Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
April 07 2014 16:51 GMT
#15
dont agree with western 3-5, EG should be 5th and the others move up a spot - EG's played ALOT against other NA teams (we all know NA is a weaker scene) and we dont know if they can stay on top of their game. Alot of teams that were recently recruited/formed start good and fall off soon after. Think #3 is too high for now.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 07 2014 16:53 GMT
#16
Lol, C9, greed and sworn enemies of BKBs, well played.

And NaVi is on top, so of course I agree.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 16:54:31
April 07 2014 16:53 GMT
#17
On April 08 2014 01:51 Koerage wrote:
dont agree with western 3-5, EG should be 5th and the others move up a spot - EG's played ALOT against other NA teams (we all know NA is a weaker scene) and we dont know if they can stay on top of their game. Alot of teams that were recently recruited/formed start good and fall off soon after. Think #3 is too high for now.

Amusingly, C9 have won convincingly over most top EU teams while they are losing to the NA scene.
Also EG's few games vs EU have been pretty solid.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 07 2014 17:00 GMT
#18
On April 08 2014 01:53 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 01:51 Koerage wrote:
dont agree with western 3-5, EG should be 5th and the others move up a spot - EG's played ALOT against other NA teams (we all know NA is a weaker scene) and we dont know if they can stay on top of their game. Alot of teams that were recently recruited/formed start good and fall off soon after. Think #3 is too high for now.

Amusingly, C9 have won convincingly over most top EU teams while they are losing to the NA scene.
Also EG's few games vs EU have been pretty solid.

Yeah, c9 is to much of a wild card to be higher than 5. The post says it all with beating empire and getting crushed by liquid.
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nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
April 07 2014 17:02 GMT
#19
I feel like eg and cloud9 are actually above the european teams right now, we'll see though!
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
April 07 2014 17:04 GMT
#20
ROFL how is ig #2 LOL i mean this one is pretty good but ig over vg is hilarious
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