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ArC_man
United States2798 Posts
On October 19 2012 07:30 gutshot wrote: so it seems like DH has become the worst class after all, i dont think any DH can solo mp10. need tentacles/ToC back ;( What makes you think that? There were some DHs streaming who soloed ubers on mp10. | ||
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gutshot
United States429 Posts
On October 19 2012 08:12 ArC_man wrote: What makes you think that? There were some DHs streaming who soloed ubers on mp10. really? I would like to know who they were and generally speaking DHs need to be way more geared than the other classes to be comparable | ||
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ArC_man
United States2798 Posts
On October 19 2012 08:29 gutshot wrote: really? I would like to know who they were and generally speaking DHs need to be way more geared than the other classes to be comparable I know for sure that theprohacker did it, probably some others have done it as well but I don't watch their streams. In the end all the top geared people of each class who are able to do these things all have essentially BiS items so I wouldn't say the DHs are more geared than other classes. | ||
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gutshot
United States429 Posts
On October 19 2012 08:53 ArC_man wrote: I know for sure that theprohacker did it, probably some others have done it as well but I don't watch their streams. In the end all the top geared people of each class who are able to do these things all have essentially BiS items so I wouldn't say the DHs are more geared than other classes. well prohacker has really ridiculous gears, while looking at gears of other people with different class who were doing mp10, I wasn't too impressed | ||
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
 So embarrasing. So I'm currently farming around mp2, which still lets me one/two shot stuff and makes me feel good, could probably try the higher levels, but I think my gear is kinda low for it. | ||
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triforks
United States370 Posts
what's more important? something with around 1.1k-1.2k dps w/ crit dmg + socket or something around 950-1k w/ crit dmg + 2 sockets | ||
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FakeDouble
Australia676 Posts
On October 19 2012 09:26 triforks wrote: i think im gonna buy a cheap manticore for under like 5m. what's more important? something with around 1.1k-1.2k dps w/ crit dmg + socket or something around 950-1k w/ crit dmg + 2 sockets I think the 1.2k dps is better? Well, it depends on how much of your damage is from crit damage. You're going to have to use a damage calculator to find out. To make the maths simple, let's say you have 50% crit chance and 400% crit damage with a single socket 1k dps manticore. You can either get an extra 100% crit damage with an extra socket or get a 20% increase in dps. So the question is what does the extra crit damage do for you? Let's say you fire 1 shot. If you don't crit (50% chance), you do 100% damage. If you crit, you do 500% damage (base 100 + 400 extra). so on average you do 300% damage per shot. If you increase your crit damage by 100%, you do 100% if you fail to crit and now do 600% if you do crit, for an average of 350% damage per shot, that's a 1/7 increase or about 14%. Having a 1.2k dps manticore increases both your crit and non-crit damage since it affects your base. Plus you save money on a 100% crit damage gem if you don't already have one, which you can put towards getting a better manticore. | ||
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Azzur
Australia6259 Posts
On October 19 2012 09:26 triforks wrote: i think im gonna buy a cheap manticore for under like 5m. what's more important? something with around 1.1k-1.2k dps w/ crit dmg + socket or something around 950-1k w/ crit dmg + 2 sockets Use a damage calculator to make sure - my gut feeling is the higher DPS will be better | ||
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RamonMcGrady
33 Posts
Second of all. I've been playing quite a lot but haven't found a way to get better gear than the one I'm wearing. I'm not sure where to go next, or what to upgrade, as i'm not quite certain of what should my priorities be. Anyone with a suggestion? I would appreciate it a lot. http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/RamonMcGrady-2521/hero/7647826 Thanks a lot for your time and patience. | ||
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Loire
Singapore1358 Posts
In 1.0.4 if i used shadow power before trail of cinders, the lifesteal from SP would apply to the damage done by my ToC. In the current patch, I've switched from ToC to Sentry, and i realise that using SP before/after i put my sentry down does not give me the lifesteal when my sentry does damage, does anyone know if this is intended or could possibly be a bug? My sentry is killing me against reflect damage elites and SP doesn't seem to overcome this, kinda annoying  | ||
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serum321
United States606 Posts
On October 19 2012 17:57 RamonMcGrady wrote: First of all, i'm glad that someone with such a great enthusiasm as Pokebunny is running this thread now. Second of all. I've been playing quite a lot but haven't found a way to get better gear than the one I'm wearing. I'm not sure where to go next, or what to upgrade, as i'm not quite certain of what should my priorities be. Anyone with a suggestion? I would appreciate it a lot. http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/RamonMcGrady-2521/hero/7647826 Thanks a lot for your time and patience. Get crit on your rings and get a better quiver. | ||
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serum321
United States606 Posts
On October 19 2012 21:34 Loire wrote: I have a question regarding Shadow power. I am not familiar with the mechanics at all so i seek the help from the veterans here. In 1.0.4 if i used shadow power before trail of cinders, the lifesteal from SP would apply to the damage done by my ToC. In the current patch, I've switched from ToC to Sentry, and i realise that using SP before/after i put my sentry down does not give me the lifesteal when my sentry does damage, does anyone know if this is intended or could possibly be a bug? My sentry is killing me against reflect damage elites and SP doesn't seem to overcome this, kinda annoying Since sentries no longer crit I would think that they shouldn't lifesteal, but taking rd from them is the bug, but you'd have to ask a blue to be sure. | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On October 19 2012 21:34 Loire wrote: I have a question regarding Shadow power. I am not familiar with the mechanics at all so i seek the help from the veterans here. In 1.0.4 if i used shadow power before trail of cinders, the lifesteal from SP would apply to the damage done by my ToC. In the current patch, I've switched from ToC to Sentry, and i realise that using SP before/after i put my sentry down does not give me the lifesteal when my sentry does damage, does anyone know if this is intended or could possibly be a bug? My sentry is killing me against reflect damage elites and SP doesn't seem to overcome this, kinda annoying It still works the same way, the difference is that now if you have low AR/armor you will take more damage than you heal. (20% -> 15% lifesteal, 65% -> 35% damage reduced) | ||
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RamonMcGrady
33 Posts
On October 19 2012 21:36 serum321 wrote: Get crit on your rings and get a better quiver. Assuming I already got that (quiver and rings), what's the next upgrade needed in your opinion? | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
He is barely making a difference at all in his 4 man even with the best gear while his barbarian friend is basically doing all of the work. Looks like this game is still Barbarian and the 4 follower classes. Actually monks look ok. | ||
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serum321
United States606 Posts
On October 19 2012 22:55 RamonMcGrady wrote: Assuming I already got that (quiver and rings), what's the next upgrade needed in your opinion? Kinda up to personal preference at that point as in if you want to continue upgrading all stats upgrades will be running into the several million. The least expensive things I would do after that is get an amulet with higher crit and crit damage even it it means lower dex, you can search for one w/ an open socket to get a relatively cheap one. And I'd also get a helmet with an open socket, drop the vit and all resist and get one with slightly more dex/crit and an os, ruby is a must for lvling and you can put an amythest in it when doing ubers. After that maybe inna's temperence (pants) and 2-pc natalyas and a low end vile ward. In addition to always keeping an eye out for a better bow, I prefer xbows myself. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On October 19 2012 23:01 Medrea wrote: Watching that demon hunter is so depressing. He is barely making a difference at all in his 4 man even with the best gear while his barbarian friend is basically doing all of the work. Looks like this game is still Barbarian and the 4 follower classes. Actually monks look ok. the melee ranged distinction is nonexistent at higher mp so all the ranged guys are just gimped melee. DH's hatred is the slowest recharging damage resource among the 3 ranged classes, so in prolonged combat with no space in-between to regen hatred, dh do pitiful damage. | ||
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RamonMcGrady
33 Posts
On October 20 2012 00:01 serum321 wrote: Kinda up to personal preference at that point as in if you want to continue upgrading all stats upgrades will be running into the several million. The least expensive things I would do after that is get an amulet with higher crit and crit damage even it it means lower dex, you can search for one w/ an open socket to get a relatively cheap one. And I'd also get a helmet with an open socket, drop the vit and all resist and get one with slightly more dex/crit and an os, ruby is a must for lvling and you can put an amythest in it when doing ubers. After that maybe inna's temperence (pants) and 2-pc natalyas and a low end vile ward. In addition to always keeping an eye out for a better bow, I prefer xbows myself. Thanks a lot, that was really helpful. | ||
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gutshot
United States429 Posts
On October 20 2012 01:19 oneofthem wrote: the melee ranged distinction is nonexistent at higher mp so all the ranged guys are just gimped melee. DH's hatred is the slowest recharging damage resource among the 3 ranged classes, so in prolonged combat with no space in-between to regen hatred, dh do pitiful damage. can't agree more, the hatred regen prop needs to be buffed 5x or something close like that | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
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