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plgElwood
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany518 Posts
August 10 2013 11:24 GMT
#41
I got D2 after sc2 and have to say it is boring as shit if you play with someone who knows the game well
(lots if clicking and running, skipping story, no atmosphere..). Just because it was "the game" when you were 12, don´t hype it now....
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
August 10 2013 11:40 GMT
#42
On August 10 2013 20:24 plgElwood wrote:
I got D2 after sc2 and have to say it is boring as shit if you play with someone who knows the game well
(lots if clicking and running, skipping story, no atmosphere..). Just because it was "the game" when you were 12, don´t hype it now....



lost of clicking and running in a computer game....really? If you play sc2 with someone you know it's going to be boring build orders that they've read on a website or copied from some pro player...not to mention lost of clicking and tapping on the keyboard.
d2 had waaay more atmosphere than d3. a lot of it in part due to the music and the darker,gothic graphic style.
plgElwood
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany518 Posts
August 10 2013 12:19 GMT
#43
On August 10 2013 20:40 dartoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 20:24 plgElwood wrote:
I got D2 after sc2 and have to say it is boring as shit if you play with someone who knows the game well
(lots if clicking and running, skipping story, no atmosphere..). Just because it was "the game" when you were 12, don´t hype it now....



lost of clicking and running in a computer game....really? If you play sc2 with someone you know it's going to be boring build orders that they've read on a website or copied from some pro player...not to mention lost of clicking and tapping on the keyboard.
d2 had waaay more atmosphere than d3. a lot of it in part due to the music and the darker,gothic graphic style.



Yeah, i played d2 first with a guy who played it to death when it was released. We were hyping up to D3 release. So he kind of rushes through all the boring starting-stuff, and you dont get to read quests, or listen to anything.. all you do is running with map overlay trying not to get behind. Afterwards I played some time with another friend new to D2 (in 2012 :D ) was way more fun, because i finally cought some of the atmosphere and story and names of NPCs.
But if you got used to it, it often repeats itself, (I agree D2 LoD - Acts feeel very difffrent form one another !).
Boss fights are okay, but running over a plain 100000 times is just boring.

The concepts of WC,WoW, D and SC are repeated. They are iconic games in their genre. They are not perfect, but hyped, never touched, never questioned. They are raised on a godly level by every one who played them when they were entirely new. These games also had flaws, but they did not matter becaue the game itself was genre-defining. So the flaws were accepted easily.
Most people look back, to find everything in the past was better and judge the current Games/Movies etc. on that base.
It´s sad that time sometimes takes away the "magic" of things.
If there is no change they complain "rip off" and minor changes are "Killing the game". Big changes....not to speak of them..
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
VAGZ
Profile Joined September 2010
574 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 00:14:27
August 11 2013 00:14 GMT
#44
wrong thread
okinoki
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany103 Posts
August 14 2013 14:41 GMT
#45
Soooo it's the expansion "Reaper of Souls"?!

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/reaper-of-souls/
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Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
August 14 2013 16:47 GMT
#46
Yeah.
Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
August 14 2013 23:40 GMT
#47
Death is spreading it's wings over everyone, eh?

That can only mean one thing: a ladder reset!

right?!!?
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
August 15 2013 00:22 GMT
#48
On August 14 2013 23:41 okinoki wrote:
Soooo it's the expansion "Reaper of Souls"?!

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/reaper-of-souls/

my hype is in the negatives
Mistakes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1102 Posts
August 15 2013 00:35 GMT
#49
I'm pretty stoked. :D
I still really like Diablo 3 although it is noticeably worse than Diablo 2.
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Reasonable
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine1432 Posts
August 15 2013 06:08 GMT
#50
Elder Scrolls Online are on the way this spring, so eh... I don't know about D3 exp. Spending another 200 hours in a monotonous grind is not too appealing, while ESO trailer looks quite amazing.
Ahzz
Profile Joined May 2007
Finland780 Posts
August 15 2013 09:23 GMT
#51
they better get this right. they better.
Langjai
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4 Posts
August 15 2013 21:18 GMT
#52
Well considering that the original Diablo 2 was actually quite terrible and was only fixed after Lord of Destruction came out, I'm hoping that this coming expansion will do the same to this game as well. Seeing as how they haven't actually put out any new content patches for D3, I'm assuming they have the majority of the team working on the new expansion thats coming out next. The biggest thing they need to look into is the itemization and fixing all the boring affixes that they have now and making the useless ones more appealing.
Avs
Profile Joined November 2010
Korea (North)857 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 21:21:17
August 15 2013 21:20 GMT
#53
On August 04 2013 19:02 Seiniyta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 10:12 Torte de Lini wrote:
I don't even know how they can entice and bring back burned consumers? I'm interested in seeing the expansion, but honestly; D3 has remained on my shelf as the biggest purchase I've made this year.

I mean... what can they do to make the game so much more fulfilling?


They've already improved the game a lot since launch. You should definitly check it out again. And remember, only a small minority of the 12 million pc sales complained. It's telling that still over a million people play this game every month. that's a pretty big number. Also, Loot 2.0 is coming a bit after Blizzcon (patch 1.09) Or before that which should make it a lot more interesting. Also, if the expansion fixes a lot of the more harder to repair stuff (the story in the expansion being decent) etc sure. They can bring a lot of consumers back.


I don't know, the story got pretty fucked pretty fast in D3. Sure you can salvage it but that's like writing some bullshit to cover some bullshit, it takes more than a single expansion to fix the plot holes. I think most people who've stopped are either done with D3 or waiting for some sort of magical patch that fixes everything and gives them a reason to start over once again. Just look how dead this forum has become.
kudlaty_true
Profile Joined November 2009
Poland158 Posts
August 20 2013 10:50 GMT
#54
On August 16 2013 06:20 Avs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 19:02 Seiniyta wrote:
On August 02 2013 10:12 Torte de Lini wrote:
I don't even know how they can entice and bring back burned consumers? I'm interested in seeing the expansion, but honestly; D3 has remained on my shelf as the biggest purchase I've made this year.

I mean... what can they do to make the game so much more fulfilling?


They've already improved the game a lot since launch. You should definitly check it out again. And remember, only a small minority of the 12 million pc sales complained. It's telling that still over a million people play this game every month. that's a pretty big number. Also, Loot 2.0 is coming a bit after Blizzcon (patch 1.09) Or before that which should make it a lot more interesting. Also, if the expansion fixes a lot of the more harder to repair stuff (the story in the expansion being decent) etc sure. They can bring a lot of consumers back.


I don't know, the story got pretty fucked pretty fast in D3. Sure you can salvage it but that's like writing some bullshit to cover some bullshit, it takes more than a single expansion to fix the plot holes. I think most people who've stopped are either done with D3 or waiting for some sort of magical patch that fixes everything and gives them a reason to start over once again. Just look how dead this forum has become.


Hmmmm...
With Mortal Kombat story it WAS bullshit covering all the bullshit that happen after Mortal kombat trilogy and it worked out pretty awesome. But that was because the MK9 alone was actually a pretty nice, fun game. They got it right for once.
I think that salvaging Diablo 3 is doable at least, IF they put their shit together and come up with something ground breaking.

I think that - when it comes to the story arc - when you'll make a game that is just plain fun and enjoyable, the story kinda goes with it, even if it's bullshit covering some more bullshit.
Ahzz
Profile Joined May 2007
Finland780 Posts
August 20 2013 11:14 GMT
#55
On August 20 2013 19:50 kudlaty_true wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 06:20 Avs wrote:
On August 04 2013 19:02 Seiniyta wrote:
On August 02 2013 10:12 Torte de Lini wrote:
I don't even know how they can entice and bring back burned consumers? I'm interested in seeing the expansion, but honestly; D3 has remained on my shelf as the biggest purchase I've made this year.

I mean... what can they do to make the game so much more fulfilling?


They've already improved the game a lot since launch. You should definitly check it out again. And remember, only a small minority of the 12 million pc sales complained. It's telling that still over a million people play this game every month. that's a pretty big number. Also, Loot 2.0 is coming a bit after Blizzcon (patch 1.09) Or before that which should make it a lot more interesting. Also, if the expansion fixes a lot of the more harder to repair stuff (the story in the expansion being decent) etc sure. They can bring a lot of consumers back.


I don't know, the story got pretty fucked pretty fast in D3. Sure you can salvage it but that's like writing some bullshit to cover some bullshit, it takes more than a single expansion to fix the plot holes. I think most people who've stopped are either done with D3 or waiting for some sort of magical patch that fixes everything and gives them a reason to start over once again. Just look how dead this forum has become.


Hmmmm...
With Mortal Kombat story it WAS bullshit covering all the bullshit that happen after Mortal kombat trilogy and it worked out pretty awesome. But that was because the MK9 alone was actually a pretty nice, fun game. They got it right for once.
I think that salvaging Diablo 3 is doable at least, IF they put their shit together and come up with something ground breaking.

I think that - when it comes to the story arc - when you'll make a game that is just plain fun and enjoyable, the story kinda goes with it, even if it's bullshit covering some more bullshit.

I've been thinking... The story may be average at best, but we shouldnt expect a lot from a diablo franchise in that aspect anyway. However, what we can all agree on is that the way the story was told was utter crap. The dialog, the interaction with the bosses etc it was all terrible. But the plot itself isnt that crappy perhaps.
When diablo 3 came out I was really dissapointed that they wasted a lot of opportunities, and used many which sounded cool but werent that amazing. A good example of this was the final boss fight, diablo. With all evils stored in the black soulstone, we could have seen the Prime Evil, seven headed devil or something that is in the diablo 3 lore. We didn't. Maybe they want to save these things for later expansions.
Another example is Brood war's storyline. SC1 story was good, BW was pretty awesome.

We can hope that they have listened to the fan feedback regarding the storytelling, gotten it up a notch, and then have a lot of things in store yet.
They CAN fix some of the linear gameplay that was with D3. If they do a big overhaul with the acts to make levels less linear and expectable, it could fix many many problems that made the game boring quick.
Personally I would have always preferred a challenging gameplay from inferno difficulty rather than getting 1 shot by firelinked vortex dogs over and over (before nerfs) and I don't know how they'll fix that. Maybe they wont even try. Maybe it doesnt matter, but its sure to make the game boring for ME quick.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 19:03:22
August 20 2013 19:02 GMT
#56
On August 10 2013 20:24 plgElwood wrote:
I got D2 after sc2 and have to say it is boring as shit if you play with someone who knows the game well
(lots if clicking and running, skipping story, no atmosphere..). Just because it was "the game" when you were 12, don´t hype it now....


lol.

diablo 2 was the best game ever created imo. sry bro.
the item and character progression is just incredibly awesome.


€: As to d3:
the game got patched pretty well, too bad there was no character wipe and the fucked up economy stays
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Gotmog
Profile Joined October 2010
Serbia899 Posts
August 20 2013 21:31 GMT
#57
Didn't they say , several times, that D3 wont have p2p expansions ?
"When you play the game of drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground"
im a roc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States745 Posts
August 20 2013 23:52 GMT
#58
I've been able to enjoy the game a lot as just a single player RPG or playing exclusively with some of my personal friends. The moment I start playing online or trying to use the auction house the game becomes frustrating, so I just choose to ignore those aspects of the game completely (which are ironically the parts of the game Blizz focused on in development so much). The story is awful and the economy is unstable, but I have a blast playing it as a hack and slash game on inferno. It's a genuine challenge and I've put hundreds of hours in and I'll probably put in a lot more before I'm done with it. If an expansion drops, there's a good chance I'll pick it up even if its just for another act or two of content. I don't defend the quality of the game as a whole product, but I've found a way to enjoy it a lot and it still delivers every time I play it.
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rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
August 21 2013 00:51 GMT
#59
The sad part about my relation with Blizzard these days is while I was hugely disapointed by D3 and SC2 and their overall direction/communication and think its becoming an average developer, I will still probably buy the next one... just because I loved their older games so much.

Not sure how long I can keep getting disappointed.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
August 21 2013 01:48 GMT
#60
how long until they announce this joke
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