Demon Hunter - Builds/Discussion - Page 177

On October 29 2012 09:44 shabby wrote:
Why is everyone so into manticores? Is it because of the crit damage, so you get a higher burst? In the damage calculator my random 1373 dps 600k xbow does more damage than 10-15m manticores with gem. I guess sustained damage isn't as important?

Edit: Another random question while I'm at it! I see Ball Lightning getting suggested and I'm currently using it to great effect. Why am I using this and not nether tentacles? Does all mobs have significant higher resist against regular damage than against lightning? The % damage and aoe are otherwise the same.

On November 02 2012 03:43 Grendel wrote:


I clearly said I was using Smokescreen. I rather have smokescreen because it gives me a movespeed buff as well, which is something I've grown really fond of. Besides, I have no slots I can remove atm to give room to Gloom.. :-/

On November 02 2012 06:56 dreamsmasher wrote:


sustained is always better. its just because most people are noobs.
spreadsheet should govern all of your purchases.

its because people liek to follow the trend and crit damage is a 'sexy' stat.

On October 29 2012 09:44 shabby wrote:
Edit: Another random question while I'm at it! I see Ball Lightning getting suggested and I'm currently using it to great effect. Why am I using this and not nether tentacles? Does all mobs have significant higher resist against regular damage than against lightning? The % damage and aoe are otherwise the same.

On November 02 2012 07:10 WolfintheSheep wrote:Maybe I'm extremely blind, but you're not using Tactical Advantage...so Smokescreen gives no movement speed at all. And if you are using TA, then Vault also gives movement speed.

On November 02 2012 06:56 dreamsmasher wrote:


sustained is always better. its just because most people are noobs.
spreadsheet should govern all of your purchases.

its because people liek to follow the trend and crit damage is a 'sexy' stat.

On November 02 2012 20:08 PaNiCterrran wrote:

I actually feel that Manticores are price worthy if you buy the recently listed ones. There are decent Manticores in abundance getting listed on the AH every hour and thus you can get a really cheap one if you're looking at the right time. As for high dps crossbows, they are only listed a few times per hour ---> difficult to find a bargain. This is what I've experienced at least.

On another topic, I'm feeling a bit stuck on my gear atm. Got about 15 million at my disposal, and is wondering what i should go for next.
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/PaNiC-1970/hero/691501

On November 02 2012 05:23 Leijona wrote:


Hi teamliquid again. I'm in a situation on my demon hunter now that I'm not sure what gear to upgrade next. I've been just farming steady and upgrading, no huge drops yet. So if you can give me some advice on where I should continue upgrading my gear next anf point out some bad gear that I might have I wouldbappreciate it. Thanks


http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Leijona-2885/hero/3339923

On November 02 2012 19:14 wkk6813 wrote:
Fellow TL-ers,

For those who would like to upgrade your DH on a budget of 150mn, i have a few tips for you

This is me: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Sun-1894/hero/18938946 (ammy is not updated yet..)

Overall,
1) Nat's Set: If you don't already have, it would be your first buy. The market is currently flooding with Nat Set as i guess a lot of DHs are switching to Barbs. Start your search for Cloak by DEX > 80, VIT > 40, AR > 40, and a specific skill dmg > 10%, mine costs only 11mn. For the Boot, go for DEX>90, VIT>90, AR>70 and mine costs 25mn. For the ring, go for ATK SPD=9%, DEX>80, VIT>80, and %Life as %Life is still under-priced, mine costs 20mn.

2) Manticore: Go for 2-socket no matter what, it is the only point for buying a manticore. Pricing is very competitive so dont expect a huge saving here. Start your search by DEX>160, CD>85 and try to fish for ones with as high dps as possible from your budget. Mine costs 45mn.

3) Vile Ward: Frankly, i expect price for Vile Ward to drop dramatically as the stats are very standardized. Wait for a while until the weekends to see a flood of postings and fish for ones with DEX>170, VIT>70, AR>70, LIFE REGEN>300, mine costs 16mn.

5) Andariel's Visage: I think this is not the best helm for DHs, but i get it because it looks cool. Prices are going to drop quick on this one too. Focus on ATK SPD = 9%, FIRE DMG RECEIVED < 15%, a few millions should get you one-

4) Glove: Interestingly, best value to find here is go for defensive stats on gloves, with high DEX>150 and AR>50 and CC>8.5. Mine only costs 800k, but if you can also look for one with CD for a few millions.

5) Amulet: Mine is CC 8.5%, CD 85%, DEX 90, LIFE% 4 and i paid for this 19mn. This is the part you can potential save a lot of money. Do not start your search for CC 9% and CD 90% like other noobs do, search for CC 8.5%, CD 85% and you will be surprised how big the price difference is. Then focus your search for defensive stat like %Life or AR or VIT, if you lucky you may find something really good only for 20mn.

6) Belts and Pants: In theory Inna's set is the best here but i find that the stats on Inna's set is too offensive. If you only have 150mn budget, i would not spend 50mn on Inna's set as priority but rather, go for defensive stat here: DEX>150, VIT>70, AR>60 / % Life. Normally things are very cheap here.

So in total my upgrade costs 156mn with the 2 gems on the manticore (24mn). I can easily farm mp6 solo without dying once and potentially go for high mps in group play.

DPS: 166k w/o ss
Health: 52k
AR: 300
Phy.Resist: 450

Hopefully this will give you a sense of how to spend your money for the best value and build towards a well-balanced DHs. If you like more tips or do quests tgt, feel free to add me ingame: Sun#1894.

Cheers and good luck for AH hunting!

On November 02 2012 21:06 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:


2 sock manticores are still overrated as a whole. Ofc they can be BiS weapons, but a sub 1100 dps manticore gets Out dpsed quite easily by high dps rares with crit and a socket.

On November 02 2012 21:06 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:


2 sock manticores are still overrated as a whole. Ofc they can be BiS weapons, but a sub 1100 dps manticore gets Out dpsed quite easily by high dps rares with crit and a socket.

On November 03 2012 03:36 ArC_man wrote:
Honestly I wouldn't go for low end rolls of legendaries/sets because rares typically out-do them at a much cheaper price. For example, if you're gonna buy a vile ward with <200 dex and some vit, it's much cheaper to get a rare with similar stats (unless you really value that life regen and extra armor). The only reason you'd get a vile ward is because it can roll over 200 dex.

On November 03 2012 03:42 Pokebunny wrote:

This completely, don't like the advice given up there.