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[Trans] ESPORTS: It's not just for men - Page 3

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netherDrake
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Singapore1831 Posts
January 04 2011 16:02 GMT
#41
Perhaps Tossgirl should consider breaking contract and switching to SC2.. it's really hard for her in BW to catch up right now
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Azriel
Profile Joined December 2010
Mexico462 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-04 16:30:09
January 04 2011 16:26 GMT
#42
On January 05 2011 01:02 netherDrake wrote:
Perhaps Tossgirl should consider breaking contract and switching to SC2.. it's really hard for her in BW to catch up right now

They should just let Tossgirl prove herself again in live games. I imagine she can't do worse in a game than say... Juni or Canata.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
January 04 2011 16:42 GMT
#43
Tossgirl should have been allowed to play in the STX cup. It's for teams to give B-teamers a chance anyway. That would have made up for the fiasco of removing players from the bench.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
January 04 2011 17:25 GMT
#44
On January 04 2011 14:45 Crunchums wrote:
it's good to see that they're not complaining about sexism (at least so far), rather they are just saying that having no Y chromosome is bad for a career in esports

They aren't complaining much about sexism because it's not part of the Korean culture to consider this. Gender roles are much more conservative and traditional in Korea, and it's a little depressing to see that they are still so heavily boxed into these roles that they are otherwise overwhelmed by the thought of "growing up, having to get married, having to give birth, and then having to devote all time to the child" and such.

Obviously this is a major difference in perception and they don't see this as unusual thinking at all, but it's clearly shoehorned gender roles like this that result in major disparities.
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ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
January 04 2011 18:56 GMT
#45
On January 05 2011 01:26 Amaranthine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2011 01:02 netherDrake wrote:
Perhaps Tossgirl should consider breaking contract and switching to SC2.. it's really hard for her in BW to catch up right now

They should just let Tossgirl prove herself again in live games. I imagine she can't do worse in a game than say... Juni or Canata.

Tossgirl is probably just not good enough even compared to these players. It's easy to forget that players around the top end of the B-team are actually really good players, and I can imagine the gap between Canata and the worst B-teamers being pretty large. Looking at Tossgirls performance in the prelims, she's probably in the bottom 3 in the STX lineup, maybe even the worst, and if you take age into consideration she's definately the worst investment in the team. I don't think the coach would be very popular if he let Tossgirl play, only because she's a girl (which is basically the only reason to play her unless she have improved drastically). I also hope she'll get to play eventually, but she'll have to earn it first. Unfortunately I don't think it will ever happen, since she's had a ideal practice environment for years now, and still not reached the A-team.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
January 04 2011 19:32 GMT
#46
On January 05 2011 02:25 tedster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2011 14:45 Crunchums wrote:
it's good to see that they're not complaining about sexism (at least so far), rather they are just saying that having no Y chromosome is bad for a career in esports

They aren't complaining much about sexism because it's not part of the Korean culture to consider this. Gender roles are much more conservative and traditional in Korea, and it's a little depressing to see that they are still so heavily boxed into these roles that they are otherwise overwhelmed by the thought of "growing up, having to get married, having to give birth, and then having to devote all time to the child" and such.

Obviously this is a major difference in perception and they don't see this as unusual thinking at all, but it's clearly shoehorned gender roles like this that result in major disparities.


This was going through my head non-stop while reading this article... especially when one of them said this...

Seo Ji-Soo: Being a progamer, it was disappointing for me to lack stamina and emotion control. Since I lack physical stamina, I can't practice for long hours. Then the skill gap becomes bigger, and I start to lose games. I have the desire to win and compete, but I can't control my emotions since I lose all the time. After losing so many games, I become depressed and wonder if this is really worth doing anymore. I have to deal with these emotions myself, so it becomes very difficult at times.

A woman in the US would never admit to such weaknesses (Disclaimer: If they exist)
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Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-04 20:56:41
January 04 2011 20:48 GMT
#47
On January 04 2011 15:36 [Azn]Nada wrote:
was I the only one who saw the title and thought this was going to be an argument that BW was a culture, not Blizzard's (One Man's) possession?


Same.

Very interesting article! Can't wait for the rest. Never really thought about the female perspective of the industry.

Tx for translation.
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SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
January 04 2011 21:15 GMT
#48
On January 04 2011 17:48 CanucksJC wrote:
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On January 04 2011 17:17 FlowerbedOfDreams wrote:
[image loading]
Kang Min? About this big, why do you ask?

[image loading]
Just wondering.


HAHAHAHAHA :D
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hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
January 04 2011 21:45 GMT
#49
If you are still considering translating the rest, please do. I found out yesterday that the topic for my english class this semester is "gender in popular culture" and I was going to do mine on Tossgirl+january+ the female leauge. Then this came up the same day and I was like OMG WHAT LUCK!!!!!
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
CanucksJC
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1241 Posts
January 04 2011 21:55 GMT
#50
On January 05 2011 06:45 hacklebeast wrote:
If you are still considering translating the rest, please do. I found out yesterday that the topic for my english class this semester is "gender in popular culture" and I was going to do mine on Tossgirl+january+ the female leauge. Then this came up the same day and I was like OMG WHAT LUCK!!!!!

LOL i will work on it later tonite before GSL starts
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 04 2011 22:18 GMT
#51
About the female casters , now that I think about it, I don't ever see female casters at any sports really, except gymnastics and sometimes swimming. Hockey, Football/soccer is all done by male casters, perhaps in general males are more interested in these sports ofcourse but I'm still curious why the amount of female casters is low overall, not just at BW
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hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
January 04 2011 22:25 GMT
#52
On January 05 2011 06:55 CanucksJC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2011 06:45 hacklebeast wrote:
If you are still considering translating the rest, please do. I found out yesterday that the topic for my english class this semester is "gender in popular culture" and I was going to do mine on Tossgirl+january+ the female leauge. Then this came up the same day and I was like OMG WHAT LUCK!!!!!

LOL i will work on it later tonite before GSL starts


Thanks a lot.

And If you ever need something translated from german that was written at a 5th grade reading level, I've got you covered.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
zenMaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada761 Posts
January 04 2011 22:30 GMT
#53
Male voices don't destroy my ear drums when they shout GEEEEE GEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!~~
blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-04 22:42:59
January 04 2011 22:42 GMT
#54
I thought that this was referring to the Gretech/Blizzard vs. KeSPA issue, but this was interesting to read as well.
Hearing the female opinions and struggles in progaming, either a player or a coach, is something that had me wondering for a time. I always wondered about Tossgirl's gaming career, and now I know for sure that she's serious about it. Also, is January pregnant, or is she considering having a child? o_O
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CanucksJC
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1241 Posts
January 04 2011 23:31 GMT
#55
updated 2/3
UBC StarCraft Club is official @ UBC Vancouver campus! Your first eSport community on campus. Welcomes players of all levels at UBC. Follow us on facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/group.php?gid=155630424470014 or IRC @ irc.rizon.net #ubcsc
Renkaoru
Profile Joined October 2010
390 Posts
January 04 2011 23:45 GMT
#56
Yay thanks alot man. It's quite long but a really nice read. Your effort is appreciated.

Damn Tossgirl is cute. I wonder why, with all the gimmicks STX is doing, they don't think of sending Tossgirl out in Proleague. Fans would go nuts.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-05 00:04:41
January 05 2011 00:02 GMT
#57
[image loading]
MBC Game Hero Plus' coach Lim Soo-Ra.


ah, so this is where effort went after retiring from CJ, i'm diggin his new look. awesome wig.

did the MBC zergs get better this round after he coached them?
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GoodRamen
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States713 Posts
January 05 2011 00:08 GMT
#58
On January 05 2011 09:02 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
[image loading]
MBC Game Hero Plus' coach Lim Soo-Ra.


ah, so this is where effort went after retiring from CJ, i'm diggin his new look. awesome wig.

did the MBC zergs get better this round after he coached them?


lol i just started to see the resemblance
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Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
January 05 2011 00:12 GMT
#59
OH GOD.... dammit.. you guys completely ruined Lim Soo-Ra for me. game over.

Props to Canuck for posting this eh?!
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
January 05 2011 00:16 GMT
#60
On January 05 2011 09:02 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
[image loading]
MBC Game Hero Plus' coach Lim Soo-Ra.


ah, so this is where effort went after retiring from CJ, i'm diggin his new look. awesome wig.

did the MBC zergs get better this round after he coached them?

Damn... At first I thought what a familiar cute face.

Then reading your post I can't stop but think about Effort now loool.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
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