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On January 06 2011 02:24 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2011 21:37 CanucksJC wrote:On January 05 2011 21:02 Dectilon wrote:
If you lack stamina, start going to the gym or something. Nine times out of ten fatigue from long periods of focus (like studying) can be averted by getting more oxygen to your brain. And stronger muscles gives better hand precision to an extent.
It's clear that South Korea has a ways to go on the equality issue. Not only on the political side, but on the social side too if someone makes that excuse seriously. I've heard some really dumb statements about why there are way more men in e-sports than women (I think the most retarded I've heard was that "men have a natural hunting instinct"), and the idea that it would be because women "lack stamina" is one of them.
As for mean comments, I think most of everyone would prefer not to be called names. But this is the internet, and that shit isn't going away. I don't think being susceptible to bullying is a female trait either. If you're bullied and you don't feel you get support from your peers then it'll hurt more regardless of what the situation otherwise is. Of course, people react differently to abuse, but saying it's gender-specific rather than societal is wrong.
I'm sure most of everyone here would like to see women make it into the best leagues on their own ability, and I don't think anyone seriously believes that's impossible by any means.
Women do lack stamina. Look at every other sport and tell me in which one a woman holds a record over a man. Swimming, running, jumping, soccer, hockey, basketball. Men are clearly superior. uh, no. Men are superior in sports because we have more muscle mass and we don't have mammaries and ovaries, which in terms of physical activity are useless organs that throw off our center of gravity. It has nothing directly to do with stamina, although having those useless organs obviously puts more stress on your body, ie you get tired fast. Women can easily overcome this by simply working out a harder, but at the world class level men will always win.
I think the point he made still stands Tossgirl commented on how her physiology makes her less able to practice > 10 hours a day. less practice she gets the worse she is -> the worse she is the more she loses -> the more she loses the ore she cries.
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The caster is older than Khans manager!
No way..
Tx for translation again!
Edit: nvm misread
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Very interesting read and insight in the culture of South Korea and where women are compared to men and the norms and so on. Great to see these women actually keep fighting as they'll eventually be role models for upcoming female casters and new coaches in this man dominated scene. What sadens me is that they're not really supposed to go with they guys out and have a drink as that is very common in the western world :/. I hope we'll see a new generation of upcoming pro gamer girls but in SC2 as the influence tossgirl has had.
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edit: making Community News is one of the best changes that happened to TL
imagine this being buried in the BW forum
Thank you for translating!
I don't know every detail, but I think they're just fighting for their pride, because the opposite side crossed their line of property. In my opinion, they just have a unique way of communicating.
This made me laugh out loud and maybe this describes the situation the best.
BTW I saw on the internet a graph of Korean women in employment when compared to other countries and IIRC it claimed South Korea is or was behind countries like Afghanistan with not much more than 70%.
Damn why can't I find this article now.
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On January 04 2011 14:59 lastkarrde wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ePLim.jpg) Kim Ga-Eul so Beautiful!
i never thought of her as ugly before but...
she looks like a man in that picture
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On January 06 2011 01:40 MageKirby wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2011 21:45 Ryo wrote:
"In comparison, I don't think there is that big of a skill gap between Jaedong and the winner of a local PC bang tournament." (Jung So Lim)
Does she play starcraft? Who the fk was playing in that local PC bang touney? Effort? lol Srsly, I dont buy it.
I dont get it either, and Im trying hard. I guess she is first seeing the huge difference between a footballplayerat MU and the normal hobby player, but the difference between jaedong and a normal hobby SC player, is not huge?
I guess the picture with her showing how much weed she has in her bag is true, must be good shit to say something this stupid. Female or male, you should always think twice before removing all doubt that you are stupid.
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On January 06 2011 08:45 Brett wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2011 06:11 Crunchums wrote:If there was a difference, sports players have far more skill than the normal person, but e-sports progamers don't have that big of a skill gap between the general public. As an example, if you compared the skills of Park Ji-Sung from Manchester United and some player from beer league, the skill gap is huge. In comparison, I don't think there is that big of a skill gap between Jaedong and the winner of a local PC bang tournament. ewwwwwwwwww gross YES! WTF? I was reading the interviews and when she said that I was absolutely fucking stunned.... How ridiculous... Especially from HER.
huh? please tell me shes not commentating BW... If she is she should be immediately fired imo... disgusting T_T
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On January 06 2011 18:50 diehilde wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2011 08:45 Brett wrote:On January 06 2011 06:11 Crunchums wrote:If there was a difference, sports players have far more skill than the normal person, but e-sports progamers don't have that big of a skill gap between the general public. As an example, if you compared the skills of Park Ji-Sung from Manchester United and some player from beer league, the skill gap is huge. In comparison, I don't think there is that big of a skill gap between Jaedong and the winner of a local PC bang tournament. ewwwwwwwwww gross YES! WTF? I was reading the interviews and when she said that I was absolutely fucking stunned.... How ridiculous... Especially from HER. huh? please tell me shes not commentating BW... If she is she should be immediately fired imo... disgusting T_T
OGN's caster Jung So-Lim said this.
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On January 06 2011 19:46 crappen wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2011 18:50 diehilde wrote:On January 06 2011 08:45 Brett wrote:On January 06 2011 06:11 Crunchums wrote:If there was a difference, sports players have far more skill than the normal person, but e-sports progamers don't have that big of a skill gap between the general public. As an example, if you compared the skills of Park Ji-Sung from Manchester United and some player from beer league, the skill gap is huge. In comparison, I don't think there is that big of a skill gap between Jaedong and the winner of a local PC bang tournament. ewwwwwwwwww gross YES! WTF? I was reading the interviews and when she said that I was absolutely fucking stunned.... How ridiculous... Especially from HER. huh? please tell me shes not commentating BW... If she is she should be immediately fired imo... disgusting T_T OGN's caster Jung So-Lim said this.
she's the one with the really retardedly annoying voice
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Jung So-Lim: My voice can't hold it whenever I try to increase my volume during moments of climax.
rofl
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On January 06 2011 19:48 ArvickHero wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2011 19:46 crappen wrote:On January 06 2011 18:50 diehilde wrote:On January 06 2011 08:45 Brett wrote:On January 06 2011 06:11 Crunchums wrote:If there was a difference, sports players have far more skill than the normal person, but e-sports progamers don't have that big of a skill gap between the general public. As an example, if you compared the skills of Park Ji-Sung from Manchester United and some player from beer league, the skill gap is huge. In comparison, I don't think there is that big of a skill gap between Jaedong and the winner of a local PC bang tournament. ewwwwwwwwww gross YES! WTF? I was reading the interviews and when she said that I was absolutely fucking stunned.... How ridiculous... Especially from HER. huh? please tell me shes not commentating BW... If she is she should be immediately fired imo... disgusting T_T OGN's caster Jung So-Lim said this. she's the one with the really retardedly annoying voice
What I dont understand, is why she have the job? Is it only cause she is female? If that is the case, I can understand their frustration in that they dont feel cut for the job, but got it anyway cause of being female. Cant be fun having a job you dont know exactly why. Wish people could just be straight with them.
Either tell them as it is, that their role is to only be "middleman" in the commentating, that they are not suppose to show off climax voice casting, or saying smart things.
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I liked this article, thanks for translating this. Tossgirl still looks great in photographs. Maybe she should try go in to the coaching path or even SC2 and become a pioneer there.
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Cool interview. It would be harder to play SC2 as a woman though, because they're never on time.
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Yeah that Jaedong comparison was stupid. In fact, the two things are very similar if you discount the possibility that you can't ever be a successful soccer player if you have bad physique.
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Does anyone know if Seo Ji-Soo is by chance related to Seo Ki-Soo (Tester/TSL_sSKS)?
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OGN's caster Jung So-Lim, MBC Game Special Forces coach Lim Soo-Ra.
yummy
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On January 06 2011 23:04 x_Faust wrote:
Cool interview. It would be harder to play SC2 as a woman though, because they're never on time.
...and that they'll whine about imbalance forever.
jokes! :D
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Thanks for doing this. I am a Sociologist and, as such, am often interested in feminist studies and this article has been really insightful.
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