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[Trans] ESPORTS: It's not just for men - Page 6

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thehitman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1105 Posts
January 05 2011 10:46 GMT
#101
nice article and the girls are all beautiful and soo-ra is so sexy and no I'm not a sexist just saying the facts.
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
January 05 2011 11:33 GMT
#102
On January 05 2011 18:44 FindingPride wrote:
who is kang min?


(P)Nal_rA
Dectilon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden50 Posts
January 05 2011 12:02 GMT
#103
If you lack stamina, start going to the gym or something. Nine times out of ten fatigue from long periods of focus (like studying) can be averted by getting more oxygen to your brain. And stronger muscles gives better hand precision to an extent.

It's clear that South Korea has a ways to go on the equality issue. Not only on the political side, but on the social side too if someone makes that excuse seriously. I've heard some really dumb statements about why there are way more men in e-sports than women (I think the most retarded I've heard was that "men have a natural hunting instinct"), and the idea that it would be because women "lack stamina" is one of them.

As for mean comments, I think most of everyone would prefer not to be called names. But this is the internet, and that shit isn't going away. I don't think being susceptible to bullying is a female trait either. If you're bullied and you don't feel you get support from your peers then it'll hurt more regardless of what the situation otherwise is. Of course, people react differently to abuse, but saying it's gender-specific rather than societal is wrong.

I'm sure most of everyone here would like to see women make it into the best leagues on their own ability, and I don't think anyone seriously believes that's impossible by any means.
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
January 05 2011 12:15 GMT
#104
Good article. It's too bad not more women take interest in E-sports, and gaming in general.
I think female players could do VERY well, as I've heard (somewhere from the militay I think) that they deal with stressful situations much better than men, and dealing with stressful situations might be enough to get you into the GSL, if you're a good player to begin with. It seperates good from great I believe

I havn't heard much of the korean commentators, but being a female commentator in general must be very hard, as they imho tend to sound more irritating when yelling.. but then again I guess I'm just not a big fan of high pitched voices when watching a game of starcraft ^^
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
CanucksJC
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1241 Posts
January 05 2011 12:37 GMT
#105
On January 05 2011 21:02 Dectilon wrote:
If you lack stamina, start going to the gym or something. Nine times out of ten fatigue from long periods of focus (like studying) can be averted by getting more oxygen to your brain. And stronger muscles gives better hand precision to an extent.

It's clear that South Korea has a ways to go on the equality issue. Not only on the political side, but on the social side too if someone makes that excuse seriously. I've heard some really dumb statements about why there are way more men in e-sports than women (I think the most retarded I've heard was that "men have a natural hunting instinct"), and the idea that it would be because women "lack stamina" is one of them.

As for mean comments, I think most of everyone would prefer not to be called names. But this is the internet, and that shit isn't going away. I don't think being susceptible to bullying is a female trait either. If you're bullied and you don't feel you get support from your peers then it'll hurt more regardless of what the situation otherwise is. Of course, people react differently to abuse, but saying it's gender-specific rather than societal is wrong.

I'm sure most of everyone here would like to see women make it into the best leagues on their own ability, and I don't think anyone seriously believes that's impossible by any means.

Women do lack stamina. Look at every other sport and tell me in which one a woman holds a record over a man. Swimming, running, jumping, soccer, hockey, basketball. Men are clearly superior.
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
January 05 2011 12:45 GMT
#106
"In comparison, I don't think there is that big of a skill gap between Jaedong and the winner of a local PC bang tournament." (Jung So Lim)

Does she play starcraft?
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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-05 14:25:42
January 05 2011 14:23 GMT
#107
On January 05 2011 21:45 Ryo wrote:
"In comparison, I don't think there is that big of a skill gap between Jaedong and the winner of a local PC bang tournament." (Jung So Lim)

Does she play starcraft?


I read that and my eyes almost popped out of my head. o.O

+ Show Spoiler +
Maybe it's not her "stamina" and "voice" that makes her bad at casting...j/k
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FlopTurnReaver
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Switzerland1980 Posts
January 05 2011 16:15 GMT
#108
For the whole time reading this I was like "Mh, this Seo Ji-Soo is a real cutie, who might that be?"

When it hit me at around the middle of the text I knew why I had that feeling^^
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MageKirby
Profile Joined July 2009
United States535 Posts
January 05 2011 16:40 GMT
#109
On January 05 2011 21:45 Ryo wrote:
"In comparison, I don't think there is that big of a skill gap between Jaedong and the winner of a local PC bang tournament." (Jung So Lim)

Does she play starcraft?


Who the fk was playing in that local PC bang touney? Effort? lol

Srsly, I dont buy it.
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1660 Posts
January 05 2011 16:41 GMT
#110
On January 04 2011 14:59 lastkarrde wrote:
[image loading]
Kim Ga-Eul so Beautiful!


I like your sarcasm.
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DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
January 05 2011 17:17 GMT
#111
really nice read, thank you very much for translating.

i often read about the heavy drinking of the korean progamer (men in general), even in this interview it is mentioned several times. is there an article, a blog or something about this? it's like drinking is mentioned in a lot of interviews (Fomos Fruitdealer Interview for example), and the question about the drinking habits of koreans always comes to my mind.
KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
January 05 2011 17:24 GMT
#112
On January 05 2011 21:37 CanucksJC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2011 21:02 Dectilon wrote:
If you lack stamina, start going to the gym or something. Nine times out of ten fatigue from long periods of focus (like studying) can be averted by getting more oxygen to your brain. And stronger muscles gives better hand precision to an extent.

It's clear that South Korea has a ways to go on the equality issue. Not only on the political side, but on the social side too if someone makes that excuse seriously. I've heard some really dumb statements about why there are way more men in e-sports than women (I think the most retarded I've heard was that "men have a natural hunting instinct"), and the idea that it would be because women "lack stamina" is one of them.

As for mean comments, I think most of everyone would prefer not to be called names. But this is the internet, and that shit isn't going away. I don't think being susceptible to bullying is a female trait either. If you're bullied and you don't feel you get support from your peers then it'll hurt more regardless of what the situation otherwise is. Of course, people react differently to abuse, but saying it's gender-specific rather than societal is wrong.

I'm sure most of everyone here would like to see women make it into the best leagues on their own ability, and I don't think anyone seriously believes that's impossible by any means.

Women do lack stamina. Look at every other sport and tell me in which one a woman holds a record over a man. Swimming, running, jumping, soccer, hockey, basketball. Men are clearly superior.


uh, no. Men are superior in sports because we have more muscle mass and we don't have mammaries and ovaries, which in terms of physical activity are useless organs that throw off our center of gravity. It has nothing directly to do with stamina, although having those useless organs obviously puts more stress on your body, ie you get tired fast. Women can easily overcome this by simply working out a harder, but at the world class level men will always win.
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aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
January 05 2011 17:28 GMT
#113
Hmm... such a different perspective on women's issues. I wonder if females in europe/america encounter these feelings as well (i.e. feeling inadequate for certain jobs compared to men).

I think it's interesting that even men who are actually inadequate for a job often don't recognize that fact for themselves. For example, I had a boss who was really not fit to be management. He was a good chemist, but lacked the people skills and ability to communicate expectations and such clearly. But I doubt it ever crossed his mind that he had serious deficiencies.

I wonder how often the only difference between a man and a woman in terms of fitness for a particular job is that the man just has an inflated or unrealistic opinion of himself.
EviL.sc
Profile Joined November 2010
Portugal82 Posts
January 05 2011 17:53 GMT
#114
Great article and it gives those 99% male gamers what goes through their heads and all that.
Thanks a bunch for translating!
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Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
January 05 2011 19:05 GMT
#115
On January 06 2011 01:41 paulinepain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2011 14:59 lastkarrde wrote:
[image loading]
Kim Ga-Eul so Beautiful!


I like your sarcasm.


I like your lack of knowledge
[image loading]
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crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
January 05 2011 20:29 GMT
#116
Females are not very welcome in social settings when men are talking. Female can often invoke conflict and emotions in men that could set them up against another. Men are also very sensitive, our toes can easily be stepped on, and we remember it well.
But I think that a woman who has a family of her own can go well in mens social clubs, as she is married and have kids, she is no longer wanted by other men and will not set men up against each other.

Most important thing is to act down to earth, be curious and ask good questions. Woman that does this instead of portraying her insecurities of being a female is an interesting person to talk to.
Percutio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1672 Posts
January 05 2011 20:49 GMT
#117
That was possibly the longest interview I've read all the way through on this site.

Good work!
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Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
January 05 2011 21:11 GMT
#118
If there was a difference, sports players have far more skill than the normal person, but e-sports progamers don't have that big of a skill gap between the general public. As an example, if you compared the skills of Park Ji-Sung from Manchester United and some player from beer league, the skill gap is huge. In comparison, I don't think there is that big of a skill gap between Jaedong and the winner of a local PC bang tournament.

ewwwwwwwwww gross
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Weedk
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States507 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-05 22:44:51
January 05 2011 22:42 GMT
#119
On January 06 2011 06:11 Crunchums wrote:
Show nested quote +
If there was a difference, sports players have far more skill than the normal person, but e-sports progamers don't have that big of a skill gap between the general public. As an example, if you compared the skills of Park Ji-Sung from Manchester United and some player from beer league, the skill gap is huge. In comparison, I don't think there is that big of a skill gap between Jaedong and the winner of a local PC bang tournament.

ewwwwwwwwww gross


She obviously has never seen Jaedong play. I still remember the quote, "it was like playing a computer."

Edit:
nice article and the girls are all beautiful and soo-ra is so sexy and no I'm not a sexist just saying the facts.


I'm going to ruin this right here and now. Notice a resemblance she bears to a certain Korean Air OSL winner?
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
January 05 2011 23:45 GMT
#120
On January 06 2011 06:11 Crunchums wrote:
Show nested quote +
If there was a difference, sports players have far more skill than the normal person, but e-sports progamers don't have that big of a skill gap between the general public. As an example, if you compared the skills of Park Ji-Sung from Manchester United and some player from beer league, the skill gap is huge. In comparison, I don't think there is that big of a skill gap between Jaedong and the winner of a local PC bang tournament.

ewwwwwwwwww gross


YES!

WTF? I was reading the interviews and when she said that I was absolutely fucking stunned.... How ridiculous... Especially from HER.
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