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Evilmystic
Profile Joined September 2010
Russian Federation266 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 21:03:32
September 01 2012 20:26 GMT
#2881
On September 02 2012 04:16 Genome852 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 16:47 julianto wrote:
On September 01 2012 16:39 JoeSchmoe wrote:
incoming nerf to Vault ToC

Oh looky, guess we DH's only choice is to go glass cannon.

What does ToC have to do with your defensive stats?

ToC allows you to live through damage without gimping your DPS. With around 300 AR and 30k HP I can just rush into desecrate, arcane, etc. with proper vault and SP-Gloom usage. That's risky but a lot more fun than kiting elites on the edge of the screen, you know.
Genome852
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States979 Posts
September 01 2012 22:13 GMT
#2882
On September 02 2012 05:26 Evilmystic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 04:16 Genome852 wrote:
On September 01 2012 16:47 julianto wrote:
On September 01 2012 16:39 JoeSchmoe wrote:
incoming nerf to Vault ToC

Oh looky, guess we DH's only choice is to go glass cannon.

What does ToC have to do with your defensive stats?

ToC allows you to live through damage without gimping your DPS. With around 300 AR and 30k HP I can just rush into desecrate, arcane, etc. with proper vault and SP-Gloom usage. That's risky but a lot more fun than kiting elites on the edge of the screen, you know.

ToC lets you trade discipline for insane DPS, it has nothing to do with whether you're a glass cannon or not. Though, glass cannons w/ 5k hp probably wouldn't want to use it offensively anyways.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
September 01 2012 22:31 GMT
#2883
a glass cannon using trails is doable, but only when you have room to backtrack. it's definitely not as fast as someone tanky enough to vault into mobs and skip trash.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 01 2012 23:21 GMT
#2884
You can't use it as complete glass cannon as in 0 Vit 0 AR. But you shouldnt be running around like that anyway.
twitch.tv/medrea
Velzi
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland659 Posts
September 02 2012 17:44 GMT
#2885
Hi all!

Where should i start upgrading my gear, i got 10,9M gold now
this is my profile: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/MiQuli-2738/hero/3087733
I think it comes to my critical hit chance but i wouldn't like to spend 10m to one small ring :|
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you to their level and then beat you with experience. http://www.dotabuff.com/players/115305822 https://yasp.co/players/115305822
zomgE
Profile Joined January 2012
498 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 17:56:10
September 02 2012 17:55 GMT
#2886
On September 03 2012 02:44 Velzi wrote:
Hi all!

Where should i start upgrading my gear, i got 10,9M gold now
this is my profile: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/MiQuli-2738/hero/3087733
I think it comes to my critical hit chance but i wouldn't like to spend 10m to one small ring :|

yeah or also a new weapon might be nice. i'd recommend a crossbow if you like cluster arrow.
Velzi
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland659 Posts
September 02 2012 18:00 GMT
#2887
On September 03 2012 02:55 zomgE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 02:44 Velzi wrote:
Hi all!

Where should i start upgrading my gear, i got 10,9M gold now
this is my profile: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/MiQuli-2738/hero/3087733
I think it comes to my critical hit chance but i wouldn't like to spend 10m to one small ring :|

yeah or also a new weapon might be nice. i'd recommend a crossbow if you like cluster arrow.
What sort of crossbow i should be looking for? As much dps as possible no matter other stats? Should it have socket or high critical hit damage? Does weapon need to have dex? Life on hit or lifesteal?
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you to their level and then beat you with experience. http://www.dotabuff.com/players/115305822 https://yasp.co/players/115305822
zomgE
Profile Joined January 2012
498 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 18:18:36
September 02 2012 18:18 GMT
#2888
On September 03 2012 03:00 Velzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 02:55 zomgE wrote:
On September 03 2012 02:44 Velzi wrote:
Hi all!

Where should i start upgrading my gear, i got 10,9M gold now
this is my profile: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/MiQuli-2738/hero/3087733
I think it comes to my critical hit chance but i wouldn't like to spend 10m to one small ring :|

yeah or also a new weapon might be nice. i'd recommend a crossbow if you like cluster arrow.
What sort of crossbow i should be looking for? As much dps as possible no matter other stats? Should it have socket or high critical hit damage? Does weapon need to have dex? Life on hit or lifesteal?

Usually it's better to get one with a socket but you might find a good deal with base crit dmg though unlikely. I'd try to get dex or vit - if it has both it's probably overpriced. No reason for loh or ls unless you can get it on a good deal obviously. Shadow power is enough. Use a damage calculator to determine the best dps increase for your gear.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
September 02 2012 18:56 GMT
#2889
This is my current char: https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Azzur-1861/hero/13202826

Currently have 50mil and there will be at least another 30mil coming (potentially more) - so, with lots of cash to burn, I'm looking at making some major upgrades.

Top of my list is the quiver and then possibly crossbow/rings.

A question to the DHs: is the natalya's set worth it (especially with the nerf to ToC coming up)? If I decide to get it, should I get the old or new set?
subzer0
Profile Joined August 2011
67 Posts
September 02 2012 19:31 GMT
#2890
the nerf to toc just isn't fair
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 19:35:42
September 02 2012 19:34 GMT
#2891
On September 03 2012 02:55 zomgE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 02:44 Velzi wrote:
Hi all!

Where should i start upgrading my gear, i got 10,9M gold now
this is my profile: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/MiQuli-2738/hero/3087733
I think it comes to my critical hit chance but i wouldn't like to spend 10m to one small ring :|

yeah or also a new weapon might be nice. i'd recommend a crossbow if you like cluster arrow.


From a quick look:

Gloves: Get one with +crit and crit dmg (only has + crit dmg atm) with similar dex or better dex roll, shouldn't be too expensive
Quiver: Get a similar one with better dex roll, quivers can roll up to 300 dex.

These are probably cheaper upgrades than jewelry (which tend to be much more expensive).
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
September 02 2012 21:58 GMT
#2892
I'd recommend selling your Firewalkers and getting some plain rare ones. Legendaries are worth more purely because they're legendaries, and the only thing special about Firewalkers is the burning, which is largely irrelevant (unless you get some amazing rolls).

For roughly the same price, you could get 12% movement with 200+ Dex, plus Resist All or Vit. Plus a few other random mods.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Ig
Profile Joined January 2011
United States417 Posts
September 03 2012 04:01 GMT
#2893
On September 03 2012 04:31 subzer0 wrote:
the nerf to toc just isn't fair

Its perfectly fair and should have been done sooner. As fun as it is, its stupid op and just isn't right.
E-warrior of the China brigade, 50 cent party member.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
September 03 2012 04:16 GMT
#2894
The ToC nerf was needed because it wasn't very DHish - I have no problems if an OP skill was class iconic (e.g. rain of vengence or cluster arrow). But vaulting around killing mobs doesn't feel very right.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
September 03 2012 05:32 GMT
#2895
you don't have to kill mobs using vault exclusively. maybe nerf it to 750% or something but 300% will mean it wont be used.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
September 03 2012 06:15 GMT
#2896
On September 03 2012 14:32 oneofthem wrote:
you don't have to kill mobs using vault exclusively. maybe nerf it to 750% or something but 300% will mean it wont be used.



I thought they would put it down to 750 or so, but 300% is going to make it unusable..atleast at inferno, dont know about the lower levels. You'd get so much more from tumble, which will be what everyone ends up picking.
diablo3guy
Profile Joined September 2012
6 Posts
September 03 2012 06:34 GMT
#2897
On September 03 2012 14:32 oneofthem wrote:
you don't have to kill mobs using vault exclusively. maybe nerf it to 750% or something but 300% will mean it wont be used.


its actually at 7500% right now instead of 1500%, so all they are doing is bringing it down where it was supposed to be originally. stop crying, DH is still miles ahead of everyone else for farming.
zomgE
Profile Joined January 2012
498 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 07:23:15
September 03 2012 07:22 GMT
#2898
On September 03 2012 15:34 diablo3guy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 14:32 oneofthem wrote:
you don't have to kill mobs using vault exclusively. maybe nerf it to 750% or something but 300% will mean it wont be used.
DH is still miles ahead of everyone else for farming.

how's that : O
never seen a ww barb mate?
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
September 03 2012 07:29 GMT
#2899
On September 03 2012 15:34 diablo3guy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 14:32 oneofthem wrote:
you don't have to kill mobs using vault exclusively. maybe nerf it to 750% or something but 300% will mean it wont be used.


its actually at 7500% right now instead of 1500%, so all they are doing is bringing it down where it was supposed to be originally. stop crying, DH is still miles ahead of everyone else for farming.

no it is 1500% instead of 300% as originally intended.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
gutshot
Profile Joined February 2011
United States429 Posts
September 03 2012 15:52 GMT
#2900
On September 03 2012 15:34 diablo3guy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 14:32 oneofthem wrote:
you don't have to kill mobs using vault exclusively. maybe nerf it to 750% or something but 300% will mean it wont be used.


its actually at 7500% right now instead of 1500%, so all they are doing is bringing it down where it was supposed to be originally. stop crying, DH is still miles ahead of everyone else for farming.

el oh el 7500%
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