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On February 25 2011 17:07 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 17:05 divito wrote:
Any way of getting that translated?
And I'm a little confused by saying WCG and Samsung separately...WCG doesn't exist without Samsung. WCG is a separate organization, it's just that Samsung Electronics is one of their main sponsors. WCG had a huge deficit during WCG 2010 in LA, so they've been downsizing and such, which is why they're hosting in Korea from what I can tell
It's not just one of their main sponsors, it is THE main sponsor. Hence why when I went last year, a huge section was dedicated to Samsung, and the Samsung logo being on practically everything. Honestly, if WCG BW doesn't have Korean reps, then... I can't imagine it, it's too sad. We wouldn't have games like FvJ game 2.
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On February 25 2011 16:55 BLinD-RawR wrote:
WTF?Seriously Samsung?Seriously?This whole shabang has to end on the 18th of March.
@udgnim please don't say current actions against BW....why are you starting a fight?
pretty sure I'm not starting a fight. I'm basically restating stuff said in the article.
if you're talking my statement about SC2 basically replacing BW everywhere except Korea, I'm pretty sure that's the truth. if WCG wants BW as part of its competitive games, then I wouldn't mind an all Korean tournament but that kind of goes against what WCG wants to achieve.
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On February 25 2011 17:10 Weedk wrote:
Honestly, if WCG BW doesn't have Korean reps, then... I can't imagine it, it's too sad. We wouldn't have games like FvJ game 2.
or Jaedong vs. Zim....
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On February 25 2011 17:07 Milkis wrote:
WCG is a separate organization, it's just that Samsung Electronics is one of their main sponsors.
WCG had a huge deficit during WCG 2010 in LA, so they've been downsizing and such, which is why they're hosting in Korea from what I can tell
It may be incorporated that way (as separate entities), but WCG only exists because Samsung uses them as a marketing arm. If Samsung were to ever pull out from putting their marketing dollars into WCG and supporting their operation, it'd be a lot harder to keep WCG afloat, if at all; it would take another company to put up a lot of capital into it for essentially nothing. Their commitment in certain countries has waned over the years because of that very reason.
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If any of the Blizzard games are excluded (I can live with WoW not being in though) the WCG will be horrible :-(. CS and QL might be interesting but what else?
Hope this doesn't grow any further than just a speculation, we need SC/SC2/WC3 at the WCG, else, imo, it's not a legit WCG.
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How many top foreigners are playing broodwar nowadays anyway ?
None ? 4?
Without koreans there is no need for BW ... I dont have any idea how many progamers are still playing WC3 though.
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On February 25 2011 17:20 Tufas wrote:
How many top foreigners are playing broodwar nowadays anyway ?
None ? 4?
Without koreans there is no need for BW ... I dont have any idea how many progamers are still playing WC3 though.
you sure aint getting the point in all of this ..
the place is asia where blizzard games practically rule WC3. BW. SC2. ..
samsung is the main sponsor of WCG
if its gonna be held in korea, then OGN/MBC will be covering it ..
but because of the IP rights case ..
blizzard just made a problem.
no game advertisement for the biggest international tournament on earth = bad thing for blizz (?) [IMO]
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Wow, sad news. I guess I wasn't expecting the IP issue to cause such far-reaching problems.
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Terrible, terrible news. What is WCG without Blizzard games?
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man this mess here too 
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On February 25 2011 17:26 Bleak wrote:
Terrible, terrible news. What is WCG without Blizzard games?
there is always need4speed .. and counter-strike
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On February 25 2011 17:22 aimaimaim wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 17:20 Tufas wrote:
How many top foreigners are playing broodwar nowadays anyway ?
None ? 4?
Without koreans there is no need for BW ... I dont have any idea how many progamers are still playing WC3 though. you sure aint getting the point in all of this .. the place is asia where blizzard games practically rule WC3. BW. SC2. .. samsung is the main sponsor of WCG if its gonna be held in korea, then OGN/MBC will be covering it .. but because of the IP rights case .. blizzard just made a problem.no game advertisement for the biggest international tournament on earth = bad thing for blizz (?) [IMO]
I do not fear for the multimillion fusion that is blizzard activision, I am more concerned about WCG that suck because no koreans play in SC/BW or WC3. If they are not going to be shown at all, I actually fear for the WCG. Because I sure am never going to watch it again.
But it seems they made red numbers ? Didnt know what .. well, do what you have to do :/
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I guess this will also include Guitar Hero too... It would seem inconsistent of them to allow other ActivisionBlizzard games.
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Well, I suppose this was expected, since enforcing IP rights out of a sudden from a 10 year old game will cause a lot of problems (since its still being played to this day). Its all speculation at this point, but Samsung could most definitely make WCG not include any Blizzard games.
I hope that it does not end this way. I don't particularly care about WCG all that much, but it would be a pity for a event like this come short because of a conflict of interest from corporations (or just outright protecting themselves from possibilities of being sued by Blizzard).
We shall see how this pans out.
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its just sad though...This IP rights case against the broadcasters(not BW) is seriously taking its toll.
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I expected this. They're in a tough situation. They're without a main sponsor if Samsung pulls out and they're without a lot of the competition if they exclude Blizzard games. WCG fails, or at least becomes less of an event, either way. Best case scenario is for this whole thing to get wrapped up before WCG 2011 starts it's process, unless another major corporation want's to step up and front the costs. (Intel? Microsoft? Blizzard? lol)
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Ummm... yeah just include the games without broadcasting it on MBC/OGN... problem solved. How about running it on aniBox?
This article makes samsung sound like a hard-headed enraged kespa leader but really? Maybe their hands are tied? I don't really see how, or any much reason to exclude blizz games.
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Blizzard still has GOM, NASL, and MLG at the very least off the top of my head. Is WCG ultimately really going to leave a mark on them? I know WCG used to be really big, but does it still carry the kind of weight it used to in the current competitive climate?
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On February 25 2011 17:40 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Blizzard still has GOM, NASL, and MLG at the very least off the top of my head. Is WCG ultimately really going to leave a mark on them? I know WCG used to be really big, but does it still carry the kind of weight it used to in the current competitive climate?
WCG is still one of the biggest events in the world even for Blizzard games.
not having it broadcasted is even worse as they make no money out of it and lose a lot more.I'm pretty sure Blizzard will let OGN broadcast without paying for licensing.
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On February 25 2011 17:40 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Blizzard still has GOM, NASL, and MLG at the very least off the top of my head. Is WCG ultimately really going to leave a mark on them? I know WCG used to be really big, but does it still carry the kind of weight it used to in the current competitive climate?
Whatever happens, this will most likely be WCG's last year anyhow. Their economy is in shambles after several very bad events from an economical standpoint.
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