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CauthonLuck
Profile Joined July 2009
United States93 Posts
June 14 2013 15:54 GMT
#701
Just started up hardcore again after a long hiatus, have a 60 Barb and DH though they are not yet well geared.
I'll be switching off between playing the Barb and leveling a WD, add for potential grouping / waypoint swapping fun times.
CauthonLuck#1898
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
June 14 2013 16:19 GMT
#702
On June 15 2013 00:54 CauthonLuck wrote:
Just started up hardcore again after a long hiatus, have a 60 Barb and DH though they are not yet well geared.
I'll be switching off between playing the Barb and leveling a WD, add for potential grouping / waypoint swapping fun times.
CauthonLuck#1898

aaaaaw shit cauthonluck!! :O

Pokebunny#1967
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 16:27:59
June 14 2013 16:27 GMT
#703
is gargantuan still good for hardcore witch doctor? its recommended in the guide to hardcore page but people keep telling me its bad.

would it be better to post future hardcore class specific questions in this thread or in the individual class thread?
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
June 14 2013 16:35 GMT
#704
On June 15 2013 01:27 Frolossus wrote:
is gargantuan still good for hardcore witch doctor? its recommended in the guide to hardcore page but people keep telling me its bad.

would it be better to post future hardcore class specific questions in this thread or in the individual class thread?


It's the third-ranked variation in the most popular build, so it's still good but it's not pure standard. The Cleave effect seems to be preferred at the moment, followed by the Stunner, then the big Rager.

http://diablo.somepage.com/popular/witch-doctor#builds-hc
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
June 14 2013 17:48 GMT
#705
On June 15 2013 01:27 Frolossus wrote:
is gargantuan still good for hardcore witch doctor? its recommended in the guide to hardcore page but people keep telling me its bad.

would it be better to post future hardcore class specific questions in this thread or in the individual class thread?

It's good for starting witch doctors or for soloing but once you're comfortable with your safety I would drop it.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
June 14 2013 22:14 GMT
#706
On June 15 2013 02:48 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2013 01:27 Frolossus wrote:
is gargantuan still good for hardcore witch doctor? its recommended in the guide to hardcore page but people keep telling me its bad.

would it be better to post future hardcore class specific questions in this thread or in the individual class thread?

It's good for starting witch doctors or for soloing but once you're comfortable with your safety I would drop it.


Yeah, it just doesn't add much to group play. I would switch out garg for BBV if you're playing in a group, very useful for taking out the E's quickly on higher MPs.
Steelavocado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2123 Posts
June 14 2013 22:47 GMT
#707
O shit it is cauthonluck. You might remember me, I played league of legends with you guys during the sc2 beta hiatus.
MIRACLE IS YOUR TI7 CHAMP
Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
June 15 2013 07:53 GMT
#708
Recently started playing a hardcore barb and he's now up to paragon 39.

Doko#1556
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/doko-1556/hero/33939465

Looking for some people to farm act 2/3 keys or just farming in general. Usually do mp3 but willing to go a bit higher if needed.
Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
June 15 2013 22:37 GMT
#709
Hi, I've started to play HC this week but I have never ever played softcore so I discover the game right now.
I was wondering if it was cost effective to run the butcher in normal lvl 10 minions to try to improve my stuff and gain xp so I don't die in the second act ? (I'm curently lvl 20)
INnoVation is the absolute best | I wept for i knew his words to be true
Steelavocado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2123 Posts
June 15 2013 23:24 GMT
#710
On June 16 2013 07:37 Philozovic wrote:
Hi, I've started to play HC this week but I have never ever played softcore so I discover the game right now.
I was wondering if it was cost effective to run the butcher in normal lvl 10 minions to try to improve my stuff and gain xp so I don't die in the second act ? (I'm curently lvl 20)

Yes that is an option. You can also try to craft better items by salvaging blue and yellow drops to get materials to make new armour and weapons. Also, check with the vendors in each New Tristram, sometimes they will offer great upgrades.

If you want to take on act 2 immediately, would be a good idea to have the Templar with you so he can act as a tank and crowd control.


MIRACLE IS YOUR TI7 CHAMP
Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
June 16 2013 00:43 GMT
#711
On June 16 2013 07:37 Philozovic wrote:
Hi, I've started to play HC this week but I have never ever played softcore so I discover the game right now.
I was wondering if it was cost effective to run the butcher in normal lvl 10 minions to try to improve my stuff and gain xp so I don't die in the second act ? (I'm curently lvl 20)


Boss kills are only guaranteed to give you rare items (yellow) the first time you kill them with a character, so re-running them isn't as good of an idea as it was in D2. Most items that you'll get while leveling up in D3 come from killing elites/champions (blue and yellow enemies). You can use the items directly, or salvage them for crafting materials. So, the best way to get better items is to follow a farming route that presents you with a high frequency of elite fights.
MstrJinbo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1251 Posts
June 16 2013 01:01 GMT
#712
On June 16 2013 07:37 Philozovic wrote:
Hi, I've started to play HC this week but I have never ever played softcore so I discover the game right now.
I was wondering if it was cost effective to run the butcher in normal lvl 10 minions to try to improve my stuff and gain xp so I don't die in the second act ? (I'm curently lvl 20)


A couple important points you should consider when you are rerunning old content

1.) The drops off monsters is based off the monster level and not your level. So hypothetically if monsters in the Halls of Agony are are monster level 15, you will only ever get level 15 items regardless of your level. No amount of butcher runs will get you a level 16 or 17 item. For that you will need to move on to the next act

2.) There is diminishing returns off farming lower level monsters. As you start to outlevel the area, the monsters you kill will progressively give you less and less experience. Once you start moving along the quests and start hitting more current sections of the game you will notice that you are leveling faster.

Basically these two points should encourage you to not linger too long on any particular act but to progress along normal->hell steadily. Now as a hardcore player, you need to balance the need to move along to get more XP and better drops with staying alive. Anyways good luck.
Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
June 16 2013 02:45 GMT
#713
The best way to make money at those levels is to really know what to look for.

- Sockets
- XP per kill
- average damage (for example a ring that gives 2-4 damage is more damage than maybe 20 or 30 main stat since the modifier that those stats would apply is off a very small value.)

Some people will pay outrageous prices for items that will last them a couple hours worth of gameplay when all you really need is a socketed weapon with a ruby.
Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
June 16 2013 09:30 GMT
#714
Ok thanks for your advices

What I was usually doing is killing evrything from the TP to the butcher, recycling and then selling it to the AH allowing me to buy good stuff.
INnoVation is the absolute best | I wept for i knew his words to be true
adaptive7
Profile Joined November 2011
Austria16 Posts
June 16 2013 12:11 GMT
#715
@chosen:
Nice Video! I learned a lot from that.
Why is there not the standard Hungering/Ball Lightning build or the Hungering / Multishot Build for the DH in your Video? Is this not viable in end game d3? How does the Spike trap build look? Hungering / Spike trap along with 4 defensive skills?
Thanks a lot!
Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
June 16 2013 13:19 GMT
#716
I sould have pex more :'( I died fighting Belial
INnoVation is the absolute best | I wept for i knew his words to be true
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-16 17:42:14
June 16 2013 17:42 GMT
#717
Just btw level 20 is way overleveled for starting act 2. I would go 18 at highest if I was doing MP10.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
June 16 2013 18:08 GMT
#718
I was doing MP 10 then I guess it was my gear, my build or me who sucked ^^
INnoVation is the absolute best | I wept for i knew his words to be true
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
June 16 2013 18:22 GMT
#719
just had my first hc death against azmodan nightmare mode due to the server lag
ChosenBrad1322
Profile Joined April 2012
United States562 Posts
June 16 2013 22:53 GMT
#720
On June 16 2013 21:11 adaptive7 wrote:
@chosen:
Nice Video! I learned a lot from that.
Why is there not the standard Hungering/Ball Lightning build or the Hungering / Multishot Build for the DH in your Video? Is this not viable in end game d3? How does the Spike trap build look? Hungering / Spike trap along with 4 defensive skills?
Thanks a lot!


I wish I could give you insight into DH but I really can't, DH and Wiz are the classes I don't know much about. I really leaned on other people for the DH rankings / builds. Thanks for the input, hopefully someone else can shed some light on your DH questions.
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