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Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3822 Posts
October 17 2012 07:22 GMT
#3321
On October 12 2012 23:47 Charger wrote:
Hey guys, I need some more upgrade advice. I plan to wait til the patch to get the upgrades (unless there is a reason to buy now) and I have about 40m for this. What needs the most attention?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Charger-1101/hero/23424149


Just remember, there is no point in buying the IK boots before the chest, since a 4-piece doesn't give anything additional. So get the IK chest first At that point the boots will most likely be cheaper due to the higher droprates.
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Golgothite
Profile Joined November 2010
United States18 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 16:17:51
October 17 2012 16:15 GMT
#3322
Hello All,

I just got a barb to 60 and I'm looking to upgrade my gear. My first char was Monk and I tended to be way too tanky so I've sunk a lot of money/time into it trying to up my All-Res and survivability and it always felt like I was spinning my wheels. I've included my profile so you can take a look at what my time has gotten me, not very impressive. But now I'd like to play a Barb, because on my way to 60 I had way more fun playing then I ever had with my slow Monk. Barbs seem to have a much higher DPS potential and can farm faster with sprint.

So, I've got 25 mil and want to upgrade my Barb as much as possible, which shouldn't be hard.

Please let me know what I should change, I can also steal gear from my monk. The end goal is to do Act1-2 MP1 as quickly as possible since that's got the easiest lvl63 drops, so natural MF is also a plus.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Golgothite-1393/hero/25850142

Thanks!

EDIT: Ignore the passives on the monk, I was just screwing around.
RCMDVA
Profile Joined July 2011
United States708 Posts
October 17 2012 16:25 GMT
#3323
On October 18 2012 01:15 Golgothite wrote:
Hello All,

I just got a barb to 60 and I'm looking to upgrade my gear. My first char was Monk and I tended to be way too tanky so I've sunk a lot of money/time into it trying to up my All-Res and survivability and it always felt like I was spinning my wheels. I've included my profile so you can take a look at what my time has gotten me, not very impressive. But now I'd like to play a Barb, because on my way to 60 I had way more fun playing then I ever had with my slow Monk. Barbs seem to have a much higher DPS potential and can farm faster with sprint.

So, I've got 25 mil and want to upgrade my Barb as much as possible, which shouldn't be hard.

Please let me know what I should change, I can also steal gear from my monk. The end goal is to do Act1-2 MP1 as quickly as possible since that's got the easiest lvl63 drops, so natural MF is also a plus.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Golgothite-1393/hero/25850142

Thanks!

EDIT: Ignore the passives on the monk, I was just screwing around.


I would decide which piece you want to have as your additional movement speed (in additon to boots) and look for that first.. Like Tyraels Might (chest), Lacuni's (bracer), Compass Rose (ring). Getting +25% movement speed really changes the way you play. Also... the AH prices will be pretty crazy for the next 2-3 weeks with the upgrade in loot drops.
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
October 17 2012 17:46 GMT
#3324
On October 17 2012 16:16 Black Gun wrote:
any experience from live servers yet? patch will not be deployed until later today on EU

From my experience yesterday, normal farming runs are definitely slowed down. If you're used to doing 10 minute Alkaiser runs there's basically no way you can match that speed because it's very difficult to keep up fury in areas without many mobs.

After tweaking some skills I was able to do keywardens/ubers on MP8-9, haven't tried 10 yet but I think it should be doable. I feel like I need to get more HP for higher MP though, with 56k hp my hp is getting spiked to 1/2 quite often, definitely a little scary.
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
October 17 2012 18:18 GMT
#3325
Not using ww at all. I made a hota build that is doing really well so far. Farming mp 6-7 pretty fast with 130k dps
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
October 17 2012 18:45 GMT
#3326
MP6-7 seems inefficient, I'm farming MP3 with 200k (no WW) dps and I feel that I can't do much more with a reasonable speed. The main factor for me is the ability to one-shot white mobs with a crit, I doubt I'll be able to do it past MP4. Maybe Act I is viable, but after months of act III it seems absolutely empty (I still love it though).

Anyway, monster damage has been reduced A LOT. I'm safer at MP3 than I was pre-patch. The only thing than annoys me is War Cry, for some reason the 20 fury gained drop immediately to 19 so I'm not able to cast Sprint or BRage. Is anyone experiencing the same?
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
October 17 2012 19:06 GMT
#3327
On October 18 2012 03:45 Big G wrote:
The only thing than annoys me is War Cry, for some reason the 20 fury gained drop immediately to 19 so I'm not able to cast Sprint or BRage. Is anyone experiencing the same?

yes. but since i switched to animosity in my passives, this issue is gone.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
LingsAreBunnies
Profile Joined September 2011
United States103 Posts
October 17 2012 20:14 GMT
#3328
hm what are the easiest way for me to increase my survivability, and what approximate stats should I aim for to be able to do ubers at mp 7+? budget is around 200m or so.

https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/INeedLings-1648/hero/3247163

with my current stats, I can only go up to mp6 for ubers comfortably, doing mp7 requires many deaths as the increased damage taken becomes a lot more noticeable, especially with siegebreakers reflect damage. Im thinking replacing my helm with a mempo, are there other/better changes, dont think just changing that will be enough.
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
October 17 2012 20:46 GMT
#3329
Vile ward.
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 21:32:32
October 17 2012 20:53 GMT
#3330
quick question, what's the formula to calculate a ww/sprint's true dps? is it as simple as plugging in your char sheet dps, and getting something back? halp hairy?!

http://d3up.com/b/33791#gear

nm, found sssdrawr's calc

turns out with my current setup, my true dps against elite demons is
tDPS: 245355

that's... more than i expected O_o.
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
October 17 2012 21:12 GMT
#3331
On October 18 2012 05:14 LingsAreBunnies wrote:
hm what are the easiest way for me to increase my survivability, and what approximate stats should I aim for to be able to do ubers at mp 7+? budget is around 200m or so.

https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/INeedLings-1648/hero/3247163

with my current stats, I can only go up to mp6 for ubers comfortably, doing mp7 requires many deaths as the increased damage taken becomes a lot more noticeable, especially with siegebreakers reflect damage. Im thinking replacing my helm with a mempo, are there other/better changes, dont think just changing that will be enough.

I think your main concerns are hp and sustain. A band-aid would be to first try to resocket some things with vit, see if you can get to 50k+ hp because damage definitely won't be a problem for you.

I think if you're going to drop 5 piece IK, the 2 pieces to replace would be the boots first and then the helm. I would first replace the boots with iceclimbers with vit. You could probably gain ~200 stats from switching to ice climbers (not to mention the %hp) and I don't think 24% movespeed is necessary for ubers so you don't have to empty your bank to get 12% movespeed iceclimbers.
Coolness53
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 21:04:30
October 18 2012 20:56 GMT
#3332
Just came back recently. Can anyone give me a noobie guide on WW spec? Just looking for a normal spec I can use.
Fruitdealer, DongRaeGu, and Soulkey
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
October 19 2012 09:47 GMT
#3333
On October 19 2012 05:56 Coolness53 wrote:
Just came back recently. Can anyone give me a noobie guide on WW spec? Just looking for a normal spec I can use.

Here's a decent video guide on the WW spec



How's everyone doing on the ubers? I find carrying my stormshield in my inventory definitely helps, very useful in the skeleton king fight and I like popping it on if my WotB runs out.
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
October 19 2012 11:39 GMT
#3334
With rend I can tank every uber boss on MP4. Didn't try further.

Coolness53
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
October 19 2012 16:49 GMT
#3335
Thank you so much Arc_Man .
Fruitdealer, DongRaeGu, and Soulkey
Levistus
Profile Joined December 2009
1134 Posts
October 19 2012 18:06 GMT
#3336
i cant seem to keep wotb up in this patch. anyone else having this problem?
hey man just curious
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
October 19 2012 18:18 GMT
#3337
On October 20 2012 03:06 Levistus wrote:
i cant seem to keep wotb up in this patch. anyone else having this problem?

it's harder for sure, you won't be able to just blitz through entire zones without it ever dropping off (all the more reason why the 24% run speed is important now), but against elites you should be able to keep it up except against the most annoying runner type mobs. and that's where you'll need it most (cc immunity)
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
October 19 2012 18:53 GMT
#3338
If you have enough defense to survive one thing to try (along with using animosity/boon) would be overpower with momentum.
Hairy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1169 Posts
October 19 2012 21:05 GMT
#3339
On October 20 2012 03:53 ArC_man wrote:
If you have enough defense to survive one thing to try (along with using animosity/boon) would be overpower with momentum.

With WOTB and using overpower's 10% rune I was at ~2.75 attack speed and 70% crit, but still not enough to reliably maintain WOTB :| It's fine through elite engagements, but I find it's impossible to prevent it wearing off travelling between packs etc.

I'm moving towards other builds now, as ww/sprint just isn't the same fun when you have to struggle for fury. When there are few enemies around sprint often doesn't even give you back it's fury cost.
Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
October 19 2012 21:25 GMT
#3340
hmm, what about that sprint/hota hybrid build that i suggested some pages ago?
basically a hota build, but with sprint for faster movement.

in general though, i dont feel like ww/sprint build suffered a lot. yes, perma-wrath is not possible anymore, but lets be honest, permanent cc immunity was overpowered anyway. just save it for nasty elites, keeping it up through an elite fight isnt much of a problem.

overall, i think barbs got away quite fine with the patch. just ask the poor wizards if you want to know what "nerfing builds to death" really means.
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