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On November 05 2012 07:09 serum321 wrote:
So I've found a way to use hungering arrow and evasive fire together, sortof.

I'm sure I'm not the first to think of this, but I've been using an unlimited hatred build to some success.
Using devouring arrow main and loaded for bear right click.
Multishot: Suppression fire - This fills the role of evasive fire, near instant hit, even better aoe, restores disc
Preparation: Punishment - No cooldown, restores all hatred for 25 disc; Use this in conjuction w/ multishot for tons of disc/hatred.
Shadow Power: Night Bane - More hatred, more hatred = more disc
Bat - More hatred
For passives vengeance(more hatred) with your standard archery and steady aim; you could sacrifice archery for nightstalker for near unlimited hatred/disc.

Hatred regen on gear will also help.

So I get the best of both worlds, single target when I need single target, aoe when I need aoe, and with 50 disc I can unload 12 consecutive cluster arrows for burst dps when need be.

Edit - Oh also I swap bat for Marked for Death: Mortal Enemy in group play.

On November 08 2012 23:03 Freezard wrote:
Am I the only one never having used shadow power? The only defensive skill I used to have is caltrops 80% slow but since the trails of cinder buff I've replaced it with vault and preparation. On MP0 reflect damage isn't a big deal, life on kill and health globes/potions works fine, although I guess gloom is mandatory for solo DH on higher MPs unfortunately. I also use impale stun as both defensive/offensive and it just got even more awesome in 1.05. DH with a barb is a great combination though as you don't need any defensive skills at all, instead you can go all offensive with spike traps and really tear apart shit. But yeah, I hope they'll fix reflect damage soon so you don't need gloom on MP5.

On November 09 2012 00:08 mikodrak wrote:


Just tried this yesterday and it definitely has something to it; thanks for sharing I'll have to refine it for my needs, but it's got some potential; It feels like hell breaks loose when you unload all the shit.

My build is a little different, which I'd like to discuss and later experiment with it.. perhaps you'll find some inspiration here, too. My char is mid range I guess (170K dps without any dmg passives, 300AR, 35K life), but I feel myself doing significantly more damage with this build than most guys I play with. Anyway:

PASSIVES - I use Vengeance (obvious choice for lower MPs, gives both hatred and disc - so more and more hatred haha), nightstalker (really helps) and Grenadier (I use LfB all the time). I find the choices here harder and harder to make; tactical is awesome for fast farming, but it doesn't really have a place in this build :/

SKILLS:
- hungering arrow (I was using spray of teeth as a constant AoE, but now I'm considering switching to another skill that gives me 6 hatred per shot; I use LfB most of the time anyway, and I realized that with so much hatred, it only serves as a hatred generator when I run out of disc.. )
- LfB (for now basically my primary dmg skill)
- SP - gloom (I never thought of the +hatred rune; I'll be sure to try that too, but I don't know if I'm able to survive without the DMG reduction PLUS right now i already feel like there are very few places when I run out of hatred)
- VAULT - tumble (If It's worth it on low MPs; not only for movement speed, but I use it to great advantage when I run out of hatred and need to collect health globes fast to continue LfBring I switch to spike traps - scatter during group plays
- PREP (that hatred refillin rune)
- BAT (obvious choice)

I also have over 8 hatred regen (with bat), the +2 on gear is very noticeable, and I'm thinking about getting the -cluster arrow hatred cost on quiver (i think the max is 5) and on the chest armor. With so many cluster arrows, I can once again drop the +HA dmg on my current quiver and concentrate on pumping out even more.

My only "downside" is discipline; with vengeance and gloom, its definitely manageable, not not as smooth as I would like. I have 46 max and I am not sure if more +max would help (when I have too much disc I just vault fast to the next mobs and/or transfer it to hatred).

My questions:
- which of the skills make the best use of night stalker?
- I don't use any Nats but I'm considering buying the old set. I'm worried about the DPS loss, because the rares I have are far superior to the old nat's pieces, and I don't know how far will the bonus take me. I wonder whether the +disc regen is still worth it (it definitely sounds awesome in combo with this build) and whether would you guys advice me to get it; currently I have like 300M and I'm thinking about upgrading something. Would it be enough to get a decent set?

Anyway, that's about it; I recommend everyone to try this build. It might not be the most efficient, but I've never had so much fun with my DH.

On November 12 2012 13:10 theang123 wrote:
hi im coming back after months of not playing and only have 800k to spend on my dh.
Is there any good farming route now to earn $$ with the recently implemented mp10 thingy?

I can farm act1+2 mp0 comfortably with my gear

On November 12 2012 14:12 Chairman Ray wrote:


Alkaiser on MP1

On November 12 2012 14:24 Warmonger wrote:


MP0 Alkaiser would be more beneficial for farming until he has much better gear than what he currently does.

On November 12 2012 14:28 Chairman Ray wrote:


I believe in MP1, all equipment stats are scaled to lvl 63, which will benefit him for finding upgrades and potentially sellable gear. You're probably right about the slower farming though.

On November 10 2012 11:53 serum321 wrote:
I'm also figuring out now while you are really overgeared for something you don't even need a hatred generator at all so if you wanted to keep vault you could. Or you could get something like bait the trap, use that with +multishot crit and you could have like 80% crit on multishot. Would allow you to vault as if you had a legacy nat's set.

On November 12 2012 14:35 Warmonger wrote:


All monsters are lvl 63 in Act 3, regardless of MP (or lack there of), so the only difference would be the small amount of magic find and the 1% extra item drop chance from MP0 to MP1 (basically not worth uping the difficulty unless you can kill at the same speed in either situation).

On November 14 2012 04:19 FiWiFaKi wrote:
I have a couple general questions, if someone could help please.

I haven't been able to find solid data for life steal vs life on hit anywhere really, it's all theory. I know that in inferno Life steal is only 20% efficient. I don't want to go out and buy a 60mil weapon to compare, is eventually when you reach 200kdps+ lifesteal better?

And my other question, is which set items are the best if I'm using pieces that cost between 100-200mil. It seems like Inna's Legs, and Natalya boots, and then it changes up a bit. I think I'll be farming mp1 and mp2 a3 for quick farms, so survivability doesn't seem super crucial, currently 45k hp (dead man's quiver is nice vitality boost ^^) and 400AR and reflect damage is the only thing that I really have trouble with. So I see many people use Inna's Belt, and Nat's Cloak, and surprisingly many people don't actually go for the 130 dex bonus from nat's 3-piece. Is it worth buying the ring or helm? Or better go for that one that causes fire damage?

Just trying to have a solid plan on what pieces I need so I don't have to spend hundreds of mils reconfiguring my set after its built due to inefficiency. Thank you

On November 14 2012 04:19 FiWiFaKi wrote:
I have a couple general questions, if someone could help please.

I haven't been able to find solid data for life steal vs life on hit anywhere really, it's all theory. I know that in inferno Life steal is only 20% efficient. I don't want to go out and buy a 60mil weapon to compare, is eventually when you reach 200kdps+ lifesteal better?

And my other question, is which set items are the best if I'm using pieces that cost between 100-200mil. It seems like Inna's Legs, and Natalya boots, and then it changes up a bit. I think I'll be farming mp1 and mp2 a3 for quick farms, so survivability doesn't seem super crucial, currently 45k hp (dead man's quiver is nice vitality boost ^^) and 400AR and reflect damage is the only thing that I really have trouble with. So I see many people use Inna's Belt, and Nat's Cloak, and surprisingly many people don't actually go for the 130 dex bonus from nat's 3-piece. Is it worth buying the ring or helm? Or better go for that one that causes fire damage?

Just trying to have a solid plan on what pieces I need so I don't have to spend hundreds of mils reconfiguring my set after its built due to inefficiency. Thank you

On November 14 2012 05:36 FiWiFaKi wrote:


I was hoping some solid jewellery would be my final upgrade, guess not haha. And alright, that's what I have right now, but the belt get Inna's or just a regular rare?

Even in MP1+MP2 against damage reflect with extra health, sometimes I am unable to kill them because my health goes too low and I need to heal up. I have some pretty high healing stats, 1k LoH, 1.2k regen/sec, 2.5k life after kill, and I would think that getting a lower end trifecta ammy(current ammy 8crit, 58crit damage, 9ias%, 850 LoH, no dex or vit -.-) with LoH/Lifesteal and mid dex might be good. But that costing around 300mil for what I'm looking for I was thinking of getting Life Steal, which is a significantly cheaper.


Currently I'm just trying to work my dex up without sacrificing too much, as I have 1700dex, and 59% crit (with scoundral follower), and 550% crit damage (two-socket manti ^^).



Do people really like the discipline that much? I'd much rather have an extra 20 dex than 20 discipline. High ias and evasive fire will bring your hatred up in like 3 seconds, and multishot can fill your discipline very quick, not to mention a couple items that increase its regen.