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Bergys
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden337 Posts
April 16 2011 19:50 GMT
#81
Well, this is the problem of having a tournament played online. Of course things like these are going to happen, which is bad for both the NASL and for the viewers. Imo the NASL is handling the situation well but maybe they should have avoided it from the start.
dragonblade369
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada464 Posts
April 16 2011 19:51 GMT
#82
Funny coincidence:
All the walk over occurred with top Protoss players (White-Ra, Naniwa and MC)

Joke aside, NASL should seriously do something about things like that. For example, shuffle around the broadcasting dates of games.
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1992 Posts
April 16 2011 19:53 GMT
#83
I think you can say that White-ra and Nani could be atleast partially to blame (im being generous) for not making the games happen, but oGsMC being punished for this just seems unfair. It was completely outside of his control and he told the NASL of the situation.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
Frozenhelfire
Profile Joined May 2010
United States420 Posts
April 16 2011 19:54 GMT
#84
A make up day is probably the best idea to come out of this thread. Maybe a makeup day each month. Assuming 1 missed game a week there can be another day of broadcasting each month with the games that got missed.
polar bears are fluffy
gosuprobe
Profile Joined March 2010
48 Posts
April 16 2011 19:54 GMT
#85
This news is disappointing, but there will be other good games.

On April 17 2011 04:49 S.O.L.I.D. wrote:
I thought people would be able to use common sense to understand what I meant, but I suppose I should have been more clear.

This is teamliquid.
S.O.L.I.D.
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States792 Posts
April 16 2011 19:55 GMT
#86
On April 17 2011 04:41 Pudge_172 wrote:
This is why NASL needs to go to an all offline tournament located in California


Yes, let's fly in 50 players for 12 weeks from all over the world so they cannot compete in any other LAN tournaments. That certainly makes sense.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15689 Posts
April 16 2011 20:01 GMT
#87
I posted this in another thread that ended up being a duplicate, which is why it got locked, so posting here:

This is getting to be too much. NASL wants to maintain their integrity as an organization by being firm with this stuff, but they are accomplishing the opposite. By having 3 matches so far not even happen, they are really hurting their prestige.

So far, the following huge names haven't been able to play their matches:

Naniwa
July
WhiteRa
MC

These players in specific were quite the hype-creators. If the NASL doesn't bend its rules to accommodate a player in the event of this happening again, I'll be extremely disappointed. The NASL needs the players just as badly, if not MORE than the players need them. There are a lot of other tournaments going on with big names, so the NASL is really hurting its image compared to these other tournaments by missing out on these big names playing in their league. I know they have a tight schedule and that there are reasons this happened. But the NASL can change that. I bought my NASL ticket, and although Moon vs Grubby alone was able to make it worth it, I sure as hell expected a lot more.

I realize it is easy to play the blame game, but that isn't even the biggest issue here. It is in NASL's best interest to have all these super hyped games played. Even though players need to be more responsible, without these really hyped matches, the NASL is hurting its self.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
April 16 2011 20:02 GMT
#88
Some of things I've read in this make me want to slam my head into my desk a few times. Seriously, every NASL thread seems to devolve into "NASL needs to do better and.. umm control everything!"

The players signed a contract, they didn't show or in this case they where unable to show due to most likely an Act of God due to weather causing a flight delay.

The NASL works on a tight broadcasting schedule trying to give a lot of great games in a short amount of time ie casting/recording the day before broadcast(2 days as of next week if I am reading the rescheduling right). What do you expect them to do? Seriously, they don't employ a wizard to control everything to work out perfectly bad luck happens. Stop blaming NASL for it. It's childish as best and at worst it's just.. unfathomably foolish.

It does suck to see the game not played but that's the only thing to be upset about.
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leungwk01
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1260 Posts
April 16 2011 20:03 GMT
#89
I thought the rules were changed that players could reschedule their matches by one day if they contacted them....
Unless the rule only applies on the day you play a major tournament.
CurLy[]
Profile Joined August 2010
United States759 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 20:06:20
April 16 2011 20:05 GMT
#90
Sigh... Another epic game being missed. Nasl you dissapoint. Players need to make there games man this sucks
Great pasta mom, very Korean. Even my crown leans to the side. Gangsta. --------->
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
April 16 2011 20:05 GMT
#91
On April 17 2011 05:01 Mohdoo wrote:
I posted this in another thread that ended up being a duplicate, which is why it got locked, so posting here:

This is getting to be too much. NASL wants to maintain their integrity as an organization by being firm with this stuff, but they are accomplishing the opposite. By having 3 matches so far not even happen, they are really hurting their prestige.

So far, the following huge names haven't been able to play their matches:

Naniwa
July
WhiteRa
MC

These players in specific were quite the hype-creators. If the NASL doesn't bend its rules to accommodate a player in the event of this happening again, I'll be extremely disappointed. The NASL needs the players just as badly, if not MORE than the players need them. There are a lot of other tournaments going on with big names, so the NASL is really hurting its image compared to these other tournaments by missing out on these big names playing in their league. I know they have a tight schedule and that there are reasons this happened. But the NASL can change that. I bought my NASL ticket, and although Moon vs Grubby alone was able to make it worth it, I sure as hell expected a lot more.

I realize it is easy to play the blame game, but that isn't even the biggest issue here. It is in NASL's best interest to have all these super hyped games played. Even though players need to be more responsible, without these really hyped matches, the NASL is hurting its self.


Bending rules for specific players seems like a WWEsque thing to do. They shouldn't bend the rules. The players should avoid these happenings. But shit like this happens. The rescheduling has already changed to allow for a +1 variance to help out with stuff like this. NASL is new for everyone including the players. I'm sure this will be a rare occuring after the first week
We talkin about PRACTICE
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
April 16 2011 20:06 GMT
#92
Wow, I was really looking forward to this match up. I wish NASL would work better to resolve these matches. Sucks that they do this to the most interesting matches
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
GP
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1056 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 20:09:51
April 16 2011 20:08 GMT
#93
This is getting ridiculous. I would rather see the games rescheduled to a later date and the games uncasted then this. These walkovers unbalance the group play and puts MC ahead of the players who do play but lose, it's ridiculous that players can get an edge without even playing.
coolcor
Profile Joined February 2011
520 Posts
April 16 2011 20:08 GMT
#94
let the players play anytime during the week and cast from replays. All scheduling problems are fixed.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 20:09:56
April 16 2011 20:09 GMT
#95
On April 17 2011 05:08 coolcor wrote:
let the players play anytime during the week and cast from replays. All scheduling problems are fixed.

They could even give these games to those youtube casters they were giving a game a week to or whatever if it can't otherwise fit into their schedule
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
April 16 2011 20:10 GMT
#96
sigh another free win. NASL fail.
Ksyper
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Bulgaria665 Posts
April 16 2011 20:11 GMT
#97
On April 17 2011 03:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 03:16 starcraft911 wrote:
I'm going to beat my cat SOOOOOOOO bad if MC gets a walkover... 3 days in a row the best matches don't happen. WTF is going on... I have to go find my cat...

Wtf

Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15689 Posts
April 16 2011 20:12 GMT
#98
On April 17 2011 05:05 mprs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 05:01 Mohdoo wrote:
I posted this in another thread that ended up being a duplicate, which is why it got locked, so posting here:

This is getting to be too much. NASL wants to maintain their integrity as an organization by being firm with this stuff, but they are accomplishing the opposite. By having 3 matches so far not even happen, they are really hurting their prestige.

So far, the following huge names haven't been able to play their matches:

Naniwa
July
WhiteRa
MC

These players in specific were quite the hype-creators. If the NASL doesn't bend its rules to accommodate a player in the event of this happening again, I'll be extremely disappointed. The NASL needs the players just as badly, if not MORE than the players need them. There are a lot of other tournaments going on with big names, so the NASL is really hurting its image compared to these other tournaments by missing out on these big names playing in their league. I know they have a tight schedule and that there are reasons this happened. But the NASL can change that. I bought my NASL ticket, and although Moon vs Grubby alone was able to make it worth it, I sure as hell expected a lot more.

I realize it is easy to play the blame game, but that isn't even the biggest issue here. It is in NASL's best interest to have all these super hyped games played. Even though players need to be more responsible, without these really hyped matches, the NASL is hurting its self.


Bending rules for specific players seems like a WWEsque thing to do. They shouldn't bend the rules. The players should avoid these happenings. But shit like this happens. The rescheduling has already changed to allow for a +1 variance to help out with stuff like this. NASL is new for everyone including the players. I'm sure this will be a rare occuring after the first week


Yeah, I know where you're coming from, and you're right. My point was simply that currently, there has been too high a % of really big matches that just didn't happen. Not to say it was a majority or anything, but too many of them. There is still the concern of having enough big awesome matches that are worth paying for. Those could have been some amazing series that inspired a lot more people to buy season tickets. Or they could have been games that kept some people interested and buying a season ticket again.

They need to be verrrrrrry careful at this point. Even if it isn't their fault, it is in their best interest to try to find some way to make this not happen so much. They have a lot to gain by having all these awesome matches actually happen.
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
April 16 2011 20:13 GMT
#99
What I don't get is NASL being absolutely adamant in needing to play every game right on time, resulting in things such as...Well, this week >.<

I get it. They have a tight broadcast schedule, and they can't reschedule easily. The problem is that these happenings due to NOT accounting for imperfect timing and unfortunate delays is the result of bad scheduling. The strictness seen so far is as ridiculous as if Day[9] decided to do a show every hour and a half.

NASL is too much about quantity rather than quality at this point. Rescheduling in a reasonable case is expected of nearly all large organizers. Things happening outside of their control is no excuse for what is in control (pun completely intended :D).
Greggor
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden119 Posts
April 16 2011 20:14 GMT
#100
Why cant they just delay the match and play it later, even if they cant cast it, it would be better then just doing a walkover. A walkover should be used if someone ignores the game intensionally, not when a flight is delayed. : /
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