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On April 17 2011 04:20 Darkren wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2011 03:59 TUski wrote:
Guys, it was a DELAYED PLANE.
...Again, it was a DELAYED PLANE.
Stop asking NASL to get their shit together. If they could control all facets of the world, then they could have stopped the DELAYED PLANE.
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It was a DELAYED PLANE.
Ur not getting it are u, Nasl knew he was coming back from a tournament and they put his match a couple hours after he got off the plane. So no the plane delay was not their fault, but it was their fault scheduling him that day, they could have schedualed him tomorrow and none of this would have happenned. This is their job, they are getting paid for this and we are paying a season ticket for what they told us we would receive.
You're actually arguing that it was NASL's fault for scheduling correctly? They cannot schedule games whenever they want, it has to work for every party. It seems like people are just looking for an excuse to insult the NASL. His PLANE WAS DELAYED, that's not something you can plan for.
Also they cannot schedule the game tomorrow, because the game WOULD HAVE been shown today.
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Are people just getting too spoiled with so many good tournaments being streamed that they can't cut any organization/tournament a break these days? There can't be a monumental match every night, and you can't always account for external circumstances... If one of the players broke their hand, I'm guessing people would be blaming NASL for that too? Relax people.
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Damn MC vs Brat_ok would of been an awesome series. I'm disappointed 
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On April 17 2011 04:20 Darkren wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2011 03:59 TUski wrote:
Guys, it was a DELAYED PLANE.
...Again, it was a DELAYED PLANE.
Stop asking NASL to get their shit together. If they could control all facets of the world, then they could have stopped the DELAYED PLANE.
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It was a DELAYED PLANE.
Ur not getting it are u, Nasl knew he was coming back from a tournament and they put his match a couple hours after he got off the plane. So no the plane delay was not their fault, but it was their fault scheduling him that day, they could have schedualed him tomorrow and none of this would have happenned. This is their job, they are getting paid for this and we are paying a season ticket for what they told us we would receive.
It's not NASL's responsibility to arrange the players' schedules, it's the players' and their managers' responsibility. NASL schedules all the games and tells the players when they should play, just like Gom does for the GSL and other leagues for their players. They can't be expected to rearrange their schedule all the time like this, at the last minute. They're already doing the best they can to work with tournaments like MLG but at a certain point players have to prioritize what leagues they play in. If DreamHack is that important to a player, then they will have to accept the freeloss as the price of playing it.
All that having been said, it seems like there could be a better solution to this than the no-loss walkover. Here's one idea - if the player informs NASL of a conflict with like a day or more left, then they dock that player one point in the standings and schedule the match for a "make-up" week at the end of the season. If the player informs NASL with less than a day left, the other player should get a normal walkover.
I don't like these walkovers with no losses. In all of these cases, the players knew that they had a match scheduled. In a league, it's your responsibility to play the match when it's scheduled, and if you miss your match you should lose. Not penalizing players for missing matches threatens to make the league seem like a pushover.
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At least when I'm disappointed with NASL it's not 4 a.m. lol
I wouldn't be surprised if they started casting from replays in another week or two if their best matches continue being canceled.
And I wouldn't mind that either 
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On April 17 2011 04:28 NKexquisite wrote:
Are people just getting too spoiled with so many good tournaments being streamed that they can't cut any organization/tournament a break these days? There can't be a monumental match every night, and you can't always account for external circumstances... If one of the players broke their hand, I'm guessing people would be blaming NASL for that too? Relax people.
It's not about being spoiled. Dreamhack and GSL have set the standard for what a top-tier tournament should look like. NASL doesn't come anywhere close yet they advertise themselves as the next biggest thing for E-sports in the West. They even want $25 for VODs. I know they put in a lot of effort and whatnot but it's just not up to par right now.
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*sighhhhh*.
I was really looking forward to this T_T
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another let down was looking forward to this!!!
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On April 17 2011 03:59 Hemula wrote:
This is so weird. The only matches I wanted to see were not played.
So I didnt watched any NASL game so far. Gj.
LOL same here
They really need to do something about it. I'm pretty sure that everyone prefer to see games postponed for 1-2 days or even 1-2 weeks rather than just WOs. Or let them play at any time and then cast from replays.
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On April 17 2011 04:27 S.O.L.I.D. wrote:
Also they cannot schedule the game tomorrow, because the game is being shown today.
Thats really the most stupid reason ever.
The game is obviously not shown today, because its a walkover.
I dont know if its in NASLs interest to have 3-4 games a night (or maybe even 2-3times a week) every week.
I understand they have principles. Ok. And in a case like naniwa was (with him being able to play physically) i understand a walkover. But not if things that you clearly cant influence like plane delays, or some other major LAN which you MUST attend because you cant just bank on nasl alone).
They must have a reason to not cast the whole thing live...tbh i dont care at all if its live, delayed live-vod (like now) or a replay cast (like tsl). But i want to see games.
but from a viewers perspective (and that should be the most important point for them), i dont care if the game is played on day x or day y. But i care that it is played _at all_.
Having 4 walkovers in the first 4 days clearly isnt something you'd like to advertise yourself with.
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oGsMC should invest in a gaming laptop so he can play his matches at the airport.
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This is why NASL needs to go to an all offline tournament located in California
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Look at how many walkovers NASL had in the first week. Now look at TSL. Obviously TSL model and organization are much better in a sense that it allows them to be more flexible with scheduling games.
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so many walkovers :o such a shame
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Don't be so hard on them. They are sticking to a schedule. They aren't being loosey goosey. There are rules. Follow them. Sorry his plane was delayed, they basically just erased him from the tournament because he couldn't make it.
This isn't a problem guys. NASL should continue accordingly. Players miss games. It happens.
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thats one of the only games i really would like to see from the nasl, what a downer
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To be honest, I think the NASL needs to be harder on players that miss games. Just yesterday, they've started allowing two days for players to play their games instead of just one. That's plenty of time for players to prepare and schedule for, especially when they know that it's going to be the same two days of the week every time. I can understand for the games up to now (the players only had one day), but from now on, I think NASL should start awarding losses to players that miss their games.
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let us not kid ourselves. MC is in no threat of not making the playoffs anyway so this is ultimately meaningless. he would've most likely destroyed bratok.
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On April 17 2011 04:38 Mattes wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2011 04:27 S.O.L.I.D. wrote:
Also they cannot schedule the game tomorrow, because the game is being shown today. Thats really the most stupid reason ever. The game is obviously not shown today, because its a walkover.
I thought people would be able to use common sense to understand what I meant, but I suppose I should have been more clear. The person I responded to said that the match could have been played tomorrow and I stated that this would be impossible because then HYPOTHETICALLY the game would be casted before it was actually played. The games for group 4 are being shown today, so if a game from that group were to be played tomorrow, it obviously wouldn't work out because the game has to actually be played before it's casted. Better?
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On April 17 2011 04:44 Frozne wrote:
Don't be so hard on them. They are sticking to a schedule. They aren't being loosey goosey. There are rules. Follow them. Sorry his plane was delayed, they basically just erased him from the tournament because he couldn't make it.
This isn't a problem guys. NASL should continue accordingly. Players miss games. It happens.
It obviously is a problem if there's so many people missing their matches. Having really strict scheduling when some guys have to play at 4 am etc is very hard on the players. Maybe they should consider some sort of "make up day" each week where they cast the games with scheduling conflicts. Possibly even off replays. Anything is better than just missing out on half the matches every week.
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