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darkcloud8282
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 18:46:13
June 19 2012 18:45 GMT
#321
They definately lowered the damage by a lot. I can take some hits from elites now on my DH. I cant imagine how easy the game is for barbs now, especially 2h ones.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 19:01:10
June 19 2012 18:49 GMT
#322
On June 20 2012 03:41 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 03:38 karazax wrote:
On June 20 2012 03:34 matiK23 wrote:
On June 20 2012 03:32 karazax wrote:
Havent tried my demon hunter yet, but my a2 barb was able to clear belial with 5 stacks for the first time with no deaths the whole session, including standing in fire chains/desecrator/plague against on elites for prolonged periods where before it would kill me in seconds and I would have to kite them and use multiple cool downs and still have a good chance of dieing.
current base stats with shout are:
1574 Str
1203 Vit
most of my resists are mid 600 except physical is 726 with shout up
block is at 33%
14776 base dps
834 Life on Hit


Dude you have those kinda stats, and couldn't kill Belial pre-patch without deaths?


never tried, that was my first attempt. Just got to a2 on him 2 days ago, but the elites definitely were giving me deaths pre-patch

That's pretty overgeared for A2. I cleared A2 with much less than that.

Though your resists are pretty low compared to everything else.


Yeah i suspect I would have cleared A2 today anyway, but now i can just sit in fire chains and plague/desercrator for several seconds at a time without dieing.

Molten/frozen/jailer wasps can be facetanked with additional mobs where I would skip them before or likely have multiple deaths.
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
June 19 2012 18:53 GMT
#323
On June 20 2012 03:45 darkcloud8282 wrote:
They definately lowered the damage by a lot. I can take some hits from elites now on my DH. I cant imagine how easy the game is for barbs now, especially 2h ones.


What act are those elites?
Oldfool
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia394 Posts
June 19 2012 18:53 GMT
#324
I haven't had a dps drop on my DH (except NT nerf), but oh my god there is sooo much more rubberbanding when I run over traps or groups of mobs!
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it is difficult to discern whether or not they are genuine." - Abraham Lincoln
darkcloud8282
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada776 Posts
June 19 2012 18:58 GMT
#325
On June 20 2012 03:53 Zocat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 03:45 darkcloud8282 wrote:
They definately lowered the damage by a lot. I can take some hits from elites now on my DH. I cant imagine how easy the game is for barbs now, especially 2h ones.


What act are those elites?

Act 3.
Mysticesper
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1183 Posts
June 19 2012 18:58 GMT
#326
Probably going back to act 1 farming due to repair bills =\

oh well.
DDie
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil2369 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 19:06:37
June 19 2012 19:01 GMT
#327
On June 20 2012 02:16 HardlyNever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 02:11 DDie wrote:
On June 20 2012 01:45 HardlyNever wrote:

The MF not affecting barrels, chests, etc. is a little unfortunate (I just got a legendary from a regular chest yesterday), but probably needed due to botting.




So instead of fixing the actual problem they punish all players, yep, that sounds about right.


Hey, bots are farming gold in NM, so we need to remove gold from monsters ASAP. Bots are also farming elites for items, it's unfortunate, but i'll guess they have to go too, right?


On a side note, i lol'ed hard when i saw the 3 minute enrage on belial, just pathetic.


There is always some idiot that thinks they can just "fix the problem" or "just stop botting." Right now, that idiot is you.

But I'm sure you could do it right? I heard Blizz is hiring right now, why don't you go show them how to do it.



And there is always a very, very smart person who thinks it's better to nerf every aspect of the game instead.


NM runs are as profitable as royal crypts, solution = remove gold from monsters. Bots farming packs, solution = reduce loot/make elites 1000000% harder. Bots spamming channels, solution = get rid of chat. People duping godly gear = reduce DPS in everything.

Pure genius.
''Television! Teacher, mother, secret lover.''
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
June 19 2012 19:02 GMT
#328
On June 20 2012 03:58 darkcloud8282 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 03:53 Zocat wrote:
On June 20 2012 03:45 darkcloud8282 wrote:
They definately lowered the damage by a lot. I can take some hits from elites now on my DH. I cant imagine how easy the game is for barbs now, especially 2h ones.


What act are those elites?

Act 3.


Cool! Thanks!
Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
June 19 2012 19:03 GMT
#329
so, ghom just fills the entire room with gas clouds in under 1 minute now. i guess i need 1000 poison resist and at least 100 LoH =(
Crispy Bacon craving overload.
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
June 19 2012 19:04 GMT
#330
Mhm.. I worked so hard to gear up my barb. I can kill many/most elite and champ packs in A3 now (even invul champions / fire chains desecrator, etc. Basically if they're not lickers or those ranged birds, I can kill it).

I hope all the gold spent won't feel useless after the nerf.
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
June 19 2012 19:07 GMT
#331
Anyone else having troubles leaving the damn general chat?? I can't leave I keep getting an error message. So now my little chatbox gets completely flooded by basically the stupidity of b.net forums please help?
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
June 19 2012 19:13 GMT
#332
That enrage timer on Belial is such a pain for melee.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
June 19 2012 19:17 GMT
#333
can someone provide rough estimates on what all resist, armor, HP #s are needed now to be in 3-4 shot range for A3-4 as a ranged class?

it seems damage has been noticeably nerfed
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
hfxRos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada87 Posts
June 19 2012 19:19 GMT
#334
On June 20 2012 04:13 Hier wrote:
That enrage timer on Belial is such a pain for melee.


I haven't gotten to play since the patch, but before the patch I could just tank Belial's hits on my Barbarian, except for the part where he sticks his hand in the ground and does the barrage thing, so I don't see why this would be so much worse for melee over ranged.

I imagine it's even easier now, since he does less damage (or did the nerf not apply to bosses since they were already pretty easy?)
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
June 19 2012 19:23 GMT
#335
On June 20 2012 03:01 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 02:56 matiK23 wrote:
Sigh people are never happy.



well when you fuck up a beloved franchise such as diablo (which seems impossible to fuck up) there is going to be backlash and tears. many of us have waited 10 years for this game and to but it bluntly, it's not nearly as good as it should be.

Something with a 10year waiting time will never be as good as it should be.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
heartlxp
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1258 Posts
June 19 2012 19:23 GMT
#336
On June 20 2012 04:19 hfxRos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 04:13 Hier wrote:
That enrage timer on Belial is such a pain for melee.


I haven't gotten to play since the patch, but before the patch I could just tank Belial's hits on my Barbarian, except for the part where he sticks his hand in the ground and does the barrage thing, so I don't see why this would be so much worse for melee over ranged.

I imagine it's even easier now, since he does less damage (or did the nerf not apply to bosses since they were already pretty easy?)


He didn't have an enrage timer before today's patch. The point is even if you can tank everything you still need to kill him in 3 mins for the last phase (whereas before you can take as long as you want).
matiK23
Profile Joined May 2011
United States963 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 19:29:49
June 19 2012 19:28 GMT
#337
On June 20 2012 04:01 DDie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 02:16 HardlyNever wrote:
On June 20 2012 02:11 DDie wrote:
On June 20 2012 01:45 HardlyNever wrote:

The MF not affecting barrels, chests, etc. is a little unfortunate (I just got a legendary from a regular chest yesterday), but probably needed due to botting.




So instead of fixing the actual problem they punish all players, yep, that sounds about right.


Hey, bots are farming gold in NM, so we need to remove gold from monsters ASAP. Bots are also farming elites for items, it's unfortunate, but i'll guess they have to go too, right?


On a side note, i lol'ed hard when i saw the 3 minute enrage on belial, just pathetic.


There is always some idiot that thinks they can just "fix the problem" or "just stop botting." Right now, that idiot is you.

But I'm sure you could do it right? I heard Blizz is hiring right now, why don't you go show them how to do it.



And there is always a very, very smart person who thinks it's better to nerf every aspect of the game instead.


NM runs are as profitable as royal crypts, solution = remove gold from monsters. Bots farming packs, solution = reduce loot/make elites 1000000% harder. Bots spamming channels, solution = get rid of chat. People duping godly gear = reduce DPS in everything.

Pure genius.


Reduce dps while make elites 1000000% harder.



......yeaaaaaaaaah, no. Obviously you didn't play as a Barb pre 1.03.
Without a paddle up shit creek.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 19:31:19
June 19 2012 19:30 GMT
#338
On June 20 2012 04:23 heartlxp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 04:19 hfxRos wrote:
On June 20 2012 04:13 Hier wrote:
That enrage timer on Belial is such a pain for melee.


I haven't gotten to play since the patch, but before the patch I could just tank Belial's hits on my Barbarian, except for the part where he sticks his hand in the ground and does the barrage thing, so I don't see why this would be so much worse for melee over ranged.

I imagine it's even easier now, since he does less damage (or did the nerf not apply to bosses since they were already pretty easy?)


He didn't have an enrage timer before today's patch. The point is even if you can tank everything you still need to kill him in 3 mins for the last phase (whereas before you can take as long as you want).


Since he does less damage you can get more dps stats and less vitality/resists in your gear and still survive.
Coolness53
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
June 19 2012 19:32 GMT
#339
So how much easier is inferno?
Fruitdealer, DongRaeGu, and Soulkey
hfxRos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada87 Posts
June 19 2012 19:33 GMT
#340
On June 20 2012 04:23 heartlxp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 04:19 hfxRos wrote:
On June 20 2012 04:13 Hier wrote:
That enrage timer on Belial is such a pain for melee.


I haven't gotten to play since the patch, but before the patch I could just tank Belial's hits on my Barbarian, except for the part where he sticks his hand in the ground and does the barrage thing, so I don't see why this would be so much worse for melee over ranged.

I imagine it's even easier now, since he does less damage (or did the nerf not apply to bosses since they were already pretty easy?)


He didn't have an enrage timer before today's patch. The point is even if you can tank everything you still need to kill him in 3 mins for the last phase (whereas before you can take as long as you want).


I get that, but while I never fought him with a stopwatch, it certainly never felt like it was over 3 minutes.
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