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Bijan
Profile Joined October 2010
United States286 Posts
February 25 2011 08:49 GMT
#41
I'm getting so tired of caring about this lawsuit. I want this to be resolved, but the last few months have shown me that I can enjoy this sport regardless. I almost don't care what the outcome is anymore, just end this and we'll take whatever next steps are necessary.
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
February 25 2011 08:51 GMT
#42
On February 25 2011 17:42 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 17:40 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Blizzard still has GOM, NASL, and MLG at the very least off the top of my head. Is WCG ultimately really going to leave a mark on them? I know WCG used to be really big, but does it still carry the kind of weight it used to in the current competitive climate?


WCG is still one of the biggest events in the world even for Blizzard games.

not having it broadcasted is even worse as they make no money out of it and lose a lot more.I'm pretty sure Blizzard will let OGN broadcast without paying for licensing.


Well I can see it hurting Blizzard, but won't the WCG be hurt worse overall but not having those games? I mean, Blizzard is making a good deal of money already, and while they will lose potential profit off of WCG due to legal rights, wouldn't obtaining a favorable legal end to the dispute in combination with promoting and assisting the formation of the leagues I mentioned (as well as others) be more profitable in the long run?

Not only that, but negotiating the logistics and legalities of making this work without compromising their legal status seems to be more of a headache then it is worth. But like I have not been following the WCG very closely so I could be wrong, but I think in the long run, the WCG will bleed a lot worse then Blizzard due to this.
Avaloch
Profile Joined August 2010
241 Posts
February 25 2011 08:52 GMT
#43
On February 25 2011 17:29 arioch wrote:
I guess this will also include Guitar Hero too... It would seem inconsistent of them to allow other ActivisionBlizzard games.

Guitar Hero is an Activision game and besides, Activision already discontinued the series. Having people play it in a tournament is actually beneficial for the series failing sales.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
February 25 2011 08:53 GMT
#44
On February 25 2011 17:48 Eury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 17:40 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Blizzard still has GOM, NASL, and MLG at the very least off the top of my head. Is WCG ultimately really going to leave a mark on them? I know WCG used to be really big, but does it still carry the kind of weight it used to in the current competitive climate?


Whatever happens, this will most likely be WCG's last year anyhow. Their economy is in shambles after several very bad events from an economical standpoint.

What made the last few WCGs so much worse economically than the years before that?
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
February 25 2011 08:54 GMT
#45
This is so strange to me... In the sense that it's hard to imagine. But logically, I don't blame them for their thinking on this.
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SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
February 25 2011 08:55 GMT
#46
This is terrible, Terrible news ! i was SO looking forward to WCG this year with BW, SC2 and WC3

fuck this ruins my day, please win today in GSL moonglade =(
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
February 25 2011 08:56 GMT
#47
As far as I'm concerned, WCG can exclude Blizzard games and die of lack of interest. It's a crappy event anyway, badly organised and a sell-out advertisement event for shitty cellphone games and stuff. The idea of an annual olympics of gaming is nice, but the execution is terrible.
zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
February 25 2011 09:02 GMT
#48
All-foreigner broodwar wouldn't necessarily be that bad. I think wc3 also has a quite significant amount of highest level competition outside of korea?
"That's not gonna be good for business." "That's not gonna be good for anybody."
Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
February 25 2011 09:02 GMT
#49
hell, I don't think it would be that bad if there were no korean full time progamers, they always send overkill and usually gets to be a korea vs korea final. Wouldn't it be nice for a non-korean to win a WCG in BW just a few more times?

2000-2010 SC:BW Winners all South Korean
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* GoRush (South Korea) (Z) over I.LOVE_STAR (South Korea) (2000)
* BoxeR (South Korea) (T) over ElkY (France) (2001)
* BoxeR (South Korea) (T) over YellOw (South Korea) (2002)
* Ogogo (South Korea) (Z) over FiSheYe (Germany) (2003)
* XellOs (South Korea) (T) over Midas (South Korea) (2004)
* fOru (South Korea) (P) over Androide (Russia) (2005)
* iloveoov (South Korea) (T) over JulyZerg (South Korea) (2006)
* Stork (South Korea) (P) over PJ (China) (2007)
* Luxury (South Korea) (Z) over Stork (South Korea) (2008)
* Jaedong (South Korea) (Z) over Stork (South Korea) (2009)
* Flash (South Korea) (T) over Kal (South Korea) (2010)

But I would LOVE it if Kespa and Blizz solve their differences and help BW and SC2 can grow even stronger.
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Godstorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania845 Posts
February 25 2011 09:04 GMT
#50
Wait run wcg without korean representatives? That means the bw tournament is pretty much useless. Not to mention all the top foreign players moved on to sc2 so a bw tournament would have really bad games. War3 i think could work without korea, there are plenty of good top foreign players there and sc2, while not having the best players, will still have awesome foreign players. Hopefully this gets resolved .
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biskit
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia355 Posts
February 25 2011 09:06 GMT
#51
Well if there's no Blizzard game, then I don't have to watch WCG.
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
February 25 2011 09:08 GMT
#52
Sad news indeed
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bmg4ever
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany74 Posts
February 25 2011 09:13 GMT
#53
On February 25 2011 17:51 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
But like I have not been following the WCG very closely so I could be wrong, but I think in the long run, the WCG will bleed a lot worse then Blizzard due to this.


exactly this.
not adding the currently most watched, most important and newest esports title (to promote gaming hardware suitable) will not just directly affect their viewer count massively but also hurt their reputation as the olympic games for esports.

then wcg will be just another cs only tournament, cause the amout of people caring about the other titles is insignificant.
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-25 09:18:28
February 25 2011 09:15 GMT
#54
Lol. I expect that blizzard games would have made up ~3 of the 4 most popular games this year.

edit: typo
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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
February 25 2011 09:16 GMT
#55
On February 25 2011 17:22 aimaimaim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 17:20 Tufas wrote:
How many top foreigners are playing broodwar nowadays anyway ?
None ? 4?

Without koreans there is no need for BW ... I dont have any idea how many progamers are still playing WC3 though.


you sure aint getting the point in all of this ..

the place is asia where blizzard games practically rule WC3. BW. SC2. ..

samsung is the main sponsor of WCG
if its gonna be held in korea, then OGN/MBC will be covering it ..

but because of the IP rights case ..

blizzard just made a problem.

no game advertisement for the biggest international tournament on earth = bad thing for blizz (?) [IMO]



Thank you for seeing the light. I was getting worried that everyone was like "BOO THAT SAMSUNG" without seeing what this whole IP rights bull is causing.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
February 25 2011 09:17 GMT
#56
lol wow if there's no blizzard games that means WCG is going to be a terrible event and will probably just be a waste of time hosting one in general.

This will be interesting I'll be sad if there's no sc2/bw in this years wcg
When I think of something else, something will go here
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
February 25 2011 09:21 GMT
#57
On February 25 2011 17:22 aimaimaim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 17:20 Tufas wrote:
How many top foreigners are playing broodwar nowadays anyway ?
None ? 4?

Without koreans there is no need for BW ... I dont have any idea how many progamers are still playing WC3 though.


you sure aint getting the point in all of this ..

the place is asia where blizzard games practically rule WC3. BW. SC2. ..

samsung is the main sponsor of WCG
if its gonna be held in korea, then OGN/MBC will be covering it ..

but because of the IP rights case ..

blizzard just made a problem.

no game advertisement for the biggest international tournament on earth = bad thing for blizz (?) [IMO]


Blizzard needs game advertisement? That is the real news...
We talkin about PRACTICE
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-25 09:28:29
February 25 2011 09:25 GMT
#58
Blizzard filed the lawsuit because KESPA and other organizations were refusing to recognize their property rights. In other words, in the mind of Blizzard, they were stealing.

If I made this hugely popular game, and an organization decided to host tournaments, put it on T.V., and make money off the game without consulting me, asking for permission to use the game to earn money, or even recognizing that the game belongs to me, I'd be pissed and probably sue too.

Blizzard actually tried, for years, to convince KESPA to recognize their property rights without filing a lawsuit. KESPA refused, and has continued to earn a profit off of Blizzard's game. Just to be clear: Blizzard tried to settle the issue without a lawsuit.

KESPA is basically a money grubbing organization that has no respect for the players (tons of reports of this), no respect for the games themselves and the game developers, and no respect for ESPORTS in general based on their wanton refusals.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
ScrubS
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands436 Posts
February 25 2011 09:25 GMT
#59
WTF this is insane, we should boycot the shit out of WCG if they do this :S
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
February 25 2011 09:28 GMT
#60
Wow huge news.. disappointed in Samsung.

Looks like WCG is gonna die out this year, MLG,NASL, and IEM on the rise.
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