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Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
August 29 2012 03:52 GMT
#2821
Yeah, I agree that the quiver is great - however, I would sell it, use the proceeds to buy decent great which will help progress immensely. Then, when he has made money, the price of quivers would've dropped by then, and if he decides to do so, he can rebuy it.
Serpest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States603 Posts
August 29 2012 07:03 GMT
#2822
So how much would that go for? And what kind of gear would I be looking at?
A person that attempts to diagnose themselves has a fool for a doctor and a bigger fool for a patient.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 12:05:56
August 29 2012 07:43 GMT
#2823
your quiver would be in the lower end of all the deadman legacies on the market. but it will sell at that end because of the perfect crit roll and fairly decent atkspeed. you can check on that market to see and price accordingly. the prices on those are going down constantly so do it fast.

as for what you are looking to buy, get a xbow with socket, and maybe vit on it. they are very cheap at the moment you can get a 1200 dps socket with 100+ vit for a few million. the rest of the gear you just use the 'best piece under 100k/200k etc' method. you need to get some survivability in addition to dmg. look at mystical's 5m dh guide for some ideas

edit: i see you've made a lot of upgrades already so...it's your choice if you keep the quiver or not. you should get a better weapon though.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
crisiscore
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia72 Posts
August 29 2012 08:31 GMT
#2824
Is deadman legacies the best quivers or are there other better legendary quivers?
Also when I'm at 120-130k DPS without sharpshooter, what helps me more to get more damage ... getting more crit or getting more attack speed? ... or I guess just maxing out on Dex for each slot?
I'm at 39% crit chance and 46% attack speed and +2183 dex.

how the hell do guys get such insane DPS numbers 250k+ dps without sharpshooter.
d(O_O)b
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
August 29 2012 11:54 GMT
#2825
On August 29 2012 17:31 crisiscore wrote:
Is deadman legacies the best quivers or are there other better legendary quivers?
Also when I'm at 120-130k DPS without sharpshooter, what helps me more to get more damage ... getting more crit or getting more attack speed? ... or I guess just maxing out on Dex for each slot?
I'm at 39% crit chance and 46% attack speed and +2183 dex.

how the hell do guys get such insane DPS numbers 250k+ dps without sharpshooter.


deadman legacies are pretty much the undisputed best quivers. it used to be black bone arrows imo but that's no longer the case.
SirKibbleX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States479 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 12:47:56
August 29 2012 12:47 GMT
#2826
How do you guys run A3 without getting wiped repeatedly? I am running 49 Disc and I try to keep Gloom up 100%, but no matter what I do some faster mob(s) always end up killing me in 3-4 hits. I have 26k life and 130 Allres, and I do 60k DPS without SS. I know how to kite, have +12% runspeed, and know to pop smoke/gloom when needed. What is going wrong here? Is it just my tactics?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SiRe-1336/hero/14303428
Praemonitus, Praemunitus.
Ym1r
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 16:12:18
August 29 2012 13:19 GMT
#2827
On August 29 2012 21:47 SirKibbleX wrote:
How do you guys run A3 without getting wiped repeatedly? I am running 49 Disc and I try to keep Gloom up 100%, but no matter what I do some faster mob(s) always end up killing me in 3-4 hits. I have 26k life and 130 Allres, and I do 60k DPS without SS. I know how to kite, have +12% runspeed, and know to pop smoke/gloom when needed. What is going wrong here? Is it just my tactics?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SiRe-1336/hero/14303428


Probably just your tactics/skills. No point in using ball lightning if you're going to kite constantly, it's much easier firing off a loaded for bear cluster arrow quickly, and continue kiting. I use vault (toc) in order to keep distance, I only need Gloom when reflect damage comes (or if something gets to close). RoV flying strike is helpful too. Iunno though, I have slightly better stats than you too, so it this works for me, you can give it a try.

heres my profile if you wanna look at it.

edit: rofl I thought I posted my profile http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Ym1r-1314/hero/836883

I just started doing act 3, only died a couple times due to me not paying attention and watching korean dramas instead. I like doing something while I'm farming, so I don't get bored out of my mind.
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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
August 29 2012 13:21 GMT
#2828
On August 29 2012 21:47 SirKibbleX wrote:
How do you guys run A3 without getting wiped repeatedly? I am running 49 Disc and I try to keep Gloom up 100%, but no matter what I do some faster mob(s) always end up killing me in 3-4 hits. I have 26k life and 130 Allres, and I do 60k DPS without SS. I know how to kite, have +12% runspeed, and know to pop smoke/gloom when needed. What is going wrong here? Is it just my tactics?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SiRe-1336/hero/14303428


you should think about getting some survivability. I have 40k hp, 3000 armor and 200 all res with 40k dps, i dont play for long, all my items are basically max 200k at auction house.
I think not dying is worth more than a bit more dps, since you have to run back and spend gold repairing.


i guess once you oneshot everything with 150k dps, you can go back to running around with 20k life.
SirKibbleX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States479 Posts
August 29 2012 13:46 GMT
#2829
I will try to work towards getting some more survivability. I was thinking about getting some Inna's or some other DPS boosting gear, but now I'm not really sure where I should invest. I like having speed so I can kite big packs with lots of HP that I'd be afraid to face down, but I can generally clear most whites without having to resort to that with Ball Lightning. If I get enough defense I guess I could go back to vault/cinders, but I might try out Cluster over Vault. Should I really drop Ball Lightning for something else though? I have about 20 Million gold and I don't really know what to spend it on to upgrade my character best. I'm sure that can go a long way to boosting my performance/profitability, but I just don't know how best to spend it.
Praemonitus, Praemunitus.
Cenja
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden498 Posts
August 29 2012 17:43 GMT
#2830
I have some questions about builds after 1.0.4. Hungering arrow seems to be the best hatred generator but what is the best hatred spender? Cluster Arrow, Multishot or Elemental Arrow? Also do you guys use both smoke screen and shadow power or one of them with another hatred spender? If so which?

I'd also like to know which pieces of gear I could upgrade most cost-efficiently, I'm thinking a weapon with higher dps and crit dmg. http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Cenja-2928/hero/7060198
Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
August 29 2012 20:44 GMT
#2831
On August 30 2012 02:43 Cenja wrote:
I have some questions about builds after 1.0.4. Hungering arrow seems to be the best hatred generator but what is the best hatred spender? Cluster Arrow, Multishot or Elemental Arrow? Also do you guys use both smoke screen and shadow power or one of them with another hatred spender? If so which?

I'd also like to know which pieces of gear I could upgrade most cost-efficiently, I'm thinking a weapon with higher dps and crit dmg. http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Cenja-2928/hero/7060198


There really is no reason for a second hatred spender,but you should swap out Elemental arrow for Cluster/Loaded for Bear. The strength of Ele is that with high attack speed, you can hit multiple targets multiple times. If you're just going to shoot a Crossbow, you want those shots to hurt because they aren't coming very fast. Cluster allows you to blow shit up.

Most people use Shadow Power/Gloom generously and save Smokescreen/Lingering Fog to be kind of an "Oh Shit" button. I use them both, and recommend you do the same.

As far as your gear, your bow could easily be upgraded. A socket and a Star gem will give you an extra 30% crit damage. Your rings are both really bad. Prioritize crit damage, and chance on them above Dex if you can afford high rolls for all three. Also, you've got 3 Disc spells... you might consider finding a chest with some disc as well. You can also get disc on rings. I picked up a legacy SOJ with disc for 400k recently.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
August 29 2012 20:46 GMT
#2832
On August 30 2012 05:44 Terranasaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 02:43 Cenja wrote:
I have some questions about builds after 1.0.4. Hungering arrow seems to be the best hatred generator but what is the best hatred spender? Cluster Arrow, Multishot or Elemental Arrow? Also do you guys use both smoke screen and shadow power or one of them with another hatred spender? If so which?

I'd also like to know which pieces of gear I could upgrade most cost-efficiently, I'm thinking a weapon with higher dps and crit dmg. http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Cenja-2928/hero/7060198


There really is no reason for a second hatred spender,but you should swap out Elemental arrow for Cluster/Loaded for Bear. The strength of Ele is that with high attack speed, you can hit multiple targets multiple times. If you're just going to shoot a Crossbow, you want those shots to hurt because they aren't coming very fast. Cluster allows you to blow shit up.

Most people use Shadow Power/Gloom generously and save Smokescreen/Lingering Fog to be kind of an "Oh Shit" button. I use them both, and recommend you do the same.

As far as your gear, your bow could easily be upgraded. A socket and a Star gem will give you an extra 30% crit damage. Your rings are both really bad. Prioritize crit damage, and chance on them above Dex if you can afford high rolls for all three. Also, you've got 3 Disc spells... you might consider finding a chest with some disc as well. You can also get disc on rings. I picked up a legacy SOJ with disc for 400k recently.

His left ring is actually not bad at all =o
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
August 29 2012 20:53 GMT
#2833
What are good benchmark stats to be able to farm Act3 decently? From looking around I'm thinking at least

60k+ dps
25k-40k life (I'm a discipline lover so I don't think I'll need as much life).
300 Physical Resist
250 AR

or is that a bit on the low end?
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 20:55:01
August 29 2012 20:53 GMT
#2834
On August 30 2012 05:46 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 05:44 Terranasaur wrote:
On August 30 2012 02:43 Cenja wrote:
I have some questions about builds after 1.0.4. Hungering arrow seems to be the best hatred generator but what is the best hatred spender? Cluster Arrow, Multishot or Elemental Arrow? Also do you guys use both smoke screen and shadow power or one of them with another hatred spender? If so which?

I'd also like to know which pieces of gear I could upgrade most cost-efficiently, I'm thinking a weapon with higher dps and crit dmg. http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Cenja-2928/hero/7060198


There really is no reason for a second hatred spender,but you should swap out Elemental arrow for Cluster/Loaded for Bear. The strength of Ele is that with high attack speed, you can hit multiple targets multiple times. If you're just going to shoot a Crossbow, you want those shots to hurt because they aren't coming very fast. Cluster allows you to blow shit up.

Most people use Shadow Power/Gloom generously and save Smokescreen/Lingering Fog to be kind of an "Oh Shit" button. I use them both, and recommend you do the same.

As far as your gear, your bow could easily be upgraded. A socket and a Star gem will give you an extra 30% crit damage. Your rings are both really bad. Prioritize crit damage, and chance on them above Dex if you can afford high rolls for all three. Also, you've got 3 Disc spells... you might consider finding a chest with some disc as well. You can also get disc on rings. I picked up a legacy SOJ with disc for 400k recently.

His left ring is actually not bad at all =o


You LOVE that Vitality!

I think if he got a little more crit damage he would see a huge bump compared to the 4 crit chance he's getting on that ring.

On August 30 2012 05:53 Entropic wrote:
What are good benchmark stats to be able to farm Act3 decently? From looking around I'm thinking at least

60k+ dps
25k-40k life (I'm a discipline lover so I don't think I'll need as much life).
300 Physical Resist
250 AR

or is that a bit on the low end?


lol. those are fine. if you've got that, you're golden. Seriously.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
August 29 2012 21:30 GMT
#2835
i can do act 3 with 45k dps, 200 all resist and 40k life.

But its a little bumpy and maybe slow, but the doubled lvl 63 loot compared to act 2 might be worth it.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
August 30 2012 01:27 GMT
#2836
Okay, general question...what's the cheapest (relative) way to get some life on hit/life steal without sacrificing DPS? Like...3% Life Steal or 200-300 LoH is fine.

I'm thinking either a Skull Grasp (1.04), Ouroboros, or just Life Steal on a Crossbow...any other good options?
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
August 30 2012 01:31 GMT
#2837
On August 30 2012 10:27 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Okay, general question...what's the cheapest (relative) way to get some life on hit/life steal without sacrificing DPS? Like...3% Life Steal or 200-300 LoH is fine.

I'm thinking either a Skull Grasp (1.04), Ouroboros, or just Life Steal on a Crossbow...any other good options?


Shadow Power / Gloom. It's free

Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
August 30 2012 01:36 GMT
#2838
On August 30 2012 10:31 Terranasaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 10:27 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Okay, general question...what's the cheapest (relative) way to get some life on hit/life steal without sacrificing DPS? Like...3% Life Steal or 200-300 LoH is fine.

I'm thinking either a Skull Grasp (1.04), Ouroboros, or just Life Steal on a Crossbow...any other good options?


Shadow Power / Gloom. It's free


Or your could answer the actual question.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
LaiShin
Profile Joined November 2005
Australia978 Posts
August 30 2012 02:27 GMT
#2839
On August 30 2012 10:27 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Okay, general question...what's the cheapest (relative) way to get some life on hit/life steal without sacrificing DPS? Like...3% Life Steal or 200-300 LoH is fine.

I'm thinking either a Skull Grasp (1.04), Ouroboros, or just Life Steal on a Crossbow...any other good options?


If u only need 200-300, just get a loh ring to swap. It should take the least hit on ur dps and your cheapest option.

Personally, I use a [800+]bow with 800loh, socket (300loh), lifesteal and a 600loh ammy for swap.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 02:57:21
August 30 2012 02:56 GMT
#2840
On August 30 2012 10:36 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 10:31 Terranasaur wrote:
On August 30 2012 10:27 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Okay, general question...what's the cheapest (relative) way to get some life on hit/life steal without sacrificing DPS? Like...3% Life Steal or 200-300 LoH is fine.

I'm thinking either a Skull Grasp (1.04), Ouroboros, or just Life Steal on a Crossbow...any other good options?


Shadow Power / Gloom. It's free


Or your could answer the actual question.

He did (I bolded the relevant text).
I'm thinking either a Skull Grasp (1.04), Ouroboros, or just Life Steal on a Crossbow...any other good options
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