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On June 08 2012 22:16 diehilde wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 21:04 ihasaKAROT wrote:
We have spiritwalk and vessel, thats the only reason. I wouldnt put it as 'best class' but more something like 'most likely to get out of a sticky situation'
Doenst make it, the best. yeah thats the only reason, so what? it 100% does make it the best class because when u get almost 1 shot by everything, everything is a sticky situation. There is a reason the one guy progressing in act3 inferno hc is a WD.
hohoho, one guy progressing in hc inferno? theres loooaads of people progressing in act3 inferno.
It doenst make it the best class , id rather be doing alot more dmg then doing no damage and dying 1 hit less
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On June 08 2012 23:26 BurningSera wrote:
the thing is imo WD is probably the most versatile and fun to play class up until Hell. Thanks to our awesome CC spells plus pets and various nuking spells, there were so many combination of spells i used throughout my gameplay from normal to hell. I just change my spells setup whenever i was bored/felt like it. WD is almost like the combination of different playstyles of necro in one character, thanks to the rune system.
It is very disheartening to see that WD is absolutely shit in inferno mainly because we are forced to play as a sub-par dpser since all the pets related spells are useless. My mate even joked that either the people in blizzard's testing group are racists or simply wanna piss WD players off lol
I have to agree with this. For me the witch doctor was definatelly my favorite to play up until hell but then it takes a turn for the worse the closer you get to inferno.
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On June 08 2012 20:38 diehilde wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2012 17:50 StrifeCro wrote:
witch doctor is terrible lol. i have done everything in the game as a witch doctor and played a ton with all the other class and i can safely say that witch doctor is far and away the worst class in the game. gonna reroll barb and sell all my witch doctor gear(over 100m worth of gear lol) oh yeah? done everything? beaten inferno hardcore? dont talk out of your ass, wd is the best class out of the non-melees for HC.
... and exactly what makes you think that WD is the best class for HC?
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On June 08 2012 23:26 BurningSera wrote:
the thing is imo WD is probably the most versatile and fun to play class up until Hell.
Agree 100%! This is what I've been telling my friends.
I'm starting a new hardcore Doctor now, because he's so fun to level up.
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On June 08 2012 23:34 EonuS wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 20:38 diehilde wrote:On June 07 2012 17:50 StrifeCro wrote:
witch doctor is terrible lol. i have done everything in the game as a witch doctor and played a ton with all the other class and i can safely say that witch doctor is far and away the worst class in the game. gonna reroll barb and sell all my witch doctor gear(over 100m worth of gear lol) oh yeah? done everything? beaten inferno hardcore? dont talk out of your ass, wd is the best class out of the non-melees for HC. ... and exactly what makes you think that WD is the best class for HC?
he doesn't even say that it is, he just says it's better than wizard and DH, which might be true. with spirit vessel you can play really really defensively, although certain elites are so fast that you can hardly escape sometimes... however softcore is another point.
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Still, wd is by far the least played class lvl 60 hardcore.
*Barbarian: 22.67% * Monk: 21.83% * Demon Hunter: 21.04% * Wizard: 19.23% * Witch Doctor: 15.23%
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On June 08 2012 22:16 diehilde wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 21:04 ihasaKAROT wrote:
We have spiritwalk and vessel, thats the only reason. I wouldnt put it as 'best class' but more something like 'most likely to get out of a sticky situation'
Doenst make it, the best. yeah thats the only reason, so what? it 100% does make it the best class because when u get almost 1 shot by everything, everything is a sticky situation. There is a reason the one guy progressing in act3 inferno hc is a WD.
that guy (Krippi) got into A3 because he got a WP there
if he didn't get an A3 waypoint, it would have taken him quite a while to build up the gear to make him confident enough to attempt Belial on his WD
he's still far more skilled than SC WDs though. so many people complain about Inferno difficulty, yet this guy was making progress through A2 with 20K DPS, ~400 resist, 40-50K HP which is hardly amazing for A2
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On June 09 2012 00:15 udgnim wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 22:16 diehilde wrote:On June 08 2012 21:04 ihasaKAROT wrote:
We have spiritwalk and vessel, thats the only reason. I wouldnt put it as 'best class' but more something like 'most likely to get out of a sticky situation'
Doenst make it, the best. yeah thats the only reason, so what? it 100% does make it the best class because when u get almost 1 shot by everything, everything is a sticky situation. There is a reason the one guy progressing in act3 inferno hc is a WD. that guy (Krippi) got into A3 because he got a WP there if he didn't get an A3 waypoint, it would have taken him quite a while to build up the gear to make him confident enough to attempt Belial on his WD he's still far more skilled than SC WDs though. so many people complain about Inferno difficulty, yet this guy was making progress through A2 with 20K DPS, ~400 resist, 40-50K HP which is hardly amazing for A2
i know he didnt kill belial but who can blame him? it would be retarded to do belial with a ranged char on inferno hc. Still, he progressed up until tower of the damned in act3 on his own with basically everything one shotting him. If it wasnt for Spirit Vessel hed be dead looooong ago. Its pretty damn impressing, at least a lot more than the barbs progressing who basically just need top notch gear and still can take quite a few hits. Krippi dances on the edge the entire time while the barbs who are that far just have to stall for zerk/shield wall and go in like its normal 99% of the time.
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On June 08 2012 23:31 ihasaKAROT wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 22:16 diehilde wrote:On June 08 2012 21:04 ihasaKAROT wrote:
We have spiritwalk and vessel, thats the only reason. I wouldnt put it as 'best class' but more something like 'most likely to get out of a sticky situation'
Doenst make it, the best. yeah thats the only reason, so what? it 100% does make it the best class because when u get almost 1 shot by everything, everything is a sticky situation. There is a reason the one guy progressing in act3 inferno hc is a WD. hohoho, one guy progressing in hc inferno? theres loooaads of people progressing in act3 inferno. It doenst make it the best class , id rather be doing alot more dmg then doing no damage and dying 1 hit less
no there arent. who else is progressing in hc act 3 inferno?
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Need to test a no IAS 2H DoT Build myself when i'm back home on sunday. Always loved Locust but didn't worked in act 2 with my recent IAS 1H+Mojo gear (also the range always was a problem). Might even go without Locust but Haunt + Dire Bats - gonna see ... ^^
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Just hit 70k dps. Huge improvement from 55k dps yesterday. Those annoying ranged creeps often die in one dart cycle, reducing my deaths by more than half.
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On June 09 2012 16:09 DeltruS wrote:
Just hit 70k dps. Huge improvement from 55k dps yesterday. Those annoying ranged creeps often die in one dart cycle, reducing my deaths by more than half.
Can you post your items/stats please.
On the other note, I just beat diablo on inferno today! Here are my items/skills.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/FDbAo.jpg)
The weapon is a 929 dps 1H sword with 15% IAS.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/aqFJz.jpg)
Jaunt/Jinx/Bruiser/Unstable Realm/Unbreakable Grasp/Splinters
At the beginning of 2nd phase, I popped everything except spirit walk, killed my shadow and spirit walk away when diablo blinked at me.
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On June 09 2012 23:20 BnK wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2012 16:09 DeltruS wrote:
Just hit 70k dps. Huge improvement from 55k dps yesterday. Those annoying ranged creeps often die in one dart cycle, reducing my deaths by more than half. Can you post your items/stats please. On the other note, I just beat diablo on inferno today! Here are my items/skills. The weapon is a 929 dps 1H sword with 15% IAS. Jaunt/Jinx/Bruiser/Unstable Realm/Unbreakable Grasp/Splinters At the beginning of 2nd phase, I popped everything except spirit walk, killed my shadow and spirit walk away when diablo blinked at me.
Hmm.. you get 1-shot by everything right? Not including spirit vessel. I have more dps than you. I guess it's time for me to try killing Diablo, since I can't farm underbridge anymore =/
Any way to glitch to him without clearing the entire act? From siegebreaker, really.
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I'm doing Siegebreaker runs on Inferno with 44k damage and 35k hp. I'm curious how long these runs take WDs with similar stats to mine, because each one takes about an hour for me, give or take ~15 minutes. I find myself dying a lot because elites simply have too much HP - I can kite them to an extent, but in the end I get cornered and resort to just constantly respawning with Tyrael keeping their HP from resetting. This clearly racks up a ton of repair costs.
Are other people dying as much as I am/having similar experiences farming Siegebreaker Inferno, or am I doing something terribly wrong?
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On June 10 2012 05:51 HolyArrow wrote:
I'm doing Siegebreaker runs on Inferno with 44k damage and 35k hp. I'm curious how long these runs take WDs with similar stats to mine, because each one takes about an hour for me, give or take ~15 minutes. I find myself dying a lot because elites simply have too much HP - I can kite them to an extent, but in the end I get cornered and resort to just constantly respawning with Tyrael keeping their HP from resetting. This clearly racks up a ton of repair costs.
Are other people dying as much as I am/having similar experiences farming Siegebreaker Inferno, or am I doing something terribly wrong?
Haha I tried to do siegebreaker yesterday for the first time and after dieing about 10 times I quit haha, I THINK once you die you are supposed to just stay dead until Tyreal kills everything on screen, then respawn and repeat if/when you die again. I have 50k damage and 22k health or so.
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i think you are basically skipping almost everything to rush to diablo if you didnt have at least 40k hp. Personally i wont even consider to go inferno diablo if i couldnt rape those fallen angels in the most inhumane way. hate them so much arrrrrggggg!!!
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Skipping an entire act4 just to kill diablo is so stupid idea. What's the point?
Kudos to all WDs who killed Diablo while being one shotted by every blink. I had to switch a helmet for socketed +life and all other sockets on my gear for vit instead of int so I could survive one hit, still it took ~40 tries.
About siegebreaker, atm 69k dps, pretty tanky (can take good few hits before dying) and it takes me ~40 min I guess. Still, I prefer ponies, but you can't farm ponies for a week straight cause it will melt your brain... so yeah... switching it a bit for siegebreaker sometimes.
Planning to start farming Cydea + Azmo tommorow if I win auctions for shoulders+helmet which will give me +90 allres, +1800 hp, +some dmg. (poor 12 milions  )
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Basically, no gold to upgrade all my items. I sacrificed hp (from 45k to 18k) in order to boost my dps, a la glass cannon style. I guess I'll go find somewhere to farm that doesn't involve 200 deaths...
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IMO forcing yourself to farm higher acts and die all the time because you are glass cannon is a wrong way to play.
Glass cannon is good for act 1 where monsters are easily dodgable and you will survive an arrow or two anyways.
I hope that the next patch will make people farm at the level they actually are and not rushing to siegebreaker (which isn't really so good of a farm place)
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On June 10 2012 09:08 DrGreen wrote:Skipping an entire act4 just to kill diablo is so stupid idea. What's the point? Kudos to all WDs who killed Diablo while being one shotted by every blink. I had to switch a helmet for socketed +life and all other sockets on my gear for vit instead of int so I could survive one hit, still it took ~40 tries. About siegebreaker, atm 69k dps, pretty tanky (can take good few hits before dying) and it takes me ~40 min I guess. Still, I prefer ponies, but you can't farm ponies for a week straight cause it will melt your brain... so yeah... switching it a bit for siegebreaker sometimes. Planning to start farming Cydea + Azmo tommorow if I win auctions for shoulders+helmet which will give me +90 allres, +1800 hp, +some dmg. (poor 12 milions )
If u mean the teleport, u can avoid it in all phases making the whole fight just being on how u deal with ur add.
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