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nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
January 29 2011 02:44 GMT
#161
On January 29 2011 11:28 TrainSamurai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2011 11:17 StimedPylon wrote:
KeSPA: Switch to SC2 and we ban you.


Here you go:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=187242
Read that and tell us what you think.


that's cuz stimedpylon heard some lies from other ppl that seemed too horrible to be true...but went with them anyways...
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TrainSamurai
Profile Joined November 2010
339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 02:53:38
January 29 2011 02:49 GMT
#162
On January 29 2011 11:35 StimedPylon wrote:
Show nested quote +

Here you go:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=187242
Read that and tell us what you think.


Obviously he never played SC2 professionally on a team, note the "had to intention to switch to SC2".
Did you even read the whole article?


He was in the GSL qualifiers... you know the big one for sc2?

On January 29 2011 11:44 nalgene wrote:
that's cuz stimedpylon heard some lies from other ppl that seemed too horrible to be true...but went with them anyways...


A lot of people will believe anything... even going as far as to believe the claims made by TL's brigade of self proclaimed law students.
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neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
January 29 2011 03:03 GMT
#163
Third trial actually happens on my birthday =(.
kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 03:11:18
January 29 2011 03:10 GMT
#164
Lol it's clear that the judge only cares about IP right but Blizz put a ton of "weird" stuffs into the matter that are not IP right related at all.

At this rate I can see the result already, Blizz will get the money for IP right but they will have no control over tournaments, players and cannot apply any "weird" condition to MBC/OGN/Kespa.

Khassar de Templari
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3304 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 03:21:40
January 29 2011 03:20 GMT
#165
this just shows how shitty of a company Blizz/Acti are. Valve never demanded anything for 10 years of pro CS 1.6. When source came out, despite the big 1.6vs source talk, the tourneys went parallel. for years. and valve didnt act on anything.

btw: cs has lan. and it prob made more sales money than sc2.
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3304 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 03:25:55
January 29 2011 03:25 GMT
#166
On January 29 2011 12:10 kamikami wrote:
Lol it's clear that the judge only cares about IP right but Blizz put a ton of "weird" stuffs into the matter that are not IP right related at all.

At this rate I can see the result already, Blizz will get the money for IP right but they will have no control over tournaments, players and cannot apply any "weird" condition to MBC/OGN/Kespa.



i kinda disagree here.
blizz ip quest goes over transmission of bw over the last years. if they get away with it its because they have rights over the transmissions. if they have rights over the transmission u either a) give them control of the tours (or wtv weird conditions they come with). b) livestream and make 0 profit out of it
aru
Profile Joined April 2010
183 Posts
January 29 2011 03:34 GMT
#167
On January 29 2011 11:35 StimedPylon wrote:
Show nested quote +

Here you go:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=187242
Read that and tell us what you think.


Obviously he never played SC2 professionally on a team, note the "had to intention to switch to SC2".
Did you even read the whole article?


He was on Startale.
GoodRamen
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States713 Posts
January 29 2011 03:35 GMT
#168
On January 29 2011 11:35 StimedPylon wrote:
Show nested quote +

Here you go:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=187242
Read that and tell us what you think.


Obviously he never played SC2 professionally on a team, note the "had to intention to switch to SC2".
Did you even read the whole article?


I thought he was in startales...
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kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
January 29 2011 03:45 GMT
#169
On January 29 2011 12:25 misirlou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2011 12:10 kamikami wrote:
Lol it's clear that the judge only cares about IP right but Blizz put a ton of "weird" stuffs into the matter that are not IP right related at all.

At this rate I can see the result already, Blizz will get the money for IP right but they will have no control over tournaments, players and cannot apply any "weird" condition to MBC/OGN/Kespa.



i kinda disagree here.
blizz ip quest goes over transmission of bw over the last years. if they get away with it its because they have rights over the transmissions. if they have rights over the transmission u either a) give them control of the tours (or wtv weird conditions they come with). b) livestream and make 0 profit out of it


No they won't get away with it, that's why they will "only" have the money and nothing more.
Khassar de Templari
waxypants
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States479 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 03:50:11
January 29 2011 03:49 GMT
#170
Damages my ass....without these TV stations broadcasting the game "illegally", the StarCraft name would be nothing today. No GSL either.
Inside.Out
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada569 Posts
January 29 2011 03:54 GMT
#171
wow pretty interesting and intense. i wonder what the judge is thinking about these guys squabbling over who has the right to play a video game. then again it is in korea.
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1170 Posts
January 29 2011 03:56 GMT
#172
Poor Milkis getting critiqued about his abilties as translator, I'd go as far as to say scion was insulting his intelligence - Milkis even wrote a guide to translating citing the differences between sources and what to look out for.

Zona put it very well too, after 9 pages of discussion there is no doubt in my mind that there was foul play intended here.
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palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
January 29 2011 04:05 GMT
#173
On January 29 2011 10:00 Tirr wrote:
I so hope that Blizz will win the case and make Korea switch to SC2. SCBW is just old and boring (imho).

User was warned for this post


The funny thing is that the majority in Korea thinks the opposite about these games.
StimedPylon
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom29 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 04:09:36
January 29 2011 04:08 GMT
#174
On January 29 2011 12:49 waxypants wrote:
Damages my ass....without these TV stations broadcasting the game "illegally", the StarCraft name would be nothing today. No GSL either.


Blizz only started getting involved after KeSPA started selling the broadcasting rights to these stations. That's when it became illegal.
Also, seeing as 80% of the SC1 and BW sales were made before 2001, OGN/MBCGame have little to do with it's popularity outside Korea since e-sports is a very small and niche market.
You also forgot the countless illegal servers for BW that are still up and running in and outside Korea.

Blizz should have this in the bag as far as law is concerned.
palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
January 29 2011 04:11 GMT
#175
On January 29 2011 13:08 StimedPylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2011 12:49 waxypants wrote:
Damages my ass....without these TV stations broadcasting the game "illegally", the StarCraft name would be nothing today. No GSL either.


Blizz only started getting involved after KeSPA started selling the broadcasting rights to these stations. That's when it became illegal.
Also, seeing as 80% of the SC1 and BW sales were made before 2001, OGN/MBCGame have little to do with it's popularity outside Korea since e-sports is a very small and niche market.
You also forgot the countless illegal servers for BW that are still up and running in and outside Korea.

Blizz should have this in the bag as far as law is concerned.


Your three posts so far are gold, lol
StimedPylon
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom29 Posts
January 29 2011 04:20 GMT
#176
Your three posts so far are gold, lol


Excellent counter argument there.
Counting post counts instead of facts? Is this the 5rd grade?
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4505 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 04:22:39
January 29 2011 04:22 GMT
#177
On January 29 2011 13:20 StimedPylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
Your three posts so far are gold, lol


Excellent counter argument there.
Counting post counts instead of facts? Is this the 5rd grade?

I thought the fact that you've ignored the counterevidence for your conspiracy theories was funny as well.
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doubleupgradeobbies!
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1326 Posts
January 29 2011 04:29 GMT
#178
On January 29 2011 13:08 StimedPylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2011 12:49 waxypants wrote:
Damages my ass....without these TV stations broadcasting the game "illegally", the StarCraft name would be nothing today. No GSL either.


Blizz only started getting involved after KeSPA started selling the broadcasting rights to these stations. That's when it became illegal.
Also, seeing as 80% of the SC1 and BW sales were made before 2001, OGN/MBCGame have little to do with it's popularity outside Korea since e-sports is a very small and niche market.
You also forgot the countless illegal servers for BW that are still up and running in and outside Korea.

Blizz should have this in the bag as far as law is concerned.


lol ok since you complained that people are not talking about your ridiculous arguments i'll bite.

Not one of your arguments even makes sense


Blizz only started getting involved after KeSPA started selling the broadcasting rights to these stations. That's when it became illegal.


Right, so this justifies blizzard sueing MBC because? Unless i am grossly misinformed MBC wasn't selling the broadcast rights to itself. If this is Blizzards reasoning, they would be sueing Kespa, and has no bearing on the current court case.


Also, seeing as 80% of the SC1 and BW sales were made before 2001, OGN/MBCGame have little to do with it's popularity outside Korea since e-sports is a very small and niche market.


Yes given almost half the copies of bw sold ever were in korea, clearly the foreigner market is the only one that matters right?


You also forgot the countless illegal servers for BW that are still up and running in and outside Korea.


Yes, and this is, again, relevant to the case against MBC how? MBC isn't running these servers, let alone profiting off them.

You also forgot about the Somali Pirates who hijack ships, who are equally irrelevant to the current case. Or any number of people in the world involved in illegal activity who are likewise not relevant to the case at hand.
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StimedPylon
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom29 Posts
January 29 2011 04:37 GMT
#179
On January 29 2011 13:22 mustaju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2011 13:20 StimedPylon wrote:
Your three posts so far are gold, lol


Excellent counter argument there.
Counting post counts instead of facts? Is this the 5rd grade?

I thought the fact that you've ignored the counterevidence for your conspiracy theories was funny as well.


Almost as funny as the fact that there seems to be more foreigners supporting KeSPA than there are Koreans.
After all the retarded shit KeSPA pulled all these years, they get no second guess chances from me. Kind of sad to see the last years of BW full of soo much pointless conflict and cock waving on both sides.
nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 04:46:22
January 29 2011 04:42 GMT
#180
part of the money they gained from SC1 goes towards funding for WoW ( Level 60 Cap version ) before it was released ( it's only 5% of their total income post WoW release though... ) and that movie for funding the creation of another game certainly helps...

money back then is worth more than money now ( inflation/usury/"quantitative easing" aka printing more money will make it worth less )
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