• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:33
CEST 12:33
KST 19:33
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star5Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists14[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers11Maestros of the Game 2 announced32026 GSL Tour plans announced13Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid22
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool 2026 GSL Tour plans announced MaNa leaves Team Liquid Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding 2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 522 Flip My Base The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss Mutation # 520 Moving Fees
Brood War
General
Data needed BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro16 Group C [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro16 Group A
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
McBoner: A hockey love story 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Reappraising The Situation T…
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2122 users

[Trans] ESPORTS: It's not just for men - Page 6

Forum Index > Community News and Headlines
173 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 9 Next All
thehitman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1105 Posts
January 05 2011 10:46 GMT
#101
nice article and the girls are all beautiful and soo-ra is so sexy and no I'm not a sexist just saying the facts.
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
January 05 2011 11:33 GMT
#102
On January 05 2011 18:44 FindingPride wrote:
who is kang min?


(P)Nal_rA
Dectilon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden50 Posts
January 05 2011 12:02 GMT
#103
If you lack stamina, start going to the gym or something. Nine times out of ten fatigue from long periods of focus (like studying) can be averted by getting more oxygen to your brain. And stronger muscles gives better hand precision to an extent.

It's clear that South Korea has a ways to go on the equality issue. Not only on the political side, but on the social side too if someone makes that excuse seriously. I've heard some really dumb statements about why there are way more men in e-sports than women (I think the most retarded I've heard was that "men have a natural hunting instinct"), and the idea that it would be because women "lack stamina" is one of them.

As for mean comments, I think most of everyone would prefer not to be called names. But this is the internet, and that shit isn't going away. I don't think being susceptible to bullying is a female trait either. If you're bullied and you don't feel you get support from your peers then it'll hurt more regardless of what the situation otherwise is. Of course, people react differently to abuse, but saying it's gender-specific rather than societal is wrong.

I'm sure most of everyone here would like to see women make it into the best leagues on their own ability, and I don't think anyone seriously believes that's impossible by any means.
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
January 05 2011 12:15 GMT
#104
Good article. It's too bad not more women take interest in E-sports, and gaming in general.
I think female players could do VERY well, as I've heard (somewhere from the militay I think) that they deal with stressful situations much better than men, and dealing with stressful situations might be enough to get you into the GSL, if you're a good player to begin with. It seperates good from great I believe

I havn't heard much of the korean commentators, but being a female commentator in general must be very hard, as they imho tend to sound more irritating when yelling.. but then again I guess I'm just not a big fan of high pitched voices when watching a game of starcraft ^^
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
CanucksJC
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1241 Posts
January 05 2011 12:37 GMT
#105
On January 05 2011 21:02 Dectilon wrote:
If you lack stamina, start going to the gym or something. Nine times out of ten fatigue from long periods of focus (like studying) can be averted by getting more oxygen to your brain. And stronger muscles gives better hand precision to an extent.

It's clear that South Korea has a ways to go on the equality issue. Not only on the political side, but on the social side too if someone makes that excuse seriously. I've heard some really dumb statements about why there are way more men in e-sports than women (I think the most retarded I've heard was that "men have a natural hunting instinct"), and the idea that it would be because women "lack stamina" is one of them.

As for mean comments, I think most of everyone would prefer not to be called names. But this is the internet, and that shit isn't going away. I don't think being susceptible to bullying is a female trait either. If you're bullied and you don't feel you get support from your peers then it'll hurt more regardless of what the situation otherwise is. Of course, people react differently to abuse, but saying it's gender-specific rather than societal is wrong.

I'm sure most of everyone here would like to see women make it into the best leagues on their own ability, and I don't think anyone seriously believes that's impossible by any means.

Women do lack stamina. Look at every other sport and tell me in which one a woman holds a record over a man. Swimming, running, jumping, soccer, hockey, basketball. Men are clearly superior.
UBC StarCraft Club is official @ UBC Vancouver campus! Your first eSport community on campus. Welcomes players of all levels at UBC. Follow us on facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/group.php?gid=155630424470014 or IRC @ irc.rizon.net #ubcsc
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
January 05 2011 12:45 GMT
#106
"In comparison, I don't think there is that big of a skill gap between Jaedong and the winner of a local PC bang tournament." (Jung So Lim)

Does she play starcraft?
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-05 14:25:42
January 05 2011 14:23 GMT
#107
On January 05 2011 21:45 Ryo wrote:
"In comparison, I don't think there is that big of a skill gap between Jaedong and the winner of a local PC bang tournament." (Jung So Lim)

Does she play starcraft?


I read that and my eyes almost popped out of my head. o.O

+ Show Spoiler +
Maybe it's not her "stamina" and "voice" that makes her bad at casting...j/k
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
FlopTurnReaver
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Switzerland1980 Posts
January 05 2011 16:15 GMT
#108
For the whole time reading this I was like "Mh, this Seo Ji-Soo is a real cutie, who might that be?"

When it hit me at around the middle of the text I knew why I had that feeling^^
Check out @MapOfTheMonth on Twitter and under http://bit.ly/motmorg
MageKirby
Profile Joined July 2009
United States535 Posts
January 05 2011 16:40 GMT
#109
On January 05 2011 21:45 Ryo wrote:
"In comparison, I don't think there is that big of a skill gap between Jaedong and the winner of a local PC bang tournament." (Jung So Lim)

Does she play starcraft?


Who the fk was playing in that local PC bang touney? Effort? lol

Srsly, I dont buy it.
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1699 Posts
January 05 2011 16:41 GMT
#110
On January 04 2011 14:59 lastkarrde wrote:
[image loading]
Kim Ga-Eul so Beautiful!


I like your sarcasm.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
January 05 2011 17:17 GMT
#111
really nice read, thank you very much for translating.

i often read about the heavy drinking of the korean progamer (men in general), even in this interview it is mentioned several times. is there an article, a blog or something about this? it's like drinking is mentioned in a lot of interviews (Fomos Fruitdealer Interview for example), and the question about the drinking habits of koreans always comes to my mind.
KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
January 05 2011 17:24 GMT
#112
On January 05 2011 21:37 CanucksJC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2011 21:02 Dectilon wrote:
If you lack stamina, start going to the gym or something. Nine times out of ten fatigue from long periods of focus (like studying) can be averted by getting more oxygen to your brain. And stronger muscles gives better hand precision to an extent.

It's clear that South Korea has a ways to go on the equality issue. Not only on the political side, but on the social side too if someone makes that excuse seriously. I've heard some really dumb statements about why there are way more men in e-sports than women (I think the most retarded I've heard was that "men have a natural hunting instinct"), and the idea that it would be because women "lack stamina" is one of them.

As for mean comments, I think most of everyone would prefer not to be called names. But this is the internet, and that shit isn't going away. I don't think being susceptible to bullying is a female trait either. If you're bullied and you don't feel you get support from your peers then it'll hurt more regardless of what the situation otherwise is. Of course, people react differently to abuse, but saying it's gender-specific rather than societal is wrong.

I'm sure most of everyone here would like to see women make it into the best leagues on their own ability, and I don't think anyone seriously believes that's impossible by any means.

Women do lack stamina. Look at every other sport and tell me in which one a woman holds a record over a man. Swimming, running, jumping, soccer, hockey, basketball. Men are clearly superior.


uh, no. Men are superior in sports because we have more muscle mass and we don't have mammaries and ovaries, which in terms of physical activity are useless organs that throw off our center of gravity. It has nothing directly to do with stamina, although having those useless organs obviously puts more stress on your body, ie you get tired fast. Women can easily overcome this by simply working out a harder, but at the world class level men will always win.
In order to move forward, we must rid ourselves of that which holds us back. Check out my stream and give me tips! twitch.tv/intotheskyy
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
January 05 2011 17:28 GMT
#113
Hmm... such a different perspective on women's issues. I wonder if females in europe/america encounter these feelings as well (i.e. feeling inadequate for certain jobs compared to men).

I think it's interesting that even men who are actually inadequate for a job often don't recognize that fact for themselves. For example, I had a boss who was really not fit to be management. He was a good chemist, but lacked the people skills and ability to communicate expectations and such clearly. But I doubt it ever crossed his mind that he had serious deficiencies.

I wonder how often the only difference between a man and a woman in terms of fitness for a particular job is that the man just has an inflated or unrealistic opinion of himself.
EviL.sc
Profile Joined November 2010
Portugal82 Posts
January 05 2011 17:53 GMT
#114
Great article and it gives those 99% male gamers what goes through their heads and all that.
Thanks a bunch for translating!
"I left in love, in laughter, and in truth and wherever truth, love and laughter abide, I am there in spirit." - Bill Hicks
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
January 05 2011 19:05 GMT
#115
On January 06 2011 01:41 paulinepain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2011 14:59 lastkarrde wrote:
[image loading]
Kim Ga-Eul so Beautiful!


I like your sarcasm.


I like your lack of knowledge
[image loading]
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
January 05 2011 20:29 GMT
#116
Females are not very welcome in social settings when men are talking. Female can often invoke conflict and emotions in men that could set them up against another. Men are also very sensitive, our toes can easily be stepped on, and we remember it well.
But I think that a woman who has a family of her own can go well in mens social clubs, as she is married and have kids, she is no longer wanted by other men and will not set men up against each other.

Most important thing is to act down to earth, be curious and ask good questions. Woman that does this instead of portraying her insecurities of being a female is an interesting person to talk to.
Percutio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1672 Posts
January 05 2011 20:49 GMT
#117
That was possibly the longest interview I've read all the way through on this site.

Good work!
What does it matter how I loose it?
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
January 05 2011 21:11 GMT
#118
If there was a difference, sports players have far more skill than the normal person, but e-sports progamers don't have that big of a skill gap between the general public. As an example, if you compared the skills of Park Ji-Sung from Manchester United and some player from beer league, the skill gap is huge. In comparison, I don't think there is that big of a skill gap between Jaedong and the winner of a local PC bang tournament.

ewwwwwwwwww gross
brood war for life, brood war forever
Weedk
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States507 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-05 22:44:51
January 05 2011 22:42 GMT
#119
On January 06 2011 06:11 Crunchums wrote:
Show nested quote +
If there was a difference, sports players have far more skill than the normal person, but e-sports progamers don't have that big of a skill gap between the general public. As an example, if you compared the skills of Park Ji-Sung from Manchester United and some player from beer league, the skill gap is huge. In comparison, I don't think there is that big of a skill gap between Jaedong and the winner of a local PC bang tournament.

ewwwwwwwwww gross


She obviously has never seen Jaedong play. I still remember the quote, "it was like playing a computer."

Edit:
nice article and the girls are all beautiful and soo-ra is so sexy and no I'm not a sexist just saying the facts.


I'm going to ruin this right here and now. Notice a resemblance she bears to a certain Korean Air OSL winner?
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
January 05 2011 23:45 GMT
#120
On January 06 2011 06:11 Crunchums wrote:
Show nested quote +
If there was a difference, sports players have far more skill than the normal person, but e-sports progamers don't have that big of a skill gap between the general public. As an example, if you compared the skills of Park Ji-Sung from Manchester United and some player from beer league, the skill gap is huge. In comparison, I don't think there is that big of a skill gap between Jaedong and the winner of a local PC bang tournament.

ewwwwwwwwww gross


YES!

WTF? I was reading the interviews and when she said that I was absolutely fucking stunned.... How ridiculous... Especially from HER.
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 9 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Afreeca Starleague
10:00
Ro16 Group C
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
Afreeca ASL 19953
StarCastTV_EN630
Liquipedia
Replay Cast
09:00
SEL Doubles #1
CranKy Ducklings88
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 131
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 10418
Sea 7496
BeSt 2394
firebathero 890
EffOrt 730
Mini 444
Pusan 427
Stork 418
ZerO 316
actioN 293
[ Show more ]
Larva 205
Soulkey 205
Rush 184
Hyun 164
hero 129
ToSsGirL 110
Killer 87
Sharp 39
Backho 35
sSak 34
Barracks 28
Sexy 25
JulyZerg 22
NaDa 22
Shine 20
Soma 20
yabsab 18
ggaemo 18
SilentControl 15
Hm[arnc] 13
Terrorterran 12
Bale 10
GoRush 10
Noble 8
Dota 2
XaKoH 528
NeuroSwarm125
XcaliburYe91
ODPixel67
League of Legends
Reynor75
Counter-Strike
edward242
x6flipin157
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King61
Other Games
singsing1564
crisheroes252
Pyrionflax173
Livibee47
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream9003
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream4924
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 349
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 55
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade1081
Other Games
• WagamamaTV142
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
27m
Monday Night Weeklies
5h 27m
RSL Revival
15h 27m
GSL
21h 27m
Afreeca Starleague
23h 27m
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d
RSL Revival
1d 23h
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Escore
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
5 days
Universe Titan Cup
5 days
Rogue vs Percival
Ladder Legends
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
BSL
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
6 days
Ladder Legends
6 days
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W3
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.