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JustJonny
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada294 Posts
October 17 2012 04:23 GMT
#3341
big thanks pokebunny for taking over the op. it's fantastic now!
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
October 17 2012 07:05 GMT
#3342
Anyone tried a -10 hatred cost chakram build? seems interesting to run that with no hatred generator and get like the turret instead.
McNulty
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway184 Posts
October 17 2012 07:08 GMT
#3343
On October 17 2012 04:28 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 01:52 McNulty wrote:
On May 11 2012 08:49 Pokebunny wrote:
Hello Teamliquid Demon Hunter crew...

Today is October 15th, 2012 and I have now gotten control of this thread. It will now contain actually useful information for Demon Hunters, especially those just starting out, to learn how to gear and skill their characters for optimal performance. 1.0.5 comes out tomorrow, but I'll write this as if it was already out.

Skills
This thread will assume you are level 60 and just progressing into inferno, or just looking to improve your inferno farming speed. As a general guideline for a low gear level DH, this is the skill build you'll likely want:

Low-ish gear level - farming below Act 3 MP0 or Act 1/2 MP1+, or struggling in A3 MP0-2
Left click: Hungering Arrow - Devouring Arrow. Hungering is far and away the best Hatred generator - its single target damage potential far outstrips the utility the other ones can occasionally offer. Devouring Arrow simply increases that potential as much as possible.


Let me guess, you've never tried Evasive Fire?

I have, the single target damage potential of hungering is definitely still better.


I think this is an interesting discussion so I'll take it a bit further.

While I agree with you (can't disagree there ofcourse) that for single target Devouring is better, I still think Evasive has some qualities which outweigh this.

First of all, Evasive hits 3 targets. This happens quite often in important situations (when fighting elites) since there is usually 4 or more of them. Then you have have the fact that Evasive is INSTANT, as in no projectile. Im not 100% sure of the following but: With Evasive I can instantly see after what shot the monster dies. Sometimes its one, other times more. With Devouring, I feel like i spend more time shooting (overkilling), since the missile is so slow and I don't know if it will kill the mobs in one hit or I need to shoot more.

Finally, >>>while this might be different now that Ubers come in to play<<<, when do you really rely that much on single target damage? Most of the encounters where damage matters are elites, and they usually die all together.

Convince me! =)
HeadHunterzzzz
Profile Joined June 2012
24 Posts
October 17 2012 12:38 GMT
#3344
hi all!first of all this is my profile..
http://eu.battle.net/d3/it/profile/Headhunterz-2917/hero/7673188 (dunno why but it's bugged i have 42.5%cc and 276cd)

what should i look for? ias? more cc? more cd?

meanwhile ty!
serum321
Profile Joined January 2012
United States606 Posts
October 17 2012 12:38 GMT
#3345
Part of the reason why I use evasive fire is because you're almost never shooting just one target. Sure I switched to devouring for things like taking diablo down the first time and I'll switch to devouring at the start of a game when doing ubers.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
October 17 2012 14:35 GMT
#3346
On October 17 2012 16:08 McNulty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 04:28 Pokebunny wrote:
On October 17 2012 01:52 McNulty wrote:
On May 11 2012 08:49 Pokebunny wrote:
Hello Teamliquid Demon Hunter crew...

Today is October 15th, 2012 and I have now gotten control of this thread. It will now contain actually useful information for Demon Hunters, especially those just starting out, to learn how to gear and skill their characters for optimal performance. 1.0.5 comes out tomorrow, but I'll write this as if it was already out.

Skills
This thread will assume you are level 60 and just progressing into inferno, or just looking to improve your inferno farming speed. As a general guideline for a low gear level DH, this is the skill build you'll likely want:

Low-ish gear level - farming below Act 3 MP0 or Act 1/2 MP1+, or struggling in A3 MP0-2
Left click: Hungering Arrow - Devouring Arrow. Hungering is far and away the best Hatred generator - its single target damage potential far outstrips the utility the other ones can occasionally offer. Devouring Arrow simply increases that potential as much as possible.


Let me guess, you've never tried Evasive Fire?

I have, the single target damage potential of hungering is definitely still better.


I think this is an interesting discussion so I'll take it a bit further.

While I agree with you (can't disagree there ofcourse) that for single target Devouring is better, I still think Evasive has some qualities which outweigh this.

First of all, Evasive hits 3 targets. This happens quite often in important situations (when fighting elites) since there is usually 4 or more of them. Then you have have the fact that Evasive is INSTANT, as in no projectile. Im not 100% sure of the following but: With Evasive I can instantly see after what shot the monster dies. Sometimes its one, other times more. With Devouring, I feel like i spend more time shooting (overkilling), since the missile is so slow and I don't know if it will kill the mobs in one hit or I need to shoot more.

Finally, >>>while this might be different now that Ubers come in to play<<<, when do you really rely that much on single target damage? Most of the encounters where damage matters are elites, and they usually die all together.

Convince me! =)

I think Pokebunny is not saying that HA is better in all cases - what he is saying that for low gear DHs, HA > evasive. This is because for low gear DHs, the biggest issue is almost always DPS and hence HA/Cluster Arrow aims to maximise that. If your DH is geared enough, then choose whichever one that suits your playstyle best.
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
October 17 2012 14:59 GMT
#3347
On October 17 2012 08:34 WolfintheSheep wrote:
I never figured out...does Spray of Teeth hit the target enemy as well?

I can confirm that it does indeed hit the target enemy.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 23:55:02
October 17 2012 23:48 GMT
#3348
On October 10 2012 10:50 besiger wrote:
Hi everyone, I have a few questions

First of all, this is me : http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/vorros-2768/Lamenter/19069823

Now I was wondering what would be the best way to go about setting up for the new monster power system. I have around 190 all res now, and I think I will need to get nat boots first for more all res, or maybe after the patch i could get some ring and amulet with all res, 300 all res should be ok ? I have 130k dps now using steady aim and 36k health, is there anything I could upgrade within the 20 mil range ?

Also, for the people that have been playing on the PTR, could you estimate which monster power I could do without too much problems. I really don't have any trouble doing act 3 as is. Thanks


Hi again, I took the advice I got here and got nat boots and a new manticore for 12k dps more, I am now sitting at 143k. At this point I'm wondering is there anything else I can do to boost myself up to 150k without dropping 50 million on a new piece of gear. Ive been toying around in the d3up damage calculator for the past hour and every option I try is just so crazy expensive. I could maybe try to drop out allres on my helm for a socketed andariels, don't know how that would turn out.

Also, at what dps does it start becoming overkill ? Thanks for all the help again.
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
October 18 2012 14:38 GMT
#3349
With mp there will Not be an Overkill regarding dps ever.

Has anyone soloed an uber boss yet? Wondering what Kind of build and what mp I can manage at 150k dps. Caltrops might be useful for kiting ?
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 18 2012 15:00 GMT
#3350
soloing a boss is pretty inefficient. you need to get 5 stacks every time and it's not guaranteed to drop the one you need.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
smoos
Profile Joined November 2011
35 Posts
October 18 2012 15:59 GMT
#3351
I just soloed zholtan + siegebreaker with 90k dps, 300AR. It was fairly easy so I think you could manage at least mp4.
zomgE
Profile Joined January 2012
498 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 16:23:01
October 18 2012 16:21 GMT
#3352
made a ring and got life after each kill, res, low vita and dmg ._.
well leveling ring anyways. can't be bothered with that for a while now probably.
rakanoth mp10 blinkstrike hits for 60k+ with 430allres/526phys(not sure what type it is), 4.5k armor and gloom on. nice.
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
October 18 2012 16:51 GMT
#3353
I know soloing is inefficient but with my Playing hours I have Little choice
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
Toothless`xelrae
Profile Joined November 2010
94 Posts
October 18 2012 17:25 GMT
#3354
On October 18 2012 23:38 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
With mp there will Not be an Overkill regarding dps ever.

Has anyone soloed an uber boss yet? Wondering what Kind of build and what mp I can manage at 150k dps. Caltrops might be useful for kiting ?


Soloed LeoricxMaghda on MP7. Its an easy fight as long as you pay attention to Maghda's pretty little butterflies.

I ran w/ boar
Hungering arrow-devouring arrow
Sentry-Vigilant watcher [dont underestimate sentry it does good damage]

archery/custom engineering/perfectionist

fell inlove w/ the sentry after i realized it can make up for the dps i lose while running around.
i have 120k dps w/ this build and 150kish w/ steady aim GL
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
October 18 2012 22:06 GMT
#3355
Hi all!

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Praetorial-1971/hero/931640

I'm a fresh level 60, with gear that I either bought at a low price on the auction house or borrowed from friends!

I've managed to clear act 3(with many deaths), what is the best way to approach upgrading my(terrible) gear?

Thanks very much!
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
October 18 2012 22:21 GMT
#3356
If 3 DHs all used the stun rune for bola shot, could you stunlock an uber?
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 22:22:00
October 18 2012 22:21 GMT
#3357
On October 19 2012 07:06 Praetorial wrote:
Hi all!

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Praetorial-1971/hero/931640

I'm a fresh level 60, with gear that I either bought at a low price on the auction house or borrowed from friends!

I've managed to clear act 3(with many deaths), what is the best way to approach upgrading my(terrible) gear?

Thanks very much!

there's a really simple gear guide in the OP that should be exactly what you need ^^

if you let me know your budget and add me on bnet @ pokebunny#1967, would be glad to help you shop!
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
serum321
Profile Joined January 2012
United States606 Posts
October 18 2012 22:24 GMT
#3358
On October 19 2012 07:06 Praetorial wrote:
Hi all!

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Praetorial-1971/hero/931640

I'm a fresh level 60, with gear that I either bought at a low price on the auction house or borrowed from friends!

I've managed to clear act 3(with many deaths), what is the best way to approach upgrading my(terrible) gear?

Thanks very much!


You could get a big upgrade at chest for cheap. You could upgrade cheaply at bracers or what I reccomend is getting some cheap lacuni prowlers, you won't be able to afford ones with crit chance, but thats ok, you really want the movement speed. You can make up that loss crit and then some on your quiver, crit chance is a must there and look for at least 15% ias. To stay within a cheap budget I'd look for boots similar to yours except w/ vit, shoulders also look for around 150 dex +vit. Pants look for more dex and all resist, drop the little bit of vit if you have to. Gloves are good, just look for more of those stats. Amulet get more crit chance and damage, even if it means dropping dex. Belt look for more dex + vit. Add in physical resist where you can if its cheap.
gutshot
Profile Joined February 2011
United States429 Posts
October 18 2012 22:30 GMT
#3359
so it seems like DH has become the worst class after all, i dont think any DH can solo mp10.
need tentacles/ToC back ;(
jqq
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia31 Posts
October 18 2012 23:05 GMT
#3360
Hey guys, so i have about 70mil to spend on upgrade for my DH, can't seem to figure out what I should be upgrading or the most effective way to be using the gold for upgrades, some help would be great lols.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Jqq-6953/hero/663570


Thanks ^_^
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