OGN/MBCGame vs Blizzard, Third Session - Page 3

On March 19 2011 10:59 hidiliho wrote:

A question regarding IP rights.

Does this mean that personal SC2 streams are owned by Blizzard too?

On March 19 2011 11:05 Jaeger wrote:
So are all of the people using justin.tv for streams and typing /commercial to make money between matches at risk for lawsuits?

On March 19 2011 09:06 fire_brand wrote:
I think if this was all about greed blizzard would be attacking other tournaments and shutting down online broadcasts of sc2. It seems that they are trying to ensure that there are no obstacles in place to control the growth for their esports scene.

If you guys remember Gretech/GOMTV used to run and broadcast very successful SCBW tournaments, but were basically shut down when Kespa/OGN/MBC banned players from attending these tournaments so their Esports monopoly in korea would remain intact.

It seems like a lot of what OGN/MBC is demanding is for the good of esports in korea, but we all know what they did in the past, so if I was blizzard I would probably take the same stance. Giving Kespa any controlling power over esports could be absolutely devastating.

On March 19 2011 10:37 Weedk wrote:


The problem with that is, it's not just about the money, as OGN was willing to pay already. It's more about the rights and how Blizzard wants 100% control, which is kind of ridiculous because under their rules, they would have control over teams and players.

On March 19 2011 11:13 aupstar wrote:


Do you seriously have a source for this?

You do realise that if kespa had banned players from GomTV Averatec-Intel Classic then you wouldn't have even had 1 season of it? Instead there was 3 (not counting special matches)!!!

The reality of the issue is that the teams decided to focus more on proleague and osl and msl. There was just not enough prestigue/viewers/time to practice for GomTV Averatec-Intel Classic. They also had bad korean commentators (or so I heard).

SKT was the first team to pull out at the end of GomTV avertech intel classic season 2 and then over time the rest of the teams followed. This is why bisu could not defend his season 2 crown in season 3. It didn't stop Flash from winning season 3 though.

On March 19 2011 11:14 agentheart wrote:



starcraft is currently under kespa's 100% control and they do control teams and players

On March 19 2011 11:18 emperorchampion wrote:


To this point, KeSPA did actually forbid anybody with a progaming license from participating in the GOM events. But you are also right that the quality of the tournament, and importance placed on it wasn't up to the OSL, MSL and PL.

Anyways, this all seems kinda pointless. Wouldn't it just have been easier/cheaper for the companies to just pay the fees that Blizzard was requesting? I guess I can see them not want to give anything, but still- I think they are going to lose something in the end, plus a costly court battle :/

As long as BW comes out at the end of the day...

On March 19 2011 11:05 Jaeger wrote:
So are all of the people using justin.tv for streams and typing /commercial to make money between matches at risk for lawsuits?

Q. So You guys are ok with YouTube channels and YouTube partners making money off your corporate content?

Are we? Can we stop them? Do we want to? I’m ok with it. And certainly lots of people around the world right now have jobs that are based on Starcraft. They make money out of it. But they also put a lot of work into it. They put a ton of effort into what they do. They certainly, from my perspective, they’ve earned the money. They contribute.

On March 19 2011 11:27 aupstar wrote:


This is after sc2 came out..blizzard started making crazy demands and used sc2 as a bargaining chip. I'm just tired of people saying that Kespa killed GomTV Averatec-Intel Classic.

On March 19 2011 11:25 nart wrote:
This case could be argued in many ways depending on your stance. You could argue "if you manufacture a shirt and I wear that shirt to a multimillion dollar party, and this party happens to be broadcasting on TV, you have no rights in asking shares from the TV station or the party host"; or you can compare video game with movie like Blizzard does. Either way, there's no clear solution for this case. It's just happened that the fact that Starcraft generate revenue due to being on TV. This is the difference between Starcraft and other games. I've seen video games being broadcast on TV many times which include CS and Halo, but not one court case occurred except this one. It's simply because of the amount of money involved when a game is broadcast on popular TV channels and Blizzard couldn't stand watching money being generated by this game. It all comes down to muuuuneyyyyy baby.

However due to this case, I'm seeing the anti-Blizzard in Korea by esport agencies and media companies. That's the reason Starcraft 2 has not reached its potential like BW. This is the reason the number of SC2 copies sold in Korea is much lower than that of NA or EU markets. Nothing comparable to the 50% of BW market in Korea.

Sad for esport. Sad for SC2.