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skaeve
Denmark66 Posts
I haven't touched diablo for a while but after watching some streams I felt like trying my barb again. I used 3-4 mil on gear, but I'm still dieing on Mp1 act 3. So now I have around 5 mil left but I'm not really sure what I should focus on getting up (all my defensive stats seem alittle low).. is there some all res and LOH plateau I should try to reach? And what slots should I upgrade first? Thanks  http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/maze-2895/hero/201478 | ||
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blagoonga123
United States2068 Posts
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
Also been thinking, what would the best weapon type be? Not sure between mace/sword, since the 15% increased damage from sword could be pretty good. | ||
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NostalgiaTag
Canada508 Posts
On October 29 2012 14:03 hunts wrote: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/hunts-1629/hero/13785460 Any suggestions on upgrades or if I should change up build? Is tornado much more efficient than sword and board or can I just stick to sword and board? Also is 2H good yet? Or are you still stuck doing DW tornado or sword and board? Also been thinking, what would the best weapon type be? Not sure between mace/sword, since the 15% increased damage from sword could be pretty good. Where's your life on hit? eek! Your gonna be tank barb for life unless u get some LOH going | ||
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zylog
Canada943 Posts
On October 29 2012 14:03 hunts wrote: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/hunts-1629/hero/13785460 Any suggestions on upgrades or if I should change up build? Is tornado much more efficient than sword and board or can I just stick to sword and board? Also is 2H good yet? Or are you still stuck doing DW tornado or sword and board? Also been thinking, what would the best weapon type be? Not sure between mace/sword, since the 15% increased damage from sword could be pretty good. WW really is that much more efficient, all the other classes whine about it being OP too. This is why: - +60% movespeed from skills (20% WotB and 40% sprint), +24% movespeed from gear for 84% total. You can even add another 15% with frenzy vanguard. - moving attack so you don't have to stop moving to kill trash, you can keep sprinting right on towards the elites while killing everything behind you - almost permanent uptime on WotB if you play it right. In addition to the movespeed, this means +25% attack speed, +10% crit and immunity to CC effects. - sufficient lifesteal and defense means that if you can outheal incoming damage, you just need to keep drawing circles around and around until everything is dead. Other builds like S&B and 2H are viable, but WW seems to be the king at the moment for fast farming. | ||
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Hairy
United Kingdom1169 Posts
On October 29 2012 09:19 skaeve wrote: Hi guys. I haven't touched diablo for a while but after watching some streams I felt like trying my barb again. I used 3-4 mil on gear, but I'm still dieing on Mp1 act 3. So now I have around 5 mil left but I'm not really sure what I should focus on getting up (all my defensive stats seem alittle low).. is there some all res and LOH plateau I should try to reach? And what slots should I upgrade first? Thanks http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/maze-2895/hero/201478 Not enough healing, and your health is a bit low. You currently have 2.7% lifesteal and 628 LOH. This may have been okay pre-patch, but post-patch LOH is worth dirt. It's so incredibly inefficient with the proc coefficients on the main abilities that you need stupidly loads of it (1000 LOH pre-patch requires roughly 2500 LOH post-patch to achieve the same amount of healing). Unfortunately, your DPS probably isn't high enough to use pure lifesteal, so you'll need to mix the two together to get enough healing for the moment. On October 29 2012 12:16 blagoonga123 wrote: I've heard something like 1000 LOH and 6% life steal is ideal, feel free to correct me if i'm wrong. It obviously depends on your DPS As I said above, LOH is horribly inefficient now. Calculations I did recently indicated that, as a ~100k DPS barb, 1% lifesteal was worth about 450 LOH with a ww/sprint build. Ideally you want to use pure lifesteal and ditch the LOH, if possible. | ||
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Hairy
United Kingdom1169 Posts
On October 29 2012 14:03 hunts wrote: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/hunts-1629/hero/13785460 Any suggestions on upgrades or if I should change up build? Is tornado much more efficient than sword and board or can I just stick to sword and board? Also is 2H good yet? Or are you still stuck doing DW tornado or sword and board? Also been thinking, what would the best weapon type be? Not sure between mace/sword, since the 15% increased damage from sword could be pretty good. Mace/Axe gives loads of synergy with lots of builds, so it's usually considered the best. There's a bunch of builds that are viable, so you can pretty much choose what you want to play. However, tornado really is far more efficient than anything else for farming. At high MP a hammer of the ancients build seems best, but high MP isn't good for anything but farming keys. The good news is you can try the ww/sprint build right now - keep your shield on, and just grab the lifesteal passive instead of Tough as Nails and you should be ok (obviously change your other skills also). If you like the build you can tailor your gear more towards it. On October 29 2012 14:11 NostalgiaTag wrote: Where's your life on hit? eek! Your gonna be tank barb for life unless u get some LOH going Or lifesteal  There are also builds I've seen using 2H weapons that rely on furious charge + rend for healing, but I haven't really tried those much. | ||
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skaeve
Denmark66 Posts
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Hairy
United Kingdom1169 Posts
You'll need more healing too, I expect. You may want to change your weapons/amulet to get more LOH/Lifesteal to survive better. It might hurt to sacrifice DPS, but remember that a dead barb does 0 DPS | ||
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skaeve
Denmark66 Posts
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
Also, any thoughts on what to upgrade next? Have 70m to get to 100k+ dps. As stated above, I think I'm mostly going to focus on an off hand although my rings could use some work too I think. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Charger-1101/hero/23424149 | ||
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alexnos
Romania32 Posts
On October 30 2012 00:29 Charger wrote: Anyone have any rough numbers on how much lifesteal a 100k ww barb needs? I currently have 8.7% with bloodthurst at about 90k dps but I am thinking of upgrading my off hand and if I could go without lifesteal on it I could up my damage significantly. Also, any thoughts on what to upgrade next? Have 70m to get to 100k+ dps. As stated above, I think I'm mostly going to focus on an off hand although my rings could use some work too I think. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Charger-1101/hero/23424149 I currently have 5.4% life steal and 142k dps ,unbuffed ,and it's fine.I do think 6% is enough over 100k dps. A higher dps off hand would increase you dps considerably. I would first change the left ring thou... | ||
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Hairy
United Kingdom1169 Posts
On October 30 2012 00:29 Charger wrote: Anyone have any rough numbers on how much lifesteal a 100k ww barb needs? I currently have 8.7% with bloodthurst at about 90k dps but I am thinking of upgrading my off hand and if I could go without lifesteal on it I could up my damage significantly. Also, any thoughts on what to upgrade next? Have 70m to get to 100k+ dps. As stated above, I think I'm mostly going to focus on an off hand although my rings could use some work too I think. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Charger-1101/hero/23424149 Why not just change your passive to something useless and see how you go with 3% less lifesteal? As far as rings go, have you thought about a +cold Stone of Jordan? Very good for ww/sprint spec, I would very much recommend it. | ||
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
On October 30 2012 01:00 Hairy wrote: Why not just change your passive to something useless and see how you go with 3% less lifesteal? As far as rings go, have you thought about a +cold Stone of Jordan? Very good for ww/sprint spec, I would very much recommend it. You actually inspired me to get one the other day after viewing your profile. :p I got a WD one since I play my WD and Barb mostly these days. I haven't put it to use on my barb quite yet though. | ||
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
On October 30 2012 00:59 alexnos wrote: I currently have 5.4% life steal and 142k dps ,unbuffed ,and it's fine.I do think 6% is enough over 100k dps. A higher dps off hand would increase you dps considerably. I would first change the left ring thou... Thanks for the tip, I think I'll focus on left ring and off hand for now. Would you mind posting your profile? | ||
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Hairy
United Kingdom1169 Posts
On October 30 2012 01:04 Charger wrote: You actually inspired me to get one the other day after viewing your profile. :p I got a WD one since I play my WD and Barb mostly these days. I haven't put it to use on my barb quite yet though. Mine is a wizard one! :D 24% movement speed and +cold snaring everything you touch is when the magic really happens. | ||
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ArC_man
United States2798 Posts
I was testing some builds for soloing ubers yesterday and I found bash with clobber quite effective especially against kulle. In fact I found it so useful (since I'm using an echoing fury T_T) that I've been using it in my farming build as well. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/arcmandak-1701/hero/22025590 | ||
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Hairy
United Kingdom1169 Posts
On October 30 2012 02:52 ArC_man wrote: I have around 130k dps unbuffed with 5.5% life steal and it feels less safe than when I had 110k dps with 5.5% life steal and 600 LoH. You might think the little LoH doesn't matter (and I thought it wouldn't) but against some packs LoH definitely trumps LS (most noticeably health link packs with ground effects). I was testing some builds for soloing ubers yesterday and I found bash with clobber quite effective especially against kulle. In fact I found it so useful (since I'm using an echoing fury T_T) that I've been using it in my farming build as well. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/arcmandak-1701/hero/22025590 Probably because, looking at your build, it looks like you do a reasonable amount of Bash + HotA. Both of these abilities have very good proc coefficients, so your LOH is actually efficient there. | ||
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
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Krowser
Canada788 Posts
On October 30 2012 04:25 Charger wrote: Got up to 110k dps guys, thanks for the help! Sometimes you just need a fresh set of eyes to see things you can't. I highly recommend a 2H weapon with around 5% lifesteal. Thats what I'm using and it works very, very well for healing. | ||
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