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Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
April 25 2014 19:39 GMT
#5101
On April 26 2014 04:37 dAPhREAk wrote:
of those things, only soj, weapon and witching hour can be gambled, right?

And Andy's helm too I believe.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 25 2014 19:40 GMT
#5102
I'd never gamble for weapons or rings tbh. Really poor efficiency of shards.
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Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
April 25 2014 19:45 GMT
#5103
They are supposedly changing it next patch so that when you gamble weapons you won't be able to get any unusable items for that character, which will help with gambling weapons but still not be efficient unless you just really need that special weapon.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 25 2014 19:47 GMT
#5104
On April 26 2014 04:39 Valiver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2014 04:37 dAPhREAk wrote:
of those things, only soj, weapon and witching hour can be gambled, right?

And Andy's helm too I believe.

oops. thats where i got my current andy's. lol =)

i am just debating where to spend my shards. i have soj and andys, so i guess i will try to get the witching hour.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 25 2014 19:48 GMT
#5105
Bul-Kathos Wedding Band stands in your way, lol. That ring seems to be 50% of the legendary ring drops for me. GL gambling it at 10 shards each. With the general consensus from data being 1 legendary every 400-500 shards on 5 shard items, that's every 800-1000 shards when it comes to rings. Farming rifts gives you the doubled drop chance and the blood shards plus playing on T1 unlocks those difficulty-limited items, so Rift It Forward and forget bounties once you get your RROG. I haven't joined in on that yet but I feel like I get most of my legendary drops after a rift guardian is dead, so I tend to clear them if the density is decent.

Make sure you're clicking all the lootable objects / breakables, tons of free pulls on the slot machine from those alone. Got my Jade Harvester shoulders from one of those vases in A4 Silver Spire. Blackthorne's chestpiece from a white chest. Zuni's boots or chest from one of those zombies that comes out of the furnaces on A1. I'm sure it's just RNG /timing but I feel like I've wasted my rift fragments if I haven't cleared out 90%+ of a rift. Been bouncing between using my Wiz and my WD depending on how much kiting I want to do.

Storm Armor / Frozen Storm is really great for low-maintenance breakage (free xp from breakable object bonuses, sometimes you get lucky with drops too like I mentioned above) so you can just walk by those things instead of stopping to click when they aren't too far out of your way.

TLDR: break breakables, loot lootables, open openables!
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 25 2014 19:52 GMT
#5106
according to this, rings are 2.3% of drops. that may change as more information is collected, but they have collected a lot so far.

http://www.diablofans.com/forums/diablo-iii-general-forums/diablo-iii-general-discussion/85636-gambling-drop-rates-summary-part-2-share-your-post
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 25 2014 19:59 GMT
#5107
The sad part is, that BKWB ring is so bad I don't even equip it on my followers for toughness until I find appropriate STR rings (lol smart loot backfires a little bit, guess I need to dick around on my crusader)
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Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 21:03:35
April 25 2014 21:01 GMT
#5108
On April 26 2014 03:55 Glacierz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2014 02:23 dAPhREAk wrote:
whats end game gear for wizard? anyone have a link to a profile that is well developed?

vyr's seems decent if you are doing an arcane build.
tal rasha's final bonus seems silly since most people are focusing on one element, not all elements.


General consensus is RRoG, Aughild's Shoulder + Bracers, 2-3 piece Vyr's, Witching Hour, and Andy helm. I think the rest of the slots depend on your build. Tal Ammy, Armor, and Source is pretty good if you are willing to give up mirror ball.

My ideal setup would be:
RRoG
SoJ
Aughild Shoulder
Aughild Bracers
Vyr Pants
Vyr Gloves
Vyr Boots
Witching Hour
Andy Helm
Tal Armor
Tal Ammy
Tal Source
Weapon of your choice depending on the build.

You get a large amount of elite dmg / mitigation plus 2 full set bonus, which is pretty sick.

i wouldnt necessarily call witching hour and andys BiS for all builds. particularly since AS isnt a helpful stat for, e.g., disintegrate builds.

imho this build is close to perfect for arcane builds:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/avoid-2691/hero/19239557
ofc, he is using aughilds shoulders in his usual setup, he just tp'd to town and logged out with homing pads.

in group play, he replaces the unity with an arcane/49cd soj.



edit: im no big fan of 4p tals bonus myself, but you can easily trigger 3 of the 4 meteor types if you are using an arcane build + sparkflint + black hole supermassive.


"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-26 00:42:05
April 26 2014 00:40 GMT
#5109
On April 26 2014 06:01 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2014 03:55 Glacierz wrote:
On April 26 2014 02:23 dAPhREAk wrote:
whats end game gear for wizard? anyone have a link to a profile that is well developed?

vyr's seems decent if you are doing an arcane build.
tal rasha's final bonus seems silly since most people are focusing on one element, not all elements.


General consensus is RRoG, Aughild's Shoulder + Bracers, 2-3 piece Vyr's, Witching Hour, and Andy helm. I think the rest of the slots depend on your build. Tal Ammy, Armor, and Source is pretty good if you are willing to give up mirror ball.

My ideal setup would be:
RRoG
SoJ
Aughild Shoulder
Aughild Bracers
Vyr Pants
Vyr Gloves
Vyr Boots
Witching Hour
Andy Helm
Tal Armor
Tal Ammy
Tal Source
Weapon of your choice depending on the build.

You get a large amount of elite dmg / mitigation plus 2 full set bonus, which is pretty sick.

i wouldnt necessarily call witching hour and andys BiS for all builds. particularly since AS isnt a helpful stat for, e.g., disintegrate builds.

imho this build is close to perfect for arcane builds:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/avoid-2691/hero/19239557
ofc, he is using aughilds shoulders in his usual setup, he just tp'd to town and logged out with homing pads.

in group play, he replaces the unity with an arcane/49cd soj.



edit: im no big fan of 4p tals bonus myself, but you can easily trigger 3 of the 4 meteor types if you are using an arcane build + sparkflint + black hole supermassive.



Your right, that guy has a pretty nice setup. would love for my wizard to have his gear. the glove of worship is a nice touch to the gear yet still having 3sets. too bad he's not usin a level 70 tal rasha source.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-26 03:27:41
April 26 2014 03:26 GMT
#5110
i would say harringtons is better than WH in most situations. at best get a WH on switch for maps without clicky.

that diablofans thing. the number of ring rolls is 2k. it's not statistically significant difference between 1.5% and 2.3% with those number of rolls.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
April 26 2014 14:23 GMT
#5111
Any tips as to how to farm for Vyr's set?

Any further tips?: Link to hero
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Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
April 26 2014 14:30 GMT
#5112
On April 26 2014 23:23 Ghanburighan wrote:
Any tips as to how to farm for Vyr's set?

Any further tips?: Link to hero

reroll attack speed or cooldown reduction on ammy to crit chance.
get a weapon with socket.

I am also interested in the Vyr question.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 26 2014 14:50 GMT
#5113
eh just do rifts lol. no targeted way of farming that
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 26 2014 21:59 GMT
#5114
Clear rifts T1+ and slap Tyreal once per session. Helps him get used to being a mortal. Create a blood altar to the RNGesus. Sacrifice Irena over and over by not equipping her with any survival gear. High-5 Adria in act 5. Do the funky chicken in public like you would if nobody was watching. Find all the scrolls near the Khasim Outpost on campaign mode that are LOST references. Start a character from level one on hardcore and die when your first legendary is still on the ground. Round up all the shark lizard enemies in act 2 at a shrine and use the Nemesis bracers to spawn more of them. If it fails you have to restart.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
April 26 2014 22:22 GMT
#5115
:D Roger that, getting on it.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 26 2014 23:10 GMT
#5116
unfortunate choice of reroll on the sunkeeper.

We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
April 27 2014 03:20 GMT
#5117
On April 27 2014 08:10 oneofthem wrote:
unfortunate choice of reroll on the sunkeeper.


That is pretty much a max damage roll on the sunkeeper...all you had to do was trade 9% damage for a socket @_@.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
April 27 2014 06:40 GMT
#5118
On April 27 2014 12:20 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 08:10 oneofthem wrote:
unfortunate choice of reroll on the sunkeeper.


That is pretty much a max damage roll on the sunkeeper...all you had to do was trade 9% damage for a socket @_@.

but got stuck.
Oh, that's an interesting point, thanks. I was going through the numbers for a disintegrate build, I was trying to calculate whether I get more spell damage from crit or this 9% boost. Perhaps I messed up. Anyone want to convince me I'm wrong with numbers?
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
April 27 2014 09:31 GMT
#5119
On April 27 2014 15:40 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 12:20 Amui wrote:
On April 27 2014 08:10 oneofthem wrote:
unfortunate choice of reroll on the sunkeeper.


That is pretty much a max damage roll on the sunkeeper...all you had to do was trade 9% damage for a socket @_@.

but got stuck.
Oh, that's an interesting point, thanks. I was going through the numbers for a disintegrate build, I was trying to calculate whether I get more spell damage from crit or this 9% boost. Perhaps I messed up. Anyone want to convince me I'm wrong with numbers?

cc = 5 + 39 = 44
cd = 50 + 183 = 233

damage multiplier from crits as it is now:
1 + 0.44*2.33 = 2.0252

damage multiplier with 110% cd more (you would likely get more, but let's be conservative):
1 + 0.44*3.43 = 2.5092

damage multiplier by socket with 110% cd gem:
2.5092/2.0252 ~ 1.24
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
April 27 2014 09:51 GMT
#5120
On April 27 2014 18:31 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 15:40 Ghanburighan wrote:
On April 27 2014 12:20 Amui wrote:
On April 27 2014 08:10 oneofthem wrote:
unfortunate choice of reroll on the sunkeeper.


That is pretty much a max damage roll on the sunkeeper...all you had to do was trade 9% damage for a socket @_@.

but got stuck.
Oh, that's an interesting point, thanks. I was going through the numbers for a disintegrate build, I was trying to calculate whether I get more spell damage from crit or this 9% boost. Perhaps I messed up. Anyone want to convince me I'm wrong with numbers?

cc = 5 + 39 = 44
cd = 50 + 183 = 233

damage multiplier from crits as it is now:
1 + 0.44*2.33 = 2.0252

damage multiplier with 110% cd more (you would likely get more, but let's be conservative):
1 + 0.44*3.43 = 2.5092

damage multiplier by socket with 110% cd gem:
2.5092/2.0252 ~ 1.24


Thanks, now I know I guess I'll need to wait for another good weapon.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
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