EPTI'm not looking for survival stuff here. I just want something to top up my health while I'm rolling through mobs, so I can be lazy and not have to constantly pick up/buy pots.
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
I'm not looking for survival stuff here. I just want something to top up my health while I'm rolling through mobs, so I can be lazy and not have to constantly pick up/buy pots. | ||
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Banishment
Germany102 Posts
Not even considering the fact that im unable to just straight up walk through trash mobs which i guess wouldnt be a problem with a barb or a monk. Can i pass through Act3? Yes. But farm?I get 5 Elitepacks in act2 by the time i get one in act3. But what pissing me off the most about this game is being reliant on 5 Stacks of Nephalem Valor.... I just dont enjoy slashing and slaying the same monsters for 2 hours and rather play half an hour between some games of starcraft or some College work.... But currently there is no point in doing a half an hour run. Anyways, back to my question: How do you do it? I have problems to regenerate life and even if i survive a fight with say 2000 hp im not really willing to wait till i regenerated enough health and discipline. What do you do in such a situation? Use 2 pots? Wait? Go on and just regenerate life by being awesome and kill shit? Its just hard for me to believe that my Midmaster-Skill is not good enough for act3 :/. http://eu.battle.net/d3/de/profile/Banishment-2215/hero/1785554 Thats my profile. Any Idea on what i could improve? | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On August 30 2012 12:27 Banishment wrote: I am really wondering how you people do it. Im currently sitting at 57 dps, 37 k Health and 200 AR and yet I'm unable to farm in Act3. I am dying to trashmobs all the time. After the countless nerfs those give me a bigger headache than the elite packs do.... Not even considering the fact that im unable to just straight up walk through trash mobs which i guess wouldnt be a problem with a barb or a monk. Can i pass through Act3? Yes. But farm?I get 5 Elitepacks in act2 by the time i get one in act3. But what pissing me off the most about this game is being reliant on 5 Stacks of Nephalem Valor.... I just dont enjoy slashing and slaying the same monsters for 2 hours and rather play half an hour between some games of starcraft or some College work.... But currently there is no point in doing a half an hour run. Anyways, back to my question: How do you do it? I have problems to regenerate life and even if i survive a fight with say 2000 hp im not really willing to wait till i regenerated enough health and discipline. What do you do in such a situation? Use 2 pots? Wait? Go on and just regenerate life by being awesome and kill shit? Its just hard for me to believe that my Midmaster-Skill is not good enough for act3 :/. http://eu.battle.net/d3/de/profile/Banishment-2215/hero/1785554 Thats my profile. Any Idea on what i could improve? Why are you using impale with crit rune when you have only 27% crit? Cluster arrow will do like 2x as much damage and AOE. Get a new quiver. they can roll up to 290 dex base now. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
Hungering Arrow should be your Elite killer, unless you want to swap one of your active skills for Cluster Bombs. | ||
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
On August 28 2012 08:39 Gandalf wrote: I'm in the same boat as you, playing DH at 350-500ms and sometimes regretting it because it seems to be the class that suffers most with high pings. For me, personally, gloom and smokescreen are still usable, although obviously I have to play safe and anticipate somewhat. Vault, on the other hand, seems really, really weird. My DH stands still for 0.5-1 second every time I hit the vault hotkey, THEN vaults. Would you mind linking me to your profile? I've been considering increasing the tankiness of my DH, and your gear might guide me. Here is my DH. Sacrificed some dps for resist/armour.She farms act 3 easily,act 1 and act 2 is pretty much one shot everything on your way to the boss. I still cant use smoke screen though I do use gloom now,it takes the survivability up a lot. I tend to rely a lot on health globes,still experimenting with the build though, trail of cinders is awesome lol, the manticore gives you so much of flexibility  .I think I can do better in terms of damage, by upping that dex, to round about 1800 and maybe some more disc. But I have a feeling it's going to cost a lot more money per stat from here onwards, till now I depended mostly on my drops and items that cost around 100k-200k or below. The vault thing happens to me as well, the commands just dont go through frequently, and press vault twice or thrice in frustration...and I end up vaulting all over the place,into poison pools/fire pits etc  very very annoying. | ||
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Azzur
Australia6255 Posts
On August 30 2012 12:27 Banishment wrote: I am really wondering how you people do it. Im currently sitting at 57 dps, 37 k Health and 200 AR and yet I'm unable to farm in Act3. I am dying to trashmobs all the time. After the countless nerfs those give me a bigger headache than the elite packs do.... Not even considering the fact that im unable to just straight up walk through trash mobs which i guess wouldnt be a problem with a barb or a monk. Can i pass through Act3? Yes. But farm?I get 5 Elitepacks in act2 by the time i get one in act3. But what pissing me off the most about this game is being reliant on 5 Stacks of Nephalem Valor.... I just dont enjoy slashing and slaying the same monsters for 2 hours and rather play half an hour between some games of starcraft or some College work.... But currently there is no point in doing a half an hour run. Anyways, back to my question: How do you do it? I have problems to regenerate life and even if i survive a fight with say 2000 hp im not really willing to wait till i regenerated enough health and discipline. What do you do in such a situation? Use 2 pots? Wait? Go on and just regenerate life by being awesome and kill shit? Its just hard for me to believe that my Midmaster-Skill is not good enough for act3 :/. http://eu.battle.net/d3/de/profile/Banishment-2215/hero/1785554 Thats my profile. Any Idea on what i could improve? A very good cookie-cutter build is: - Hungering Arrow (more dmg on pierce rune), Cluster Arrow (Loaded for Bear) - Bat, Shadow Power (Gloom), SS, Prep Of course, there are other ways to play, but the above build has proven success. Now, if you'll like to play in your own style, I'll ask the following questions: - What are you going to use as your AOE? Impale and HA can't really serve this purpose. If you don't want to use Cluster Arrow you can use Ball Lightning. - Your build is setup for lots of moving (i.e. you don't have Gloom). In your case, you either want to nuke off-screen or be able to unload the DPS. Impale is not really good for off-screen nuking, you can try Ball Lighting or use Loaded for Bear for fast DPS. - Caltrops + Vault seems to conflict with each other, i.e. you want mobs to chase you but you trap them with Caltrops. I would use Rain of Vengence instead of Vault or swap our Caltrops for something else. - Gloom is really good for middle-of-the-road DHs (i.e. those that have some survivalbility but not max DPS). You can really trying to playstyle. However, I'm sure you can make other styles work. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
390% weapon dmg and building 4 hatred per shot is really strong. people who have very high dps so that mobs dont reach them should try it out. | ||
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
On August 30 2012 17:00 LaNague wrote: man i really wish evasive fire wouldnt have the defensive roll for 4 discipline :D 390% weapon dmg and building 4 hatred per shot is really strong. people who have very high dps so that mobs dont reach them should try it out. I use it, and the backflip has gotten me killed a few times, like backing in into those bombs in act 3 unintentionally. There was a period when I used two generators lol, HA was good because you dont really have to aim with it, and evasive was nice to hit multiple targets, and certain situations for lazy kiting. It is also the best pot breaker in the game....this is actually important :p, I switched back to HA (evasive feels really weird to shoot from a mouse click) and found it sooo tedious to break pots, so I switched back. | ||
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Entropic
Canada2837 Posts
On August 30 2012 17:23 dartoo wrote: I use it, and the backflip has gotten me killed a few times, like backing in into those bombs in act 3 unintentionally. There was a period when I used two generators lol, HA was good because you dont really have to aim with it, and evasive was nice to hit multiple targets, and certain situations for lazy kiting. It is also the best pot breaker in the game....this is actually important :p, I switched back to HA (evasive feels really weird to shoot from a mouse click) and found it sooo tedious to break pots, so I switched back. Hungering with Spray of Teeth is decent for pot breaking (with 30+% crit). Also IMO Multishot with Fire At Will (for hatred cost reduction) is the best pot breaker haha | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
I think it would be very viable then, increasing this "build diversity" they chase after. | ||
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Evilmystic
Russian Federation266 Posts
After 1.0.4 the Shadow Power (Gloom) + Vault (TOC) combo looks like the best thing out there, it allows you to move quickly through the trash mobs and just decimates elites if you have enough DPS. You can check my profile for my current build, had a lot of fun with it in act 3 lately. While my current DPS is much higher than required for smooth act 3 farm I've had only a bit more than 60k DPS when the patch came out and the build still worked. | ||
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McNulty
Norway184 Posts
Like Evilmystic said, i LOVE the no projectile style of it. Waiting for your shots to hit, and sometimes even seeing them miss = zzzzzzz. 3 instant 200k crits = jizz in pants. The backflip CAN get you killed, but i honestly think it saved my life more often than it killed me. Btw, funny bug with Evasive: as long as you stand up against a wall (or something else which blocks your backflip) and shoot at an enemy so close it makes you backflip, you gain like 200% attack speed, shooting 2-3 times with 1,2 normal attack speed. I see you are using Multishot, how good is it? I've only farmed some gold with it here and there in Hell / NM, and even then i don't think it does too impressive damage considering the cost... | ||
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gutshot
United States429 Posts
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Butcherski
Poland446 Posts
On August 30 2012 12:27 Banishment wrote: I am really wondering how you people do it. Im currently sitting at 57 dps, 37 k Health and 200 AR and yet I'm unable to farm in Act3. I am dying to trashmobs all the time. After the countless nerfs those give me a bigger headache than the elite packs do.... Not even considering the fact that im unable to just straight up walk through trash mobs which i guess wouldnt be a problem with a barb or a monk. Can i pass through Act3? Yes. But farm?I get 5 Elitepacks in act2 by the time i get one in act3. But what pissing me off the most about this game is being reliant on 5 Stacks of Nephalem Valor.... I just dont enjoy slashing and slaying the same monsters for 2 hours and rather play half an hour between some games of starcraft or some College work.... But currently there is no point in doing a half an hour run. Anyways, back to my question: How do you do it? I have problems to regenerate life and even if i survive a fight with say 2000 hp im not really willing to wait till i regenerated enough health and discipline. What do you do in such a situation? Use 2 pots? Wait? Go on and just regenerate life by being awesome and kill shit? Its just hard for me to believe that my Midmaster-Skill is not good enough for act3 :/. http://eu.battle.net/d3/de/profile/Banishment-2215/hero/1785554 Thats my profile. Any Idea on what i could improve? You stats seem close to mine and i clear A3 everyday without much problems. Here is my profile link for reference ( i may have double 1h equipped atm but it will switch after i log out ) http://eu.battle.net/d3/pl/profile/Butcherski-2702/hero/438358 41k hp and >200 AR. If you take away the MF my gear become mediocre or even bad Most important thing stat wise is to make sure you are not being 1 shotted by phasebeasts. Easy to check that one Once you can take a hit and still stand you shoul be good to go.Big part of clearing A3 easily IMO is learning the mobs but that comes with time. Like knowing when phasebeasts are gonna teleport behind you or how to time your SS in order to avoid the dmg. Use elemental arrow to clear trash and trail of cinders to quickly take care of the tougher mobs. Hungering is there to finishing off anything still standing. I tried using gloom but it cuts in to my discipline reserve for caltrops. Caltrops are used mainly to keep phasebeasts away and to kite offscreen mobs. Get yourself some cheap 1handers with life on hit and you dont need gloom for reflect damage mobs. | ||
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Evilmystic
Russian Federation266 Posts
On August 30 2012 21:09 McNulty wrote: Btw, funny bug with Evasive: as long as you stand up against a wall (or something else which blocks your backflip) and shoot at an enemy so close it makes you backflip, you gain like 200% attack speed, shooting 2-3 times with 1,2 normal attack speed. I see you are using Multishot, how good is it? I've only farmed some gold with it here and there in Hell / NM, and even then i don't think it does too impressive damage considering the cost... Yeah, the backflip resets your attack cooldown, it burns discipline really fast but can save your life if you're cornered. Multishot is pretty effective against groups of low hp mobs and helps to regenerate some disc with the suppression fire rune. It's high hatred cost doesn't concern me much, cause I use TOC as my main DPS ability against high hp creatures and elites. | ||
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Entropic
Canada2837 Posts
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Entr0pic-1555/hero/20850780 Anyone got tips? Just started doing Act 3 today. | ||
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Azzur
Australia6255 Posts
On August 31 2012 14:22 Entropic wrote: After scouring the AH for hours and hours the past couple of days looking for deals on the cheap, I've hit a lull and now am wondering what would be the most cost-effective upgrades I can make right now. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Entr0pic-1555/hero/20850780 Anyone got tips? Just started doing Act 3 today. As your DPS increases, upgrades will start to cost more-and-more. I can't remember what 60k DPS was like, but I have a feeling a new upgrade will be around 1mil+. I don't think there's a "hard-and-fast" rule: in reality, most of the upgrades will be "good enough". In fact, it may be more productive farming rather than finding the "best" deal when a "good enough" is available. | ||
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
On August 31 2012 14:22 Entropic wrote: After scouring the AH for hours and hours the past couple of days looking for deals on the cheap, I've hit a lull and now am wondering what would be the most cost-effective upgrades I can make right now. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Entr0pic-1555/hero/20850780 Anyone got tips? Just started doing Act 3 today. The quiver, 14% attack speed, and slightly lower chance to crit,lower dex,makes it a prime candidate. Edit: as Azzur mentions, it will be a lot tougher to find those cheap deals the higher you go, especially for the quiver cause your play style seems to use a lot of disc, so high dex, with crit, and 15% attack speed is okay, but when you put disc into the equation, the cost will go up by a lot. | ||
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Entropic
Canada2837 Posts
On August 31 2012 14:39 Azzur wrote: As your DPS increases, upgrades will start to cost more-and-more. I can't remember what 60k DPS was like, but I have a feeling a new upgrade will be around 1mil+. I don't think there's a "hard-and-fast" rule: in reality, most of the upgrades will be "good enough". In fact, it may be more productive farming rather than finding the "best" deal when a "good enough" is available. + Show Spoiler + On August 31 2012 14:44 dartoo wrote: The quiver, 14% attack speed, and slightly lower chance to crit,lower dex,makes it a prime candidate. Edit: as Azzur mentions, it will be a lot tougher to find those cheap deals the higher you go, especially for the quiver cause your play style seems to use a lot of disc, so high dex, with crit, and 15% attack speed is okay, but when you put disc into the equation, the cost will go up by a lot. Ah alright then. I should just get used to the fact that now upgrades will cost a hefty sum most of the time. Thanks for the tips. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On August 31 2012 14:44 dartoo wrote: The quiver, 14% attack speed, and slightly lower chance to crit,lower dex,makes it a prime candidate. Edit: as Azzur mentions, it will be a lot tougher to find those cheap deals the higher you go, especially for the quiver cause your play style seems to use a lot of disc, so high dex, with crit, and 15% attack speed is okay, but when you put disc into the equation, the cost will go up by a lot. he needs to use trail of cinder. and at that level you need to start considering sacrificing a bit of one stat to gain a lot of another. crit chance for example, can be ignored if you use the ss+toc trick. just do this until they nerf that into the ground and then use the money you made in the meantime for upgrades. | ||
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