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Napoleon53
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark167 Posts
May 21 2012 21:52 GMT
#381
On May 22 2012 06:45 rezoacken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 04:56 Napoleon53 wrote:
The ultimate exploit spam wizard. You thought low life- force armour is an imba exploit?? this is much worse.

This build is so stupid that it might spoil the game (and your hand). Therefore I use the spoiler-tag.
+ Show Spoiler +
I havn't read anyone talking about the critical mass build, which is fairly new, and extremely effective.

It is a little complicated but the idea of this build is to mass critical hit with lighting/poison bolts. With the passive "critical mass" you remove some cooldown for your critical hits. The lightning venom combo does however give you insane chances to mass critical hit --> all cooldowns insta refresh each second.

This build depends on high crit-chance, so i would highly recommend to log into auction house and buy gloves, helm, bracers, orb with critical chance (you also want to have high dps, so ofc try to keep the intelligence as high as possible). I brought new gear for around 50k .. it shouldnt be hard to find something.

The base of the setup would be like this:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#b.S!g!c.Y ( this requires lvl 54, but you could use another lightning spell before that).

However I would HIGHLY recommend you to also add these skills:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#b.SOXY!gf!c.YYaY

This only leave you with a passive (here I use paralysis for some extra stun), and a free skill (many funny options, i like to use explosive blast for xtra damage - but Wave of Force is also interesting - mass mirror images are crazy).

So... the idea of this build is that one shot of living lightning will completely RESET ALL YOUR COOLDOWNS. making you able to spam infinite diamond skin for immortality, and infinite frost nova for the complete permafreeze stun lock. This is possible because Frost nova and Diamond skin DO NOT cost any arcaine power. So as soon as you see an enemy you should start spamming everything (of course not magic weapon or energy armour ^^).

If you do this correctly, you will be able to kill almost everything. I went through hell with this build permafreezing diablo hell. In . In inferno some mops will just insta kill you no matter what.. so with my shitty gear I did get into trouble. Also if you somehow cannot start the criticalhit wave (because of rare mops with shield) then you cannot insta refresh your diamond skin - and you might die. But in generel this build will crush everything - including your poor fingers.
The limit of this build is actually often the lag, and also your ability to mass spam your poor keyboard .

I would really love to see, if it also is possible to permafreeze diablo inferno with 4 wizards all using this build :D. Share comment on this build. Hopefully blizzard is going to fix this build.. It is so stupid.


I actually thought of using a build taking advantage of critical mass and force armor at the same time. Do you know why living lightning and venom make so much crits ?



Well I'm not fully sure if I know why. I guess it is because lightning hits ALOT of times, and that the way poison damage works, it just multiplies the amount of hits. So a crapton of hits equals plenty of critical hits too.
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
May 21 2012 22:28 GMT
#382
To test it I removed my gear that has vita on it, it makes it pretty funny running into mobs naked spamming crystal shell.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 21 2012 22:49 GMT
#383
just test out that build... the moment you hit a frost nova more than 5 targets to get the 15% crit chance buff... your entire skill bar is reset due to mass crit proc.... and my basic crit chance was only 5%...

I am still ify on should i invest moneys into a wizard tank item set or not... Blizzard could simply nerf the build tomorrow and the entire gold pool went away like nothing...
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
hkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia354 Posts
May 21 2012 22:55 GMT
#384
Let me put it simply.

FORCE ARMOR WILL NOT BE NERFED

Why?

Look at wizards skills.

Look at all other class skills.

Look back at wizards skills again.

What's the difference? Every other class has at least one 'active' damage reduction skill.

If you nerf FA to uselessness, what do wizards have? Diamond skin that goes away in .1 seconds? Would wizard damage have to be buffed to sky high levels to compensate? Most likely.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
May 21 2012 22:59 GMT
#385
I've been thinking about the whole 1h vs 2h debate. The build I'm using is centred around venom hydra and blizzard doing damage most of my damage, with Magic Missile primarily used for building up charges for Arcane Dynamo. Would a slow 2her still be better for this build, or would a fast 1h/oh be better simply to build up charges? I'm not quite sure how weapon damage/speed translates over to blizzard/hydra.
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rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 23:32:32
May 21 2012 23:22 GMT
#386
On May 22 2012 07:55 hkf wrote:
Let me put it simply.

FORCE ARMOR WILL NOT BE NERFED

Why?

Look at wizards skills.

Look at all other class skills.

Look back at wizards skills again.

What's the difference? Every other class has at least one 'active' damage reduction skill.

If you nerf FA to uselessness, what do wizards have? Diamond skin that goes away in .1 seconds? Would wizard damage have to be buffed to sky high levels to compensate? Most likely.


Well I agree about force armor not being nerfed even though the mechanic is a bit weird its the same as DH using smoke screen with preparation. Force armor builds are incredibly weak against forms of dots.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 21 2012 23:41 GMT
#387
btw, FA doesnt block mobs enrage timer. Meaning that champions still 1 shot you if you cant kill them fast enough. Enrage in D3 works like a negative buff on the player instead of a giant dmg buff on the mobs.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Yttrasil
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden651 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 23:54:47
May 21 2012 23:41 GMT
#388
On May 22 2012 04:56 Napoleon53 wrote:
The ultimate exploit spam wizard. You thought low life- force armour is an imba exploit?? this is much worse.

This build is so stupid that it might spoil the game (and your hand). Therefore I use the spoiler-tag.
+ Show Spoiler +
I havn't read anyone talking about the critical mass build, which is fairly new, and extremely effective.

It is a little complicated but the idea of this build is to mass critical hit with lighting/poison bolts. With the passive "critical mass" you remove some cooldown for your critical hits. The lightning venom combo does however give you insane chances to mass critical hit --> all cooldowns insta refresh each second.

This build depends on high crit-chance, so i would highly recommend to log into auction house and buy gloves, helm, bracers, orb with critical chance (you also want to have high dps, so ofc try to keep the intelligence as high as possible). I brought new gear for around 50k .. it shouldnt be hard to find something.

The base of the setup would be like this:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#b.S!g!c.Y ( this requires lvl 54, but you could use another lightning spell before that).

However I would HIGHLY recommend you to also add these skills:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#b.SOXY!gf!c.YYaY

This only leave you with a passive (here I use paralysis for some extra stun), and a free skill (many funny options, i like to use explosive blast for xtra damage - but Wave of Force is also interesting - mass mirror images are crazy).

So... the idea of this build is that one shot of living lightning will completely RESET ALL YOUR COOLDOWNS. making you able to spam infinite diamond skin for immortality, and infinite frost nova for the complete permafreeze stun lock. This is possible because Frost nova and Diamond skin DO NOT cost any arcaine power. So as soon as you see an enemy you should start spamming everything (of course not magic weapon or energy armour ^^).

If you do this correctly, you will be able to kill almost everything. I went through hell with this build permafreezing diablo hell. In . In inferno some mops will just insta kill you no matter what.. so with my shitty gear I did get into trouble. Also if you somehow cannot start the criticalhit wave (because of rare mops with shield) then you cannot insta refresh your diamond skin - and you might die. But in generel this build will crush everything - including your poor fingers.
The limit of this build is actually often the lag, and also your ability to mass spam your poor keyboard .

I would really love to see, if it also is possible to permafreeze diablo inferno with 4 wizards all using this build :D. Share comment on this build. Hopefully blizzard is going to fix this build.. It is so stupid.


Interesting, however I'd love to see this one combined with the no vita build, it makes sense and should work even better don't you think? As the big problem with it is that diamond skin doesn't last forever... any input on this?

I counted that with items it's viable to get around 30% crit, and with some specifics and really good items up to 37% crit.

I wonder do you really crit enough even with 40%+? Maybe with 4 wizards and everyone does the diamond skin/no vita.
Meh
hkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia354 Posts
May 21 2012 23:42 GMT
#389
On May 22 2012 08:41 NB wrote:
btw, FA doesnt block mobs enrage timer. Meaning that champions still 1 shot you if you cant kill them fast enough. Enrage in D3 works like a negative buff on the player instead of a giant dmg buff on the mobs.

Hmm? Source on the enrage?

I've kited mobs for a LOOOOONG time, last night even had a combo of invulnminions/extrahealth+ 2 irrevalant damage affixes (think was electrify + arcane enchanted), kited it for a good 15 mins before I could kill it
Delvin
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland141 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-22 00:45:35
May 22 2012 00:43 GMT
#390
Champions can certainly enrage. It's displayed as a red skull on their heads. No idea of the exact conditions. You can reset the mobs if this happens by zoning out and in but they'll regen to full hp as well.

Act II certainly doesn't work with the same playstyle I farmed by-now-easy act I with... (tanking by alternating diamond, image mostly, no need for force armor yet). Way too high mob dmg increase, diamond skin indeed falls in two hits from the smallest of spiders now.

Force armor+Critical mass+Diamond skin certainly sounds like it'd be pretty ridiculous. Saw some very fast cooldown refreshes at only 20% crit, no frost nova. Need a lot of new high-demand gear for the full build though.
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-22 01:51:44
May 22 2012 01:35 GMT
#391
On May 22 2012 08:41 Yttrasil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 04:56 Napoleon53 wrote:
The ultimate exploit spam wizard. You thought low life- force armour is an imba exploit?? this is much worse.

This build is so stupid that it might spoil the game (and your hand). Therefore I use the spoiler-tag.
+ Show Spoiler +
I havn't read anyone talking about the critical mass build, which is fairly new, and extremely effective.

It is a little complicated but the idea of this build is to mass critical hit with lighting/poison bolts. With the passive "critical mass" you remove some cooldown for your critical hits. The lightning venom combo does however give you insane chances to mass critical hit --> all cooldowns insta refresh each second.

This build depends on high crit-chance, so i would highly recommend to log into auction house and buy gloves, helm, bracers, orb with critical chance (you also want to have high dps, so ofc try to keep the intelligence as high as possible). I brought new gear for around 50k .. it shouldnt be hard to find something.

The base of the setup would be like this:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#b.S!g!c.Y ( this requires lvl 54, but you could use another lightning spell before that).

However I would HIGHLY recommend you to also add these skills:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#b.SOXY!gf!c.YYaY

This only leave you with a passive (here I use paralysis for some extra stun), and a free skill (many funny options, i like to use explosive blast for xtra damage - but Wave of Force is also interesting - mass mirror images are crazy).

So... the idea of this build is that one shot of living lightning will completely RESET ALL YOUR COOLDOWNS. making you able to spam infinite diamond skin for immortality, and infinite frost nova for the complete permafreeze stun lock. This is possible because Frost nova and Diamond skin DO NOT cost any arcaine power. So as soon as you see an enemy you should start spamming everything (of course not magic weapon or energy armour ^^).

If you do this correctly, you will be able to kill almost everything. I went through hell with this build permafreezing diablo hell. In . In inferno some mops will just insta kill you no matter what.. so with my shitty gear I did get into trouble. Also if you somehow cannot start the criticalhit wave (because of rare mops with shield) then you cannot insta refresh your diamond skin - and you might die. But in generel this build will crush everything - including your poor fingers.
The limit of this build is actually often the lag, and also your ability to mass spam your poor keyboard .

I would really love to see, if it also is possible to permafreeze diablo inferno with 4 wizards all using this build :D. Share comment on this build. Hopefully blizzard is going to fix this build.. It is so stupid.


Interesting, however I'd love to see this one combined with the no vita build, it makes sense and should work even better don't you think? As the big problem with it is that diamond skin doesn't last forever... any input on this?

I counted that with items it's viable to get around 30% crit, and with some specifics and really good items up to 37% crit.

I wonder do you really crit enough even with 40%+? Maybe with 4 wizards and everyone does the diamond skin/no vita.


I tested the build myself, bought 500K gear of no vita intelligence and +crit gear.

I am now at 30% crit, 10K Health and around 22K dps. Its far enough crit, the thing is living lightning just hit a lot and therefore 30% of thos dozens hit is enough crit.

The build definetly works, no vita is required to make it work in inferno, otherwise diamon skin doesn't absorb enough hits if you have too much health.

Right now its rediculously strong, I can tank champion packs with no problem in a 3 player game. I just spam Diamond shield and novas while throwing a constant stream of living lightning (fast weapon is really recommended).
The only things that are troublesome are invulnerable and any kind of dots (molten) but even then it still kinda work, you just gotta be more careful (molten vortex where a pain though).

The problem with D3 inferno right now is that wizard really dont have a lot of option for survival when they get into act 2. Force armor + no vita + diamond skin feels just mandatory. But if you play with something different that really works well in A2 and above I'll be glad to hear it.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
affinity
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States266 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-22 03:09:51
May 22 2012 02:58 GMT
#392
Just tried Napoleon53's critical mass build on inferno diablo. My equips aren't that great but MAN it's abusive - diablo couldn't hit me with anything.

I would have gotten to phase two of the diablo battle but I got dc'd, perhaps maybe I spammed too much? idk.

Oh, for anyone wondering, I have 2.01 attacks a second and 27% crit chance and can permafreeze single targets. I've only tried it in two situations - on diablo and aspect of sin (twice), but from what I could tell, the hardest part is getting the first freeze off before dying to set up the infinite stream of tiny numbers (and anything is killable with minimal gear given that you have enough time).
Teliko
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
May 22 2012 06:56 GMT
#393
Trying out the 0 vit build, quick question. For the weapon, is it better to get life steal or life on hit? I'm planning on going for a fast 1h + offhand for easier kiting and was intending on going for life steal originally, but was told life on hit would be better off.
Add a drop of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing at it.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
May 22 2012 07:17 GMT
#394
On May 22 2012 10:35 rezoacken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 08:41 Yttrasil wrote:
On May 22 2012 04:56 Napoleon53 wrote:
The ultimate exploit spam wizard. You thought low life- force armour is an imba exploit?? this is much worse.

This build is so stupid that it might spoil the game (and your hand). Therefore I use the spoiler-tag.
+ Show Spoiler +
I havn't read anyone talking about the critical mass build, which is fairly new, and extremely effective.

It is a little complicated but the idea of this build is to mass critical hit with lighting/poison bolts. With the passive "critical mass" you remove some cooldown for your critical hits. The lightning venom combo does however give you insane chances to mass critical hit --> all cooldowns insta refresh each second.

This build depends on high crit-chance, so i would highly recommend to log into auction house and buy gloves, helm, bracers, orb with critical chance (you also want to have high dps, so ofc try to keep the intelligence as high as possible). I brought new gear for around 50k .. it shouldnt be hard to find something.

The base of the setup would be like this:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#b.S!g!c.Y ( this requires lvl 54, but you could use another lightning spell before that).

However I would HIGHLY recommend you to also add these skills:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#b.SOXY!gf!c.YYaY

This only leave you with a passive (here I use paralysis for some extra stun), and a free skill (many funny options, i like to use explosive blast for xtra damage - but Wave of Force is also interesting - mass mirror images are crazy).

So... the idea of this build is that one shot of living lightning will completely RESET ALL YOUR COOLDOWNS. making you able to spam infinite diamond skin for immortality, and infinite frost nova for the complete permafreeze stun lock. This is possible because Frost nova and Diamond skin DO NOT cost any arcaine power. So as soon as you see an enemy you should start spamming everything (of course not magic weapon or energy armour ^^).

If you do this correctly, you will be able to kill almost everything. I went through hell with this build permafreezing diablo hell. In . In inferno some mops will just insta kill you no matter what.. so with my shitty gear I did get into trouble. Also if you somehow cannot start the criticalhit wave (because of rare mops with shield) then you cannot insta refresh your diamond skin - and you might die. But in generel this build will crush everything - including your poor fingers.
The limit of this build is actually often the lag, and also your ability to mass spam your poor keyboard .

I would really love to see, if it also is possible to permafreeze diablo inferno with 4 wizards all using this build :D. Share comment on this build. Hopefully blizzard is going to fix this build.. It is so stupid.


Interesting, however I'd love to see this one combined with the no vita build, it makes sense and should work even better don't you think? As the big problem with it is that diamond skin doesn't last forever... any input on this?

I counted that with items it's viable to get around 30% crit, and with some specifics and really good items up to 37% crit.

I wonder do you really crit enough even with 40%+? Maybe with 4 wizards and everyone does the diamond skin/no vita.


I tested the build myself, bought 500K gear of no vita intelligence and +crit gear.

I am now at 30% crit, 10K Health and around 22K dps. Its far enough crit, the thing is living lightning just hit a lot and therefore 30% of thos dozens hit is enough crit.

The build definetly works, no vita is required to make it work in inferno, otherwise diamon skin doesn't absorb enough hits if you have too much health.

Right now its rediculously strong, I can tank champion packs with no problem in a 3 player game. I just spam Diamond shield and novas while throwing a constant stream of living lightning (fast weapon is really recommended).
The only things that are troublesome are invulnerable and any kind of dots (molten) but even then it still kinda work, you just gotta be more careful (molten vortex where a pain though).

The problem with D3 inferno right now is that wizard really dont have a lot of option for survival when they get into act 2. Force armor + no vita + diamond skin feels just mandatory. But if you play with something different that really works well in A2 and above I'll be glad to hear it.

Really like the thought process of this qwirk. I used the FA build to get through Act II Inferno, but I'd love to try to add this in the future... as soon as someone buys my ******* auctions so that I can get some money to buy the appropriate gear for it -.-
Napoleon53
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark167 Posts
May 22 2012 07:58 GMT
#395
Oh true.. i dint mention the low vita part. Of course this build should be low vitality. Also attack speed is as mentioned important, and it helps greatly if your weapon has the "life of hit"-affix. You can add it yourself with a gem, if the weapon is socketed.
On May 22 2012 08:41 Yttrasil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 04:56 Napoleon53 wrote:
The ultimate exploit spam wizard. You thought low life- force armour is an imba exploit?? this is much worse.

This build is so stupid that it might spoil the game (and your hand). Therefore I use the spoiler-tag.
+ Show Spoiler +
I havn't read anyone talking about the critical mass build, which is fairly new, and extremely effective.

It is a little complicated but the idea of this build is to mass critical hit with lighting/poison bolts. With the passive "critical mass" you remove some cooldown for your critical hits. The lightning venom combo does however give you insane chances to mass critical hit --> all cooldowns insta refresh each second.

This build depends on high crit-chance, so i would highly recommend to log into auction house and buy gloves, helm, bracers, orb with critical chance (you also want to have high dps, so ofc try to keep the intelligence as high as possible). I brought new gear for around 50k .. it shouldnt be hard to find something.

The base of the setup would be like this:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#b.S!g!c.Y ( this requires lvl 54, but you could use another lightning spell before that).

However I would HIGHLY recommend you to also add these skills:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#b.SOXY!gf!c.YYaY

This only leave you with a passive (here I use paralysis for some extra stun), and a free skill (many funny options, i like to use explosive blast for xtra damage - but Wave of Force is also interesting - mass mirror images are crazy).

So... the idea of this build is that one shot of living lightning will completely RESET ALL YOUR COOLDOWNS. making you able to spam infinite diamond skin for immortality, and infinite frost nova for the complete permafreeze stun lock. This is possible because Frost nova and Diamond skin DO NOT cost any arcaine power. So as soon as you see an enemy you should start spamming everything (of course not magic weapon or energy armour ^^).

If you do this correctly, you will be able to kill almost everything. I went through hell with this build permafreezing diablo hell. In . In inferno some mops will just insta kill you no matter what.. so with my shitty gear I did get into trouble. Also if you somehow cannot start the criticalhit wave (because of rare mops with shield) then you cannot insta refresh your diamond skin - and you might die. But in generel this build will crush everything - including your poor fingers.
The limit of this build is actually often the lag, and also your ability to mass spam your poor keyboard .

I would really love to see, if it also is possible to permafreeze diablo inferno with 4 wizards all using this build :D. Share comment on this build. Hopefully blizzard is going to fix this build.. It is so stupid.


Interesting, however I'd love to see this one combined with the no vita build, it makes sense and should work even better don't you think? As the big problem with it is that diamond skin doesn't last forever... any input on this?

I counted that with items it's viable to get around 30% crit, and with some specifics and really good items up to 37% crit.

I wonder do you really crit enough even with 40%+? Maybe with 4 wizards and everyone does the diamond skin/no vita.


I don't think it is that important. When testing this build I didn't even had the gear, and just used the 5% base crit-chance. It worked, but was a bit too low. So with new gear I turned it into 20% chance. With 20% I always insta-reset all cooldowns. I dont think more is even necessary. Try it out yourself... instead of theorycrafting. The lightning/venom combo is really bugged.


but from what I could tell, the hardest part is getting the first freeze off before dying to set up the infinite stream of tiny numbers (and anything is killable with minimal gear given that you have enough time).

Ya against bosses I actually think that mass mirror image will help greatly... try it out. It is however unfortunate that their life is based on your own life (which probably is very low, if you went low vita).


Also a funny sidenote. If you somehow can get your fingers in an orb with "adds X arcaine power after each hit", then you will also have infinity arcaine power. This is not as usefull as it actually sounds, but does work fine with the explosive blast.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
May 22 2012 08:01 GMT
#396
On May 22 2012 10:35 rezoacken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 08:41 Yttrasil wrote:
On May 22 2012 04:56 Napoleon53 wrote:
The ultimate exploit spam wizard. You thought low life- force armour is an imba exploit?? this is much worse.

This build is so stupid that it might spoil the game (and your hand). Therefore I use the spoiler-tag.
+ Show Spoiler +
I havn't read anyone talking about the critical mass build, which is fairly new, and extremely effective.

It is a little complicated but the idea of this build is to mass critical hit with lighting/poison bolts. With the passive "critical mass" you remove some cooldown for your critical hits. The lightning venom combo does however give you insane chances to mass critical hit --> all cooldowns insta refresh each second.

This build depends on high crit-chance, so i would highly recommend to log into auction house and buy gloves, helm, bracers, orb with critical chance (you also want to have high dps, so ofc try to keep the intelligence as high as possible). I brought new gear for around 50k .. it shouldnt be hard to find something.

The base of the setup would be like this:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#b.S!g!c.Y ( this requires lvl 54, but you could use another lightning spell before that).

However I would HIGHLY recommend you to also add these skills:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#b.SOXY!gf!c.YYaY

This only leave you with a passive (here I use paralysis for some extra stun), and a free skill (many funny options, i like to use explosive blast for xtra damage - but Wave of Force is also interesting - mass mirror images are crazy).

So... the idea of this build is that one shot of living lightning will completely RESET ALL YOUR COOLDOWNS. making you able to spam infinite diamond skin for immortality, and infinite frost nova for the complete permafreeze stun lock. This is possible because Frost nova and Diamond skin DO NOT cost any arcaine power. So as soon as you see an enemy you should start spamming everything (of course not magic weapon or energy armour ^^).

If you do this correctly, you will be able to kill almost everything. I went through hell with this build permafreezing diablo hell. In . In inferno some mops will just insta kill you no matter what.. so with my shitty gear I did get into trouble. Also if you somehow cannot start the criticalhit wave (because of rare mops with shield) then you cannot insta refresh your diamond skin - and you might die. But in generel this build will crush everything - including your poor fingers.
The limit of this build is actually often the lag, and also your ability to mass spam your poor keyboard .

I would really love to see, if it also is possible to permafreeze diablo inferno with 4 wizards all using this build :D. Share comment on this build. Hopefully blizzard is going to fix this build.. It is so stupid.


Interesting, however I'd love to see this one combined with the no vita build, it makes sense and should work even better don't you think? As the big problem with it is that diamond skin doesn't last forever... any input on this?

I counted that with items it's viable to get around 30% crit, and with some specifics and really good items up to 37% crit.

I wonder do you really crit enough even with 40%+? Maybe with 4 wizards and everyone does the diamond skin/no vita.


I tested the build myself, bought 500K gear of no vita intelligence and +crit gear.

I am now at 30% crit, 10K Health and around 22K dps. Its far enough crit, the thing is living lightning just hit a lot and therefore 30% of thos dozens hit is enough crit.

The build definetly works, no vita is required to make it work in inferno, otherwise diamon skin doesn't absorb enough hits if you have too much health.

Right now its rediculously strong, I can tank champion packs with no problem in a 3 player game. I just spam Diamond shield and novas while throwing a constant stream of living lightning (fast weapon is really recommended).
The only things that are troublesome are invulnerable and any kind of dots (molten) but even then it still kinda work, you just gotta be more careful (molten vortex where a pain though).

The problem with D3 inferno right now is that wizard really dont have a lot of option for survival when they get into act 2. Force armor + no vita + diamond skin feels just mandatory. But if you play with something different that really works well in A2 and above I'll be glad to hear it.

Could you tell me how well this build works for farming through act 2? I don't want to invest in gear that I can't even use for bosses I can't reach. So should i go this build or the no vita/health regen build?
Napoleon53
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark167 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-22 08:07:59
May 22 2012 08:07 GMT
#397
On May 22 2012 17:01 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 10:35 rezoacken wrote:
On May 22 2012 08:41 Yttrasil wrote:
On May 22 2012 04:56 Napoleon53 wrote:
The ultimate exploit spam wizard. You thought low life- force armour is an imba exploit?? this is much worse.

This build is so stupid that it might spoil the game (and your hand). Therefore I use the spoiler-tag.
+ Show Spoiler +
I havn't read anyone talking about the critical mass build, which is fairly new, and extremely effective.

It is a little complicated but the idea of this build is to mass critical hit with lighting/poison bolts. With the passive "critical mass" you remove some cooldown for your critical hits. The lightning venom combo does however give you insane chances to mass critical hit --> all cooldowns insta refresh each second.

This build depends on high crit-chance, so i would highly recommend to log into auction house and buy gloves, helm, bracers, orb with critical chance (you also want to have high dps, so ofc try to keep the intelligence as high as possible). I brought new gear for around 50k .. it shouldnt be hard to find something.

The base of the setup would be like this:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#b.S!g!c.Y ( this requires lvl 54, but you could use another lightning spell before that).

However I would HIGHLY recommend you to also add these skills:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#b.SOXY!gf!c.YYaY

This only leave you with a passive (here I use paralysis for some extra stun), and a free skill (many funny options, i like to use explosive blast for xtra damage - but Wave of Force is also interesting - mass mirror images are crazy).

So... the idea of this build is that one shot of living lightning will completely RESET ALL YOUR COOLDOWNS. making you able to spam infinite diamond skin for immortality, and infinite frost nova for the complete permafreeze stun lock. This is possible because Frost nova and Diamond skin DO NOT cost any arcaine power. So as soon as you see an enemy you should start spamming everything (of course not magic weapon or energy armour ^^).

If you do this correctly, you will be able to kill almost everything. I went through hell with this build permafreezing diablo hell. In . In inferno some mops will just insta kill you no matter what.. so with my shitty gear I did get into trouble. Also if you somehow cannot start the criticalhit wave (because of rare mops with shield) then you cannot insta refresh your diamond skin - and you might die. But in generel this build will crush everything - including your poor fingers.
The limit of this build is actually often the lag, and also your ability to mass spam your poor keyboard .

I would really love to see, if it also is possible to permafreeze diablo inferno with 4 wizards all using this build :D. Share comment on this build. Hopefully blizzard is going to fix this build.. It is so stupid.


Interesting, however I'd love to see this one combined with the no vita build, it makes sense and should work even better don't you think? As the big problem with it is that diamond skin doesn't last forever... any input on this?

I counted that with items it's viable to get around 30% crit, and with some specifics and really good items up to 37% crit.

I wonder do you really crit enough even with 40%+? Maybe with 4 wizards and everyone does the diamond skin/no vita.


I tested the build myself, bought 500K gear of no vita intelligence and +crit gear.

I am now at 30% crit, 10K Health and around 22K dps. Its far enough crit, the thing is living lightning just hit a lot and therefore 30% of thos dozens hit is enough crit.

The build definetly works, no vita is required to make it work in inferno, otherwise diamon skin doesn't absorb enough hits if you have too much health.

Right now its rediculously strong, I can tank champion packs with no problem in a 3 player game. I just spam Diamond shield and novas while throwing a constant stream of living lightning (fast weapon is really recommended).
The only things that are troublesome are invulnerable and any kind of dots (molten) but even then it still kinda work, you just gotta be more careful (molten vortex where a pain though).

The problem with D3 inferno right now is that wizard really dont have a lot of option for survival when they get into act 2. Force armor + no vita + diamond skin feels just mandatory. But if you play with something different that really works well in A2 and above I'll be glad to hear it.

Could you tell me how well this build works for farming through act 2? I don't want to invest in gear that I can't even use for bosses I can't reach. So should i go this build or the no vita/health regen build?


Both of course... the mass critical build is also based on low vita with force armour.. You should really just try out this build without the items .. or buy some really cheap items for like 5000. It would still work.
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-22 08:55:46
May 22 2012 08:51 GMT
#398
On May 22 2012 17:01 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 10:35 rezoacken wrote:
On May 22 2012 08:41 Yttrasil wrote:
On May 22 2012 04:56 Napoleon53 wrote:
The ultimate exploit spam wizard. You thought low life- force armour is an imba exploit?? this is much worse.

This build is so stupid that it might spoil the game (and your hand). Therefore I use the spoiler-tag.
+ Show Spoiler +
I havn't read anyone talking about the critical mass build, which is fairly new, and extremely effective.

It is a little complicated but the idea of this build is to mass critical hit with lighting/poison bolts. With the passive "critical mass" you remove some cooldown for your critical hits. The lightning venom combo does however give you insane chances to mass critical hit --> all cooldowns insta refresh each second.

This build depends on high crit-chance, so i would highly recommend to log into auction house and buy gloves, helm, bracers, orb with critical chance (you also want to have high dps, so ofc try to keep the intelligence as high as possible). I brought new gear for around 50k .. it shouldnt be hard to find something.

The base of the setup would be like this:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#b.S!g!c.Y ( this requires lvl 54, but you could use another lightning spell before that).

However I would HIGHLY recommend you to also add these skills:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#b.SOXY!gf!c.YYaY

This only leave you with a passive (here I use paralysis for some extra stun), and a free skill (many funny options, i like to use explosive blast for xtra damage - but Wave of Force is also interesting - mass mirror images are crazy).

So... the idea of this build is that one shot of living lightning will completely RESET ALL YOUR COOLDOWNS. making you able to spam infinite diamond skin for immortality, and infinite frost nova for the complete permafreeze stun lock. This is possible because Frost nova and Diamond skin DO NOT cost any arcaine power. So as soon as you see an enemy you should start spamming everything (of course not magic weapon or energy armour ^^).

If you do this correctly, you will be able to kill almost everything. I went through hell with this build permafreezing diablo hell. In . In inferno some mops will just insta kill you no matter what.. so with my shitty gear I did get into trouble. Also if you somehow cannot start the criticalhit wave (because of rare mops with shield) then you cannot insta refresh your diamond skin - and you might die. But in generel this build will crush everything - including your poor fingers.
The limit of this build is actually often the lag, and also your ability to mass spam your poor keyboard .

I would really love to see, if it also is possible to permafreeze diablo inferno with 4 wizards all using this build :D. Share comment on this build. Hopefully blizzard is going to fix this build.. It is so stupid.


Interesting, however I'd love to see this one combined with the no vita build, it makes sense and should work even better don't you think? As the big problem with it is that diamond skin doesn't last forever... any input on this?

I counted that with items it's viable to get around 30% crit, and with some specifics and really good items up to 37% crit.

I wonder do you really crit enough even with 40%+? Maybe with 4 wizards and everyone does the diamond skin/no vita.


I tested the build myself, bought 500K gear of no vita intelligence and +crit gear.

I am now at 30% crit, 10K Health and around 22K dps. Its far enough crit, the thing is living lightning just hit a lot and therefore 30% of thos dozens hit is enough crit.

The build definetly works, no vita is required to make it work in inferno, otherwise diamon skin doesn't absorb enough hits if you have too much health.

Right now its rediculously strong, I can tank champion packs with no problem in a 3 player game. I just spam Diamond shield and novas while throwing a constant stream of living lightning (fast weapon is really recommended).
The only things that are troublesome are invulnerable and any kind of dots (molten) but even then it still kinda work, you just gotta be more careful (molten vortex where a pain though).

The problem with D3 inferno right now is that wizard really dont have a lot of option for survival when they get into act 2. Force armor + no vita + diamond skin feels just mandatory. But if you play with something different that really works well in A2 and above I'll be glad to hear it.

Could you tell me how well this build works for farming through act 2? I don't want to invest in gear that I can't even use for bosses I can't reach. So should i go this build or the no vita/health regen build?


Its the same thing, this one just asks you to get 20 to 30% crit on your gear.
Since this is a no vita build just look for blues with 100+ int and crit chance and here you go, this should not cost too much and if you don't like it you still have something close to a basic no vita FA build.

How well it works ? Its the best I've tried so far. It also has a very strong potential in group play since you become some sort of a tank. The thing is every other build I've played just asks you to kite in stupid circles spaming blizzard or waiting your hydra to kill things, for me its fucking boring. This one makes some champions really easy and some other an interesting fight. Actually I'd just like a happy middle.
Warning though, if you go for it don't be too sad if Blizzard decides to nerf it; it definetly feels broken.

You still can make variants of it depending on your needs, and imo you still have 2 spells to chose.
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Napoleon53
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark167 Posts
May 22 2012 08:56 GMT
#399
On May 22 2012 17:51 rezoacken wrote:
You still can make variants of it depending on your needs, and imo you still have 2 spells to chose.


hm how 2 spells?

Force weapon,
Magic armour,
Living lightning
Diamond Skin
Frostnova

That only leaves out 1?
SoulWager
Profile Joined August 2010
United States464 Posts
May 22 2012 09:30 GMT
#400
Here's my inferno build:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#ZlXQOj!WYf!ZbaZYY

Items: no vit, all int and damage.
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