EPTOn December 21 2012 04:03 HeadHunterzzzz wrote:
ty very much bro! btw; what is SR?
ty very much bro! btw; what is SR?
Special Recipe rune for Smokescreen.
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
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Jochan
Poland1730 Posts
On December 21 2012 07:24 ZealotOfAuir wrote: Um...whats something that i should look to upgrading soon or when i get enough money? http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Hellfire-1416/hero/15904887 something urgent that needs upgrading? And is the build I'm using for solo farming/solo play good? or what? I would go for another set piece for Natalyas, good item with dext that is boosted even more with 130 dex from set bonus. | ||
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HeadHunterzzzz
24 Posts
On December 21 2012 07:34 WolfintheSheep wrote: Special Recipe rune for Smokescreen. ty again! | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On December 21 2012 10:54 Jochan wrote: I would go for another set piece for Natalyas, good item with dext that is boosted even more with 130 dex from set bonus. ya the boots is the best piece and you're SUPER lacking movespeed T_T... | ||
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McNulty
Norway184 Posts
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/McNulty-2847/hero/587219 Spent about 80 mill on amulet and x-bow lately, not sure where to go after this. Only have 10 mill atm, so I guess I will be saving for a while, but ok to know what bargains to look out for.  | ||
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Ario
Canada73 Posts
Profile: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Ario-3783/hero/3094368 | ||
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Dissenia
United States34 Posts
On December 23 2012 02:12 Ario wrote: I just started playing again recently and I'm slowly improving my dh (have almost no money). When would be a good time to start trying to get a hellfire ring? I'm not sure if I have enough dps to start doing key runs/ubers, or if I should continue farming until I have better gear. Profile: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Ario-3783/hero/3094368 You should be fine getting keys now, when i came back to the game, my dh had similar gear as yours and there wasn't a problem doing key runs on mp3/4. | ||
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KichSC
United Kingdom29 Posts
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Kich-2482/hero/10158455 | ||
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DerSchober
Austria66 Posts
after losing my lvl 60 monk i finally got my barb and WD to lvl 60 working on my dh now, gonna reach lvl 60 soon but i never played a dh before, so im quite noob and im not sure yet which skills im gonna use as soon as i hit 60 http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/DerSchober-2237/hero/20647526 plz keep in mind that i play HC only, i dont really need item tips cause i got some stuff in my stash, im just curious what skills u guys are using (i havent touched my DH in months, last time i played him was pre 1.0.5) i like hungering arrow alot, but im not sure if i should use elemental arrow (with the lvl 60 rune) or multishot for AoE vault with tumble is super-awesome no idea about the other skills tho | ||
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wooozy
3813 Posts
i never played DH on HC so i'm not sure what's optimal there, but when heading into inferno, consider using the perfectionist passive. it's another scaling defensive ability to go along with boar and it lowers disc cost so it's cool beans | ||
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dreamsmasher
816 Posts
On December 25 2012 02:44 wooozy wrote: for elemental arrow, ball lightning trumps nether tentacles ever since they nerfed it into the ground (nether tentacles can't hit targets multiple times whereas ball still can). if it's the lifesteal that is appealing to you... well, that's where shadow power - gloom comes into play. i think multishot is used more of a disc generator for perma vaulting than anything else i never played DH on HC so i'm not sure what's optimal there, but when heading into inferno, consider using the perfectionist passive. it's another scaling defensive ability to go along with boar and it lowers disc cost so it's cool beans nah i just farm lower mp (i farm mp3) and use vengeance for the disc+hatred regen. bat+fire at will so i'm spamming multishot everywhere and clearing things with that + trail of cinders. my multishot crits for up to 500k+ (usually in the 350-400k range). multishot outdamages ball unless ball hits twice (which it doesn't always) and MS has like no lag. my usual set has 50 max disc (up to 60 if i wear SoJ), 80 if i wear both and a 4 piece natalya. vengeance is an AMAZING passive if you're farming ay sort of low MP where you're constantly killing things. | ||
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chibineo
3 Posts
I've got a question concerning my weapons. So i don't quite understand why the bow and the crossbow are that much favored over the hand crossbow. I understand that the Crossbow can get more Critdamage and gets +50% CD from the passive skill, it will add somewhat more dps. However the Bow is worse and adds no Critdamage, might have a slight higher DPS but SHOULD be worse. Now i enjoy shooting quikly with my playstyle, which let me consider the Hand Crossbow. It hits faster than all the other weapons, and the legendary grants critdamage and aspd+ hate regeneration, and can even conpare it's dps with the crossbow ranging at about 1,3k. Why are people favoring the crossbow and the bow a lot more compared to it? And then im wondering, does the second Crossbow grant all of its effects or how are they calculated? Else another 50% AD and Critdamage would be possible using 2 Hand Crossbows, obviously beating the Quiver, but i am not sure how those stats ( and even the dps of the second weapon) are calculated, small research showed me the quiver sucks compared, but i don't know how much from the second hand crossbow counts and how its dps influence the DPS. Thanks in advance already, hope someone can help me out here, cause im really struggling with that right now! PS: How do you guys feel about ice arrow as elemental arrow skill? It has higher damage than all the other skills, splits up, granting aoe damage, not to mention the slow and it shoots faster than lets say Elec. or Tentac. I'd not consider another elemental arrow skill, but if it's not good, what else would you guys recommend? | ||
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Staboteur
Canada1873 Posts
On December 26 2012 05:34 chibineo wrote: Hello fellow Demonhunters. (Just joined TL and i'll give my first post to the D3 section, yay me!) I've got a question concerning my weapons. So i don't quite understand why the bow and the crossbow are that much favored over the hand crossbow. I understand that the Crossbow can get more Critdamage and gets +50% CD from the passive skill, it will add somewhat more dps. However the Bow is worse and adds no Critdamage, might have a slight higher DPS but SHOULD be worse. Now i enjoy shooting quikly with my playstyle, which let me consider the Hand Crossbow. It hits faster than all the other weapons, and the legendary grants critdamage and aspd+ hate regeneration, and can even conpare it's dps with the crossbow ranging at about 1,3k. Why are people favoring the crossbow and the bow a lot more compared to it? And then im wondering, does the second Crossbow grant all of its effects or how are they calculated? Else another 50% AD and Critdamage would be possible using 2 Hand Crossbows, obviously beating the Quiver, but i am not sure how those stats ( and even the dps of the second weapon) are calculated, small research showed me the quiver sucks compared, but i don't know how much from the second hand crossbow counts and how its dps influence the DPS. Thanks in advance already, hope someone can help me out here, cause im really struggling with that right now! PS: How do you guys feel about ice arrow as elemental arrow skill? It has higher damage than all the other skills, splits up, granting aoe damage, not to mention the slow and it shoots faster than lets say Elec. or Tentac. I'd not consider another elemental arrow skill, but if it's not good, what else would you guys recommend? I'm not a demon hunter, but my gut says Dead Man's Legacy is one hell of a stiff competition. If you could dual wield, or even mainhand / shield AND still have a quiver, then there might be more varied weapon options. As-is, by giving up Dead Man's Legacy, you're saccing 170 mainstat and vit, as well as 10-20% aspd, 9+% crit rate, hatred regen and possibly a utility bonus in your "offhand slot". You're allowed to benefit from a 2handed "main hand" and a respectably incredible (and cheap, if you're okay with the lower aspd rolls) "offhand" if you opt for a 2h xbow or 2h bow. Sure, there's probably opportunity for dual wield builds, or mainhand / shield builds if you cared to build them, but simplest will probably be to grab a decent manticore and dead man's legacy, and go shoot stuff until it dies. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On December 26 2012 05:34 chibineo wrote: Hello fellow Demonhunters. (Just joined TL and i'll give my first post to the D3 section, yay me!) I've got a question concerning my weapons. So i don't quite understand why the bow and the crossbow are that much favored over the hand crossbow. I understand that the Crossbow can get more Critdamage and gets +50% CD from the passive skill, it will add somewhat more dps. However the Bow is worse and adds no Critdamage, might have a slight higher DPS but SHOULD be worse. Now i enjoy shooting quikly with my playstyle, which let me consider the Hand Crossbow. It hits faster than all the other weapons, and the legendary grants critdamage and aspd+ hate regeneration, and can even conpare it's dps with the crossbow ranging at about 1,3k. Why are people favoring the crossbow and the bow a lot more compared to it? And then im wondering, does the second Crossbow grant all of its effects or how are they calculated? Else another 50% AD and Critdamage would be possible using 2 Hand Crossbows, obviously beating the Quiver, but i am not sure how those stats ( and even the dps of the second weapon) are calculated, small research showed me the quiver sucks compared, but i don't know how much from the second hand crossbow counts and how its dps influence the DPS. Thanks in advance already, hope someone can help me out here, cause im really struggling with that right now! PS: How do you guys feel about ice arrow as elemental arrow skill? It has higher damage than all the other skills, splits up, granting aoe damage, not to mention the slow and it shoots faster than lets say Elec. or Tentac. I'd not consider another elemental arrow skill, but if it's not good, what else would you guys recommend? high dex, high vit, high dps, up to 300 CD, increased attack speed--thats why. | ||
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chibineo
3 Posts
On December 26 2012 05:57 Staboteur wrote: + Show Spoiler + On December 26 2012 05:34 chibineo wrote: Hello fellow Demonhunters. (Just joined TL and i'll give my first post to the D3 section, yay me!) I've got a question concerning my weapons. So i don't quite understand why the bow and the crossbow are that much favored over the hand crossbow. I understand that the Crossbow can get more Critdamage and gets +50% CD from the passive skill, it will add somewhat more dps. However the Bow is worse and adds no Critdamage, might have a slight higher DPS but SHOULD be worse. Now i enjoy shooting quikly with my playstyle, which let me consider the Hand Crossbow. It hits faster than all the other weapons, and the legendary grants critdamage and aspd+ hate regeneration, and can even conpare it's dps with the crossbow ranging at about 1,3k. Why are people favoring the crossbow and the bow a lot more compared to it? And then im wondering, does the second Crossbow grant all of its effects or how are they calculated? Else another 50% AD and Critdamage would be possible using 2 Hand Crossbows, obviously beating the Quiver, but i am not sure how those stats ( and even the dps of the second weapon) are calculated, small research showed me the quiver sucks compared, but i don't know how much from the second hand crossbow counts and how its dps influence the DPS. Thanks in advance already, hope someone can help me out here, cause im really struggling with that right now! PS: How do you guys feel about ice arrow as elemental arrow skill? It has higher damage than all the other skills, splits up, granting aoe damage, not to mention the slow and it shoots faster than lets say Elec. or Tentac. I'd not consider another elemental arrow skill, but if it's not good, what else would you guys recommend? I'm not a demon hunter, but my gut says Dead Man's Legacy is one hell of a stiff competition. If you could dual wield, or even mainhand / shield AND still have a quiver, then there might be more varied weapon options. As-is, by giving up Dead Man's Legacy, you're saccing 170 mainstat and vit, as well as 10-20% aspd, 9+% crit rate, hatred regen and possibly a utility bonus in your "offhand slot". You're allowed to benefit from a 2handed "main hand" and a respectably incredible (and cheap, if you're okay with the lower aspd rolls) "offhand" if you opt for a 2h xbow or 2h bow. Sure, there's probably opportunity for dual wield builds, or mainhand / shield builds if you cared to build them, but simplest will probably be to grab a decent manticore and dead man's legacy, and go shoot stuff until it dies. Ty for the replies already and haha yeah i can see that being easy and useful, but im thinking outside of the box and just need someone to check if my idea actually makes sense or has some flaws i don't see. I can see that i'll lose ASPD and stats + all the goodies with losing the quiver even tho the Hand Crossbow attacks 1,76 times per second, and the Crossbow only 1,22 times, so the aspd will still be way higher overall, as that affects your aspd increases. If i use an off hand instead of the the Quiver i'll gain crit rate, crit damage additional stats, even hate regeneration if i wanted to, the critdamage + crit alone would already pretty much beat the quiver, if damage or other factors also increase, as the offhand can also have stuff like +300 holy damage for example ( still dunno how the dps is calculated) then it'd just overall be more useful. With this thought process i have right now i'd be able to reach the 300% CD from the crossbow which is the oh so godly final goal with a 100% 1H Crossbow+ a slot and another offhand bow with critdamage, making this just as good as the crossbow with the possibility for more aspd overall, and we are talking about an increase of about 0,4-5 resulting in half an attack more per second, but losing the 50% cd from the passive skill as downside, which would make fast attacks like elemental arrow or HA much more effective. For high damage not spamable skills i can see that Critdamage+ damager overall is way better, but i see the ASPD as missed oppurtunity here. ( consider also i'd gaining 10% crit chance using the passive skill which i think pretty much everyone uses) And attacking faster can quite out dps critdamage, even if the numbers aren't higher. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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chibineo
3 Posts
They share the aspd bonus and the CD bonus, the Calamity already has the additional damage build in, so you'd gain the 170-200 dex from the Maticore+ another bonus but would gain hatred regeneration and auto marked for death from the Calamity, not that godly, but sure not to forget about. True i didn't consider the dex lose and potentional vit lost thanks for pointing that out! I Could see potential up to 50% more CD, regeneration+ auto MOD and an increase of 0,6 aspd ( just tested myself, 2 1H CB compared to quiver and crossbow ->2,22->2,84 aspd for me) make up for that, but the question is if its worth it. | ||
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lenjurik
49 Posts
http://d3up.com/b/210408 Trying to avoid spending RL munnies....got about 5m gold left over. I can run mp1-3 alk runs decently...not sure what else I should be doing really... | ||
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dreamsmasher
816 Posts
bola shot - the stun rune spike traps echoing blast (huge dmg) guaridan turret (15% minus dmg) vault (tumble) shadow power gloom preparation passives nightstalker perfectionist numbing traps. i turn my dps EHP set into a full on tanking set. i run wiht base 50 disc all the time, rock like 4500 armor, 34k hp, 340-390 resists with perfect up and can tank almost anything in mp7 with a turret and can kill things really quickly with echoing blast etc.. i have pretty good disc regen with this setup and makes killing those 'extra health fast' mobs easily unlike cluster arrow. i can't tank absolutely everything yet using my setup, so vault is there to lower the amount of damage taken, but i'd say you can do a fair amount of tanking with this build,. | ||
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JerKy
Korea (South)3013 Posts
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