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Terrestrialrage
Profile Joined February 2011
United States122 Posts
March 15 2013 19:35 GMT
#461
Is it against forum rules to advertise the sale of Hardcore gold for RL money? Just wondering cuz i have a ton to offload and looking for a legitimate place to do it since it can't be done on JSP.
We need more Lemon Pledge....
Ambre
Profile Joined July 2011
France416 Posts
March 15 2013 19:39 GMT
#462
On March 16 2013 04:35 Terrestrialrage wrote:
Is it against forum rules to advertise the sale of Hardcore gold for RL money? Just wondering cuz i have a ton to offload and looking for a legitimate place to do it since it can't be done on JSP.


Forget the forum, it's against Blizzard GCU (that was one of the main reasons to introduce RMAH in SC)
"There is only one corner of the universe you can be certain of improving, and that's your own self." - Aldous Huxley
BreathePL
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland33 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 10:20:18
March 16 2013 10:18 GMT
#463
R.I.P chosen+pokebunny, good to see you not giving up :p

Um i plan to finally stop casualy suiciding my deamon hunters and finally get to inferno. Could somebody advise me
How much stats do i need to survive 2 hell belial explosion hits? Hes bane of my existence. Also if someone want to play i will add my tag this evening.
I wonder if you are destined to be forgotten. Will your life fade in the shadow of greater beings?
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
March 16 2013 18:13 GMT
#464
On March 16 2013 19:18 BreathePL wrote:
R.I.P chosen+pokebunny, good to see you not giving up :p

Um i plan to finally stop casualy suiciding my deamon hunters and finally get to inferno. Could somebody advise me
How much stats do i need to survive 2 hell belial explosion hits? Hes bane of my existence. Also if someone want to play i will add my tag this evening.

Just use shadow power gloom :O!
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
ChosenBrad1322
Profile Joined April 2012
United States562 Posts
March 18 2013 08:45 GMT
#465
On March 16 2013 19:18 BreathePL wrote:
R.I.P chosen+pokebunny, good to see you not giving up :p

Um i plan to finally stop casualy suiciding my deamon hunters and finally get to inferno. Could somebody advise me
How much stats do i need to survive 2 hell belial explosion hits? Hes bane of my existence. Also if someone want to play i will add my tag this evening.


Can't give up, would go against everything I say to everyone

Although last night I proc'd Spirit Vessel and right after I just spent about 1billion re-gearing. I got Crit by 2 Banelings in Keeps2 right by the entrance so popped up to K1 to get the waypoint quick but there was trash mobs by it that we didn't clear on our way to K2. I clicked town with about 500HP after Spirit Vessel already popped.

2 deaths in 1 week and 2.5billion gold gone in 1 week almost.... woulda been tough to pick myself up from that and keep playing. Thankfully avoided that!
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
March 18 2013 16:49 GMT
#466
I am gonna start my first HC character. I have some questions: Gold/gears seperated from your SC right? But if your toon die, you still have what he had in the stash?
Also, I guess Vit will be the main stat here in Hardcore?
Tips are welcomed !!!
Terran
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
March 18 2013 17:07 GMT
#467
On March 19 2013 01:49 Caphe wrote:
I am gonna start my first HC character. I have some questions: Gold/gears seperated from your SC right? But if your toon die, you still have what he had in the stash?
Also, I guess Vit will be the main stat here in Hardcore?
Tips are welcomed !!!


Yep. You only lose the character and everything they have equipped + in their inventory. In SC, you will basically ignore Vit but in HC you will want your primary stat + Vit to be roughly equal (or slightly less Vit).
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
ChosenBrad1322
Profile Joined April 2012
United States562 Posts
March 18 2013 18:20 GMT
#468
On March 19 2013 01:49 Caphe wrote:
I am gonna start my first HC character. I have some questions: Gold/gears seperated from your SC right? But if your toon die, you still have what he had in the stash?
Also, I guess Vit will be the main stat here in Hardcore?
Tips are welcomed !!!


Welcome to HC, you won't go back to softcore once you switch

There are some general tips in the OP of this thread that should give ya some small advice.
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
March 18 2013 21:14 GMT
#469
How has the economy survived since i last played? Like how perfect does items need to be to sell? I quit a few weeks into the patch that made legendaries drop a lot more. IK chests and Zuni chests went for like 80m - 100m. And as a DH are emeralds still king in weapons? The new crafting stuff - worth it? I sold so much materials over my playing time so pissed as hell they finally fixed crafting.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
March 18 2013 23:04 GMT
#470
On March 19 2013 06:14 unkkz wrote:
How has the economy survived since i last played? Like how perfect does items need to be to sell? I quit a few weeks into the patch that made legendaries drop a lot more. IK chests and Zuni chests went for like 80m - 100m. And as a DH are emeralds still king in weapons? The new crafting stuff - worth it? I sold so much materials over my playing time so pissed as hell they finally fixed crafting.

No clue about EU, but min roll IK/Zuni on NA is like... 40-50m?
New crafting stuff is OP as fuck.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
vBr
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden193 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-20 08:00:02
March 20 2013 07:59 GMT
#471
On March 19 2013 06:14 unkkz wrote:
How has the economy survived since i last played? Like how perfect does items need to be to sell? I quit a few weeks into the patch that made legendaries drop a lot more. IK chests and Zuni chests went for like 80m - 100m. And as a DH are emeralds still king in weapons? The new crafting stuff - worth it? I sold so much materials over my playing time so pissed as hell they finally fixed crafting.


Zuni chest was 60m+ for a good one last time I checked, which was about a month ago

edit: on EU
Shottaz
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom414 Posts
March 20 2013 08:22 GMT
#472
Hey guys, I have one HC Barb around level 30 or so but I stopped playing about 6 months ago. Basically SC became so boring, the only thing that would make me come back to SC would be a ladder reset. I just feel that the gold saturation and de-valuing of items has got to the point where unless you are riding the wave of being at the top you just exist as a bottom feeder.

So anyway, how is HC at the moment, is it flooded with cheap items? Is it something you can enter as a level one and enjoy (until you char dies)?
Praise the sun! \o/
Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
March 20 2013 17:59 GMT
#473
On March 20 2013 17:22 Shottaz wrote:
Hey guys, I have one HC Barb around level 30 or so but I stopped playing about 6 months ago. Basically SC became so boring, the only thing that would make me come back to SC would be a ladder reset. I just feel that the gold saturation and de-valuing of items has got to the point where unless you are riding the wave of being at the top you just exist as a bottom feeder.

So anyway, how is HC at the moment, is it flooded with cheap items? Is it something you can enter as a level one and enjoy (until you char dies)?


To me, SC has been that way since launch. Initial class imbalances regarding ability to farm A3 ruined the "fairness" of the economy from the start, creating haves and have nots depending strongly on class choice. It's still possible to find and sell items, but the stat requirements keep on with their steady upward march meaning that the chance of a valuable drop is becoming vanishingly small.

And that's why HC has me hooked. It is certainly not flooded with cheap items, because people die, all the time. Between Chosen and Pokebunny alone there is probably ~2b of gear deleted from the game reported in this thread. When I get a leg drop in HC, I a little voice in my head goes YESSS, because there is a good chance it will be worth something.
ChosenBrad1322
Profile Joined April 2012
United States562 Posts
March 21 2013 03:45 GMT
#474
On March 21 2013 02:59 Eschaton wrote:

Between Chosen and Pokebunny alone there is probably ~2b of gear deleted from the game reported in this thread.


ur a dick! xD

That sucked... thanks for reminding me! I'm back in the saddle now though. Level 60 (10) with nice gear again. Also, just finished part 2 of my Play Like a Pro Series. This vid is on how to play Barbarian featuring a top 5 on server Barbarian (Protatoe). Should have it posted either late tonight or tomorrow afternoon!
matiK23
Profile Joined May 2011
United States963 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-21 06:38:42
March 21 2013 06:38 GMT
#475
Thinking about starting a monk on HC. What is an effective Alkaizer runner build that can be made off a low budget (1st time playing monk)? Or is there even such a thing? I browsed some items and feel like they are one of, if not THE, most expensive class.
Without a paddle up shit creek.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-21 17:58:13
March 21 2013 17:56 GMT
#476
On March 20 2013 17:22 Shottaz wrote:
Hey guys, I have one HC Barb around level 30 or so but I stopped playing about 6 months ago. Basically SC became so boring, the only thing that would make me come back to SC would be a ladder reset. I just feel that the gold saturation and de-valuing of items has got to the point where unless you are riding the wave of being at the top you just exist as a bottom feeder.

So anyway, how is HC at the moment, is it flooded with cheap items? Is it something you can enter as a level one and enjoy (until you char dies)?

I think you can definitely work your way up in the economy pretty easily, if you play consistently you should find yourself making gold pretty consistently as well, unlike softcore where you're basically praying for something awesome
On March 21 2013 15:38 matiK23 wrote:
Thinking about starting a monk on HC. What is an effective Alkaizer runner build that can be made off a low budget (1st time playing monk)? Or is there even such a thing? I browsed some items and feel like they are one of, if not THE, most expensive class.

How low budget are we talking? If it's your first HC character and you don't bring any gold over, you'll be running 30k dps sword/shield tanky build for a bit, most likely, no matter what class you play. You likely won't be farming anywhere close to efficiently by softcore standards for quite a bit. For reference, it took a couple hundred mil to get my DH to 92k DPS unbuffed, and maybe 100-150m to get my WD to 65k unbuffed. On the flip side, it's way easier to make gold once you're farming a3 mp0.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
matiK23
Profile Joined May 2011
United States963 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-21 19:02:12
March 21 2013 18:56 GMT
#477
15 mill in the bank right now after selling the shiitiest Blackthornes pants ever (no clue why it sold for that much or why the better ones sell for 30 mil plus). Already have a 45k unbuff dps WD and I don't see any zunimassa items in sight as even the low end is 40 mil. So I want to start a monk with zero experience with the class. If sword and board is the way to go then I'll do it, but if I can do something with the 15 mill and alkaizer with it at above average speeds, of course I'd jump the gun. For sword and board, which build do you recommend? Also is attack speed more important with this class over crit?

I WAS interested in the Tempest Rush build but then found out you need a Skorn AND a class/ability specific SoJ so that's out of the picture, especially in HC.
Without a paddle up shit creek.
Scythe90
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia137 Posts
March 21 2013 19:18 GMT
#478
I just started levelling a new WD. What is the quickest way to level? I am usually playing solo, I have a decent amount of money to get gear.

Normally I just play through the story in each difficulty on mp0, but that might be really slow for all I know.
Gladness
Profile Joined June 2012
United States59 Posts
March 21 2013 20:05 GMT
#479
On March 22 2013 02:56 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 17:22 Shottaz wrote:
Hey guys, I have one HC Barb around level 30 or so but I stopped playing about 6 months ago. Basically SC became so boring, the only thing that would make me come back to SC would be a ladder reset. I just feel that the gold saturation and de-valuing of items has got to the point where unless you are riding the wave of being at the top you just exist as a bottom feeder.

So anyway, how is HC at the moment, is it flooded with cheap items? Is it something you can enter as a level one and enjoy (until you char dies)?

I think you can definitely work your way up in the economy pretty easily, if you play consistently you should find yourself making gold pretty consistently as well, unlike softcore where you're basically praying for something awesome

Agreed. The new crafting recipes are a godsend. My scrubby 19k barb can't afford to craft any of it, but selling Tomes of Secrets at 20k+ apiece is my lifeblood. I would have quit if I had to "pray for something awesome" to get out of a1m0 farming, but the steady Tome income has put me 1 or 2 upgrades away from a legit push to a3. I'm not sure if that's exactly what Shottaz means by being a "bottom feeder", but to me it feels more like progression and less like a slot machine or charity.

I don't know what it takes to claw your way to the top of the ladder, but any rung feels better when you know you got there by never dying.
matiK23
Profile Joined May 2011
United States963 Posts
March 21 2013 20:37 GMT
#480
On March 22 2013 04:18 Scythe90 wrote:
I just started levelling a new WD. What is the quickest way to level? I am usually playing solo, I have a decent amount of money to get gear.

Normally I just play through the story in each difficulty on mp0, but that might be really slow for all I know.


Personally I bathed myself in +xp gear and just cleared EVERY inch of the acts. Doing this got me to lvl 54-55 at Act 1 Hell. I don't know if thats fast to you but I was happy with it. You can also clear it at higher MP at lower difficulties for more xp.
Without a paddle up shit creek.
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