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On September 23 2012 20:56 kafkaesque wrote:
Hey guys, I have a paragon-level-1 demonhunter and wanted to start playing her.
I wonder how much gold you have to invest nowadays to farm Act 3 nowadays and if there are specific specs that make the progress less glacial.
Are there any legendaries that are cost efficient?
Are 20.000.000 going to be sufficient to farm at a semi-decent pace?
more than enough. Geared my DH decently w/ a 15m budget..
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On September 23 2012 20:56 kafkaesque wrote:
Hey guys, I have a paragon-level-1 demonhunter and wanted to start playing her.
I wonder how much gold you have to invest nowadays to farm Act 3 nowadays and if there are specific specs that make the progress less glacial.
Are there any legendaries that are cost efficient?
Are 20.000.000 going to be sufficient to farm at a semi-decent pace?
more than enough. Geared my DH decently w/ a 15m budget..
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Can you link me your DH to give me some sort of guideline?
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
problem with dex is that it does not lower the gear check for getting one/two shot at all, and the mitigation only converges to its expected value over a long period of facetanking, which obviously a kiting char would not do.
keep in mind gloom is nerfed by 40%, and this is even taking into account -25% incoming monster damage. it is actually nerfed by 85% as far as damage mitigation goes. perfectionist does not make up for 85% ehp at all.
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On September 23 2012 20:56 kafkaesque wrote:
Hey guys, I have a paragon-level-1 demonhunter and wanted to start playing her.
I wonder how much gold you have to invest nowadays to farm Act 3 nowadays and if there are specific specs that make the progress less glacial.
Are there any legendaries that are cost efficient?
Are 20.000.000 going to be sufficient to farm at a semi-decent pace?
€: That's gold, not Euro.
I would say the cost of making a competent A3 DH is pretty low compared to everything but WW barb. I'm not sure how much 20mil is on EU, but I think that would be enough on NA, and from what I've heard, EU prices are lower.
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Russian Federation4235 Posts
I have a 70k DPS (pre SS) 250 mf 120k EHP DH worth around 50 mil on EU so yeah it's possible.
Squeeze the best MF out of your follower and aim for good DPS pieces with MF on them. Pure DPS with MF is pretty cheap, it only gets expensive if you try to gear for EHP as well.
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So do I understand correctly that the MF counted for your kills is your mf + your followers? In that case I need to do some gear switching :D
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Russian Federation4235 Posts
20% of follower's MF is added to yours. So if you have a templar with perfect MF on all blue slots (shield, rings and amulet) it will be around 19% mf (should be less than a million total). More if you add Sun Keeper but that can get expensive. Or you could use an enchantress, there are unique 2-handers that give sizeable amounts of both MF and GF and aren't worth much.
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Russian Federation4235 Posts
On September 23 2012 21:28 oneofthem wrote:
problem with dex is that it does not lower the gear check for getting one/two shot at all, and the mitigation only converges to its expected value over a long period of facetanking, which obviously a kiting char would not do.
keep in mind gloom is nerfed by 40%, and this is even taking into account -25% incoming monster damage. it is actually nerfed by 85% as far as damage mitigation goes. perfectionist does not make up for 85% ehp at all.
Everyone talks about Gloom nerf as if it had 100% uptime. I will test it on PTR as soon as it goes live on EU, but I don't think it will be that bad if you have 30 max disc and no full legacy Nat like most not-so-rich people do.
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
it will give non-legacy nats people more bang for their discipline, but you still need to get some more ehp to use gloom as a burst tank. this is even more true if you attempt monster power levels above 0..
my suggestion is to get the new nat set, starting with cloak, hats then boot ring.
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On September 23 2012 21:28 oneofthem wrote:
problem with dex is that it does not lower the gear check for getting one/two shot at all, and the mitigation only converges to its expected value over a long period of facetanking, which obviously a kiting char would not do.
keep in mind gloom is nerfed by 40%, and this is even taking into account -25% incoming monster damage. it is actually nerfed by 85% as far as damage mitigation goes. perfectionist does not make up for 85% ehp at all.
i dont get the 85% damage mitigation
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
gloom right now reduces damage by 65%, so you take 35% damage after gloom. when it changes to 35% damage mitigation, you are taking 65% damage instead. so you are taking 65/35 or about 185% damage. 85% more damage taken, or a loss of about 45% ehp while under the effect of gloom.
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So basically blizz is trying to screw DH's over harder? Finally built up to 400 all res, and now this ><
I still get 2 shot by little blue spiders, and sometimes phasebeasts. But once I get a deadman's, the missing vit of my current quiver should give me a lot more survivability. But does it even matter anymore D:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/MarshallD-1209/hero/1084764
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
you'll probably be okay. the nerf is mainly targeted against nat users.
considering 25% monster damage nerf, your damage mitigated per discipline remains unchanged, because gloom is going from 3 to 5 seconds, a 40% increase in duration to compensate for 40% less mitigation per second. it is assumed that non-nat players would get most of this 40% increase in duration (4 gloom for 30 disc or 20 seconds), while nat users will get lower practical bonus duration during actual play experience.
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http://www.diabloprogress.com/player/livendays-1166
hi im new here. been playing dh for sometime and cant seem to achieve 100k dps.can somebody tell me what i need to do and what mistakes i've did .. i farm act 2 at vota.
a little help and advice is very welcome.
thank you.
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Why can monk get over the move speed cap with their passive and DH can't with hot pursuit?
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On September 25 2012 14:03 liviyen wrote:http://www.diabloprogress.com/player/livendays-1166hi im new here. been playing dh for sometime and cant seem to achieve 100k dps.can somebody tell me what i need to do and what mistakes i've did .. i farm act 2 at vota. a little help and advice is very welcome. thank you.
I've looked through your gear and there are no glaring errors - I would suggest that your next upgrade should be your crossbow as I feel that it's a little low on DPS. What you can do is use a damage calculator and plug in theoretical values to find a suitable upgrade.
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thanks a lot. will do just that. been stuck at that dps for weeks now.guess i hv to farm alot of gold to feed my dh cos i dont rmah.
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On September 25 2012 16:43 liviyen wrote:
thanks a lot. will do just that. been stuck at that dps for weeks now.guess i hv to farm alot of gold to feed my dh cos i dont rmah.
I don't think you need alot of gold - I reckon a 1200 DPS 2h crossbow with a socket or 90+ crit will maybe go for like 10mil (dunno the price)? Importantly, use the damage calculator to indeed verify that it'll be a good upgrade for you.
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Gloom on ptr at mp5/6 with my gear is fine. I can easily survive several hits from elite mobs and this is from gear that I farmed. Haven't touched the auction house - except to auction off items - and it's been really enjoyable for me.
Also, boar + perfection passive is necessary for playing a more 'tanky' dh - otherwise you die in one hit. Boar is amazingly tough though and blizz designed that pet pretty well. Survives quite a few elite phasebeast attacks and actually draws aggro from elite mobs which lets me focus more on dps as well without having to kite so much. I find using the scoundrel/enchantress pretty helpful in this regard because they have useful cc effects (scoundrel slow multishot that can freeze, enchantress obvious spells).
Found a pretty perfect manticore. I cried because I didn't find it live. 2sockets, 96CD, 11%as, 1200dps, 175 dex.
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