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Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
March 05 2013 20:06 GMT
#201
On March 06 2013 01:45 scDeluX wrote:
Show nested quote +

Making a ladder in D3 would be utterly pointless, because building a character is non-existent. Going from Level 1-60 was okay the first time around, because it was a new experience. Doing it on multiple characters was absolutely mind-numbing...and the only thing worse is being told you have to do it all over again.


Leveling (1-60 + a few paragon + inferno clear) is done in a few days. Ladder reset is about giving the economy another go. #1 reason lots of people don't play this game anymore is that econ is shit and will stay that way forever. Finding uniques and set is pointless unless they are 99%+ perfect. If ladder would reset RMAH prices would skyrocket, who doesn't want that?




Show nested quote +


And what about the people that spent a bunch of real cash on the AH? That's the real reason they can't do that. Not to mention it takes centuries of hardcore grinding to hit paragon 100. Like, even with a 24/7 bot it takes an insanely long time.


They can still enjoy their character and items in non-ladder. That is how it works. It's the only thing that Jay Wilson should have doubled. There would be a realm for non-ladder and one for ladder with separate ah and rmah.

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On March 05 2013 07:11 Wuster wrote:
I doubt it, plenty of people bought D2 items for real money after all.

I think the length of the grind (too short to lvl 60, too long to plvl 100) and different player expectations are the real reason (my hunch is players today wouldn't care for re-leveling every few months, but I could be wrong).


See above. If people wanna keep going with their char on non-ladder nothing stops them. Also If they would add a small leaderboard for leveling race (visible in-game for once) imagine the hype that would bring. It's so damn simple and anything with some competition always brings more attention.

I think PoE really nailed it with ladder. They call them race and give prizes (items in-game, cosmetics and such). They range from a couple hours, to weeks and month. This is what d3 should have done.


I remember how ladder works; I was responding that real money purchases doesn't stop the existence of a ladder as they both existed just fine in D2.

I never laddered in D2; I didn't see the point.* Sure it was good for some people to compete, but I remember RusBarb having a team of like 20 people who would power clear Chaos Sanctuary so whichever person was awake could play RusBarb and pop in and kill Diablo, jump to the next pre-cleared Chaos Sanctuary, ect, ect, literally non-stop for a week (or however long it took).

Some competition...

But then I guess it's like WoW, just because the majority of us don't do heroic raids or compete for realm firsts doesn't mean they should be removed.

I think Mike B nailed it on the BFF report - ARPGs are by and large niche games. So, that probably means they should be full of niche features, which D3 doesn't really have.

* I also never traded with other people so econ resets didn't matter to me. After the first few play throughs I only ever lan-ed with friends actually.
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
March 05 2013 20:43 GMT
#202
Yeah, this is a great quote. I find that there is simply not enough "things" to do in d3. After a small amount of hours you surely cleared the game, even in hardcore. After that you can farm to p100 ok... Then it's the endless item grind that you aren't even exited about because when a unique finally drop, there is already thousands others the server and they surely are better than yours. With a ladder system, everything that there is to do in-game is reset so it's like release all over again. I'd be exited to find the first IK armor even if its a shitty roll. Then there is the first diablo kill, first p100 and everything else again which would boost the game popularity for ever and ever.

The thing is that it would also boost RMAH sales and activision is all about making more money thus why I don't get there position on this.
Brood War is forever
zbedlam
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia549 Posts
March 08 2013 13:50 GMT
#203
Out of all the ways to break into the console market, why try and do it with the worst game they have made to date? Doesn't make sense from any long term perspective as its just going to leave a sour taste in everyones mouth.

This makes no sense at all, I doubt even the console market's hilariously low standards will take this reaming with a smile.
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
March 08 2013 13:57 GMT
#204
On March 08 2013 22:50 zbedlam wrote:
Out of all the ways to break into the console market, why try and do it with the worst game they have made to date? Doesn't make sense from any long term perspective as its just going to leave a sour taste in everyones mouth.

This makes no sense at all, I doubt even the console market's hilariously low standards will take this reaming with a smile.


Imo they're just trying to get extra mileage out of D3 now that the RMAH has proven to be a failure. It's all about money.
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
March 08 2013 23:51 GMT
#205
I can now officially say that Diablo 3 is the most disappointing game I've ever played. Fucking sell outs.
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jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
March 09 2013 00:12 GMT
#206
i can't see how this is going to work ...
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5478 Posts
March 09 2013 10:25 GMT
#207
On February 21 2013 10:05 marttorn wrote:
I could honestly think of 3-4 different diseases i'd rather catch, than try this on console :/

Only 3-4
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
Hubble
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany248 Posts
March 09 2013 10:42 GMT
#208
On March 06 2013 05:06 Wuster wrote:
I never laddered in D2; I didn't see the point.* Sure it was good for some people to compete, but I remember RusBarb having a team of like 20 people who would power clear Chaos Sanctuary so whichever person was awake could play RusBarb and pop in and kill Diablo, jump to the next pre-cleared Chaos Sanctuary, ect, ect, literally non-stop for a week (or however long it took).


Aren't there ladder-only items in D2 which is the whole point of laddering for everyone except the guys racing for #1?
I can see what you see not, vision milky then eyes rot. When you turn they will be gone, whispering their hidden song...
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
March 11 2013 21:21 GMT
#209
Oh right, I forgot about those.

I forget could you get those on open tcp/ip? Since that was actually the mode I played with the most (after the first year on regular bnet). I seem to remember not and then not caring since I basically played self-found with my friends anyways.
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